The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Lothlórien => Expanded => Topic started by: Micah247 on May 07, 2008, 07:08:11 AM
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Read an article on the Pippin Engine a while back, and wanted to try it out. (Please keep in mind I do not have access to cards after set 13 bloodlines (http://lotrtcgdb.com/sets/set13.html))
This is Expanded Format.
Free Peoples (31)
[Ring] and Bearer
Gimli, Bearer of Grudges (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR09004.html)
The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04001.html)
Companions (1)
Pippin, Hobbit of Some Intelligence (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR12127.html) (starting)
Possessions (7)
Gimlis Battle Axe (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01014.html)
Hand Axe (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR02010.html)
Dwarven Bracers (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR12005.html)
Dwarven Armor (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01008.html)
Ring of Fury (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR09007.html)
Arod, Rohirrim Steed (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR13001.html)
Gimlis Helm (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01015.html)
Conditions (10)
Endurance of Dwarves (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR02004.html)
O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR02108.html)
2x Proud and Able (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR12012.html)
4x Home and Hearth (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR12122.html)
2x Birthday Present (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR10104.html)
Allies/Followers (3)
2x Daddy Twofoot, Next-door Neighbor (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR13144.html)
Thrarin, Dwarven Smith (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01027.html)
Events (10)
4x Honed (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR08006.html)
4x Make Haste (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR10109.html)
2x Power According to His Stature (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01308.html)
sites
Barazinbar (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR11229.html)
Trollshaw Forest (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR11260.html)
Some Dwellings
Shadow
I used Initiative Southrons. Raider Bow, Red Wrath and Whirling Strike FTW
Strategy
Bid 1, go first if possible. Get Gimlis Battle Axe (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01014.html), use Make haste (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR10109.html) to get rid of minions. Play Pippin to remove burdens and heal. Use Birthday Present (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR10104.html) or Daddy Twofoot (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR13144.html) to get Make Haste (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR10109.html) back. Play all conditions and equipment ASAP. PATHS (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01308.html) for killing swarm minions. Gimli when set up needs 36 strength to overwhelm. Honed (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR08006.html) adds 11 Strength when set up.
Concerns
Based on playtest, I think I am going to remove Endurance of Dwarves for another PAtHS, because it worked so well.
***edited to show playtest deck***
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My major concern is this decks inability to double. All my decks have a component in them that allows a run, and I dont think Baruk-khazad is good enough.
More Proud and Able, everyone saves there condition discarding for it in any [Dwarven] deck.
When set up though with HaH, use Pippin to heal and use a Nelya deck to bring back Barazinbar and pull all your possessions
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I <3 Solo Gimli. My fave solo deck.
RoR def in this deck. AtaR + bad draw = instant auto-corrupt, esp if the guy happens to be fierce.
Drop Endurance of Dwarves, O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! and Baruk Khazad for some BRC and Proud and Able. I like PATHS, though, maybe 1 more, to nab with Daddy Twofoot in case you draw a Make Haste and don't need to nab. Also, Thrarin, Dwarven Smith is a MUST HAVE! for the deck.
I like Daddy Twofoot over Birthday Present, more reliable. I'm not sure...does Community Living require 1 or 2 hobbits?
Now, the fundamental prob with the deck is that it NEEDS a shadow that can kill. Thus, you MUST have an absolutely killer shadow. Maybe [Man] Archery? Especially with the sites that punish big fellowships, Anduin Banks, City Gates, etc.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the daddy two-foot with a comp bearing it going to hand discards daddy two-foot correct. If so Maybe the Birthday Presentis a better choice here. I was always under the impression that when a companion or minion for that matter goes back to it's players hand cards on the character were discarded. If that is the case why keep wasting daddy two-foot if you can use the condition annd maybe a few scourings to protect it for a bit.
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You can put Daddy-twofoot onto Gimli so you need not lose it
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Doh I guess I was thinking it had to go on a shire comp to retrieve a card. Stupid me away from the game for a short time and start forgetting what the cards do.
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So I didn't have time to make a shadow side, but wanted to play test it, so I pairedc it with a variation of the initiative southrons that I had posted on CC. I am fully aware this was not an ideal match, but that is what I had sitting around. My opponent used noble leaders with 2 site dundland. I went first played barbinzar got Gimli's battle axe, but did not draw make haste. This could have been an issue as I had to fight 2 minions at site 2. I thought Pippin was toast, but he assigned the 2nd to the ring-bearer. PAtHS FTW! I actually ran 2 daddy twofoot, and 2 Birthday Present. I got both of those out turn 2 and continually used PAtHS to kill what got through Make Haste. I got some lucky draws with Red Wrath and Whirling Strike and killed Aragorn at site 3 and Faramir at 4. This allowed me to stay ahead as he could no longer double, and also clogged his hand more as there cards were no longer usable. I ran out of cards at site 7, so I had to double to nine and thanks to my addition of Thrarin, dwarven smith, and more PAtHS recursion, I was able to accomplish.
Edited original post to show what I used.