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Title: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on July 30, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
[4]•Aragorn, Swordsman of the orc hunters [Gondor]
Companion, Man
strength 8
vitality 4
resistance 8
Hunter 1
Aragorn is twilight cost -1 while he is in your starting fellowship.
Add 2 burdens to play the fellowships next site.(limit once per turn)
Exert Aragorn twice (or once if you spot Legolas and Gimli) to make him strength +1 or Hunter 2
"Leave all that can be spared behind! We will press on by day and by dark."

I will be continuing this mini DC set. But I want to see what you think first.
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: ephen on July 30, 2009, 04:44:24 PM
Seems too good, you can start all 3 hunters and in some situations exert aragorn to make him strength +5.
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on July 30, 2009, 05:40:44 PM
Changed it to just strength +2 and Hunter 1
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on July 30, 2009, 05:50:43 PM
Completely OP with the [2] cost and further cost reduction. Also his second ability is overpowered as is. Perhaps this would be a better way of phrasing it:
Skirmish: Exert Aragorn to make Legolas or Gimli strength +2 (or +3 if you can spot both).



Please also read this post on how to format DCs so they can be read easier:

http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,131.0.html
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on July 31, 2009, 07:08:55 AM
Thanks a lot MR. Lurtzy. I changed some things and now it is not way OP IMO.
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Gil-Estel on July 31, 2009, 07:12:56 AM
He is too cheap, last thing we want is an other Aragorn that is played too much...sorry
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on July 31, 2009, 07:37:10 AM
OK I changed it. Thanks.
Now for the next card in the set:
[2]•Legolas, Bowman of the Orc Hunters [Elven]
Companion, Elf
strength 6
vitality 3
resistance 7
Hunter 1 Archer
Legolas is twilight cost -1 while in your starting fellowship and you can spot Aragorn.
Archery: exert Legolas make the fellowship archery total +1 ( or +2 if you spot Aragorn and Gimli)(limit once per phase).

see what you think of him. I think I will make it so you can start 2 of the 3 hunters get the last at a cost of 2 burdens.
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: ephen on July 31, 2009, 08:20:49 AM
Again this is OP. you can start legolas and aragorn and right away exert legolas wound a minion twice, and he still adds to the archery total.
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on July 31, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Yeah I will change it to make the fellowship archery total + 1 or 2
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on July 31, 2009, 03:13:25 PM
Ok now for Gimli. This will be fun.
[3] •Gimli, Axeman of the Orc Hunters [Dwarven]
Companion, Dwarf
Strength 6
vitality 4
resistance 7
Hunter 1 Damage +1( or 2 if you spot Legolas and Aragorn)
When you play Gimli heal 2 companions.
Exert Gimli twice to make him, Aragorn, and Legolas Hunter 1 and Damage +1 for each possession over 3 he bears.

I like the combo you can do with gorn legolas and gimli. It is probably a bit OP but see what you think.
I will be gone for a week or so, so don't expect me to post on here for a while.
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: DáinIronfoot on August 02, 2009, 06:32:36 PM
Quote from: Beregond25
[4]•Aragorn, Swordsman of the orc hunters [Gondor]
Companion, Man
strength 8
vitality 4
resistance 8
Hunter 1
Aragorn is twilight cost -1 while he is in your starting fellowship.
Add 2 burdens to play the fellowships next site.(limit once per turn)
Exert Aragorn twice (or once if you spot Legolas and Gimli) to make him strength +1 or Hunter 2
"Leave all that can be spared behind! We will press on by day and by dark."
I'd like the cost reduction more if it was "Aragorn is twilight cost -1 if you can spot a hunter (or -2 if that hunter is Legolas or Gimli). The skirmish ability seems a bit good with the hunter 2 part, but I guess it's okay. Maybe spot another hunter for that as well?

By the way, you need phases for your abilities. I would recommend fellowship for the site-playing one, and obviously skirmish for the second.

Quote from: Beregond25
[2]•Legolas, Bowman of the Orc Hunters [Elven]
Companion, Elf
strength 6
vitality 3
resistance 7
Hunter 1 Archer
Legolas is twilight cost -1 while in your starting fellowship and you can spot Aragorn.
Archery: exert Legolas make the fellowship archery total +1 ( or +2 if you spot Aragorn and Gimli)(limit once per phase).
I'm not a fan of the cost reduction here (and if you go with my recommendation for Aragorn's reduction, you don't need it anyway). I'd spot another hunter for the archery ability, but with that, it's probably okay.

Quote from: Beregond25
[3] •Gimli, Axeman of the Orc Hunters [Dwarven]
Companion, Dwarf
Strength 6
vitality 4
resistance 7
Hunter 1 Damage +1( or 2 if you spot Legolas and Aragorn)
When you play Gimli heal 2 companions.
Exert Gimli twice to make him, Aragorn, and Legolas Hunter 1 and Damage +1 for each possession over 3 he bears.
I'm always reluctant to change major stats of well-known characters like Gimli, and I don't see the need for it here. I'd drop his cost to [2] and his vitality to the normal 3.

I'd change him up like this:

[2]•Gimli, Axeman of the Orc Hunters [Dwarven]
Companion • Dwarf
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 7
Damage +1. Hunter 1.
When you play Gimli, you may heal 2 hunters.
Skirmish: Exert Gimli to make him, Aragorn, or Legolas gain hunter 1 (and damage +1 if that companion bears a weapon).

The original skirmish ability was interesting, but just too complicated. It's hard to even GET more than 3 possessions on Legolas and Gimli, so I wouldn't see it being used very much. This one is much more versatile while still capturing the flavor of what I think you were trying to do. :up:
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Beregond25 on August 10, 2009, 07:34:58 AM
Thanks a lot for your input. I will change some things sometime soon.
B25
Title: Re: Orc Hunters mini DC set
Post by: Thranduil on August 20, 2009, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: Beregond25
[4]•Aragorn, Swordsman of the orc hunters [Gondor]
Companion, Man
strength 8
vitality 4
resistance 8
Hunter 1
Aragorn is twilight cost -1 while he is in your starting fellowship.
Add 2 burdens to play the fellowships next site.(limit once per turn)
Exert Aragorn twice (or once if you spot Legolas and Gimli) to make him strength +1 or Hunter 2
"Leave all that can be spared behind! We will press on by day and by dark."
Just seems like he has too much text to me. Why does he need a -1 reduction? I would just get rid of it, or lose one of his other abilities - the ability to pump or control the site path alone makes for a good card.

Quote from: Beregond25
[2]•Legolas, Bowman of the Orc Hunters [Elven]
Companion, Elf
strength 6
vitality 3
resistance 7
Hunter 1 Archer
Legolas is twilight cost -1 while in your starting fellowship and you can spot Aragorn.
Archery: exert Legolas make the fellowship archery total +1 ( or +2 if you spot Aragorn and Gimli)(limit once per phase).
Again not a fan of the cost reduction, or the hunter bonus (but then my hatred of hunter bonuses is well known, right DI? ;) ).

Quote from: DáinIronfoot
Quote from: Beregond25
[3] •Gimli, Axeman of the Orc Hunters [Dwarven]
Companion, Dwarf
Strength 6
vitality 4
resistance 7
Hunter 1 Damage +1( or 2 if you spot Legolas and Aragorn)
When you play Gimli heal 2 companions.
Exert Gimli twice to make him, Aragorn, and Legolas Hunter 1 and Damage +1 for each possession over 3 he bears.
I'm always reluctant to change major stats of well-known characters like Gimli, and I don't see the need for it here. I'd drop his cost to [2] and his vitality to the normal 3.

I'd change him up like this:

[2]•Gimli, Axeman of the Orc Hunters [Dwarven]
Companion • Dwarf
Strength 6
Vitality 3
Resistance 7
Damage +1. Hunter 1.
When you play Gimli, you may heal 2 hunters.
Skirmish: Exert Gimli to make him, Aragorn, or Legolas gain hunter 1 (and damage +1 if that companion bears a weapon).
I am very interested by your "When you play..." text. Perhaps, instead of those cost reductions, your other hunters could have similar texts? I would put the healing on Legolas or Aragorn, and give Gimli drawing cards, perhaps Legolas getting an event back? Very interesting potential there.

Thranduil