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Title: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 07, 2009, 07:00:58 AM
Okay, question about this card:

Say I have Durin, Proud and Able, and Frodo at Fords of Isen.

The opponent lays down three small orcs, then a cave troll and a balrog.

Okay, so I play Disquiet of our people to make Durin defender plus 2. I then assign the orcs to him. The balrog and cave troll go to Frodo. After winning Durins skirmish (He's damage plus 9 and the orcs are 2 vitality), I play More Yet to Come. Here's the question. Do I get to reassign: 8 wounds?  24 wounds? or 2 wounds? Anyone know?
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: TheJord on December 07, 2009, 07:11:58 AM
The Balrog and the Cave Troll would need to go first, as More Yet to Come targets minions who are not assigned. And you would get to assign 8 wounds.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 07, 2009, 07:17:50 AM
Right. My thought was 8 wounds since it says *A* minion.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: Elessar's Socks on December 07, 2009, 07:19:16 AM
Poor Frodo...
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 07, 2009, 07:25:09 AM
Yeah...but he has The One Ring the Great ring + Bounder + Sting, so he's fine. :)
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: TheJord on December 07, 2009, 07:53:57 AM
The way it works is, Durin wins, so each Orc takes a wound, then his damage bonus. +1 is enough to kill them, so the remaining +8 are applied to MYtC
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: daisukeman on December 07, 2009, 09:04:12 AM
Ok, I have to ask..
Does this count when overwhelming? Or does kill imply only he minion dies in skirmish by wounds...
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 07, 2009, 09:06:03 AM
Another good question...

My guess: He won a skirmish, and no wounds were applied, so all of them can be assigned?
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: ket_the_jet on December 07, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
sharkey is correct in his assumption. A Dwarf still kills a minion. No wounds were applied. You may apply the remaining wounds to minions not assigned to skirmishes. Take that, Goblin Scrabbler!
-wtk
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: Elgar on December 07, 2009, 12:41:07 PM
sharkey is correct in his assumption. A Dwarf still kills a minion. No wounds were applied. You may apply the remaining wounds to minions not assigned to skirmishes. Take that, Goblin Scrabbler!
-wtk

...remaining wounds caused by damage bonuses...

ie.  A dwarf with damage +2 overwhelms a minion, 2 wounds (not 3) can be assigned via more yet to come.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 07, 2009, 02:29:58 PM
Nah, I think I'm right on that- "If a Dwarf kills a minion in a skirmish and that minion did not take all wounds caused by that Dwarf's damage bonus, assign those remaining wounds to minions not assigned to a skirmish. " I think my logic still works.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: Not a Zombie on December 07, 2009, 03:44:53 PM
I always wondered why southron scout was printed. I would take goblin runner over it any day
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: Kralik on December 07, 2009, 06:10:25 PM
I always wondered why southron scout was printed. I would take goblin runner over it any day

But can Goblin Runner ride a MUMAK? Huh? HUH?!

I think that settles it.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 07, 2009, 07:18:14 PM
Overwhelming does not cause wounds. It sends characters straight to the dead pile. Straight from the CRD.
-wtk

Yeah, so he didn't take all the wounds caused by that dwarve's damage bonus.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: Elessar's Socks on December 07, 2009, 08:29:09 PM
I think Elgar is cautioning not to include the "default" wound with MYTC, as may have been implied earlier. The default wound does not come from a damage bonus.
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: Elgar on December 08, 2009, 07:22:53 AM
I think Elgar is cautioning not to include the "default" wound with MYTC, as may have been implied earlier. The default wound does not come from a damage bonus.

Bingo :)
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 08, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
So it depends on whether it means, "Subtract the minion's vitality from the wounds that the dwarf caused in the skirmish," or "If the minion did not take all wounds that the dwarf could have caused". I have no idea. I'll lean towards the one I like better. :)
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: ket_the_jet on December 08, 2009, 08:33:05 AM
If you have a Dwarf that was damage +4, he would cause five wounds; however, if that same Dwarf overwhelms a minion, he causes no wounds. More Yet To Come allows you to assign the four wounds from the damage bonus, not five wounds which are all the wounds the minion could have taken if not overwhelmed.
-wtk
Title: Re: More yet to come
Post by: sharkey on December 08, 2009, 07:00:00 PM
Right! Thanks for pointing that out too!