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Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: putridbreath on January 13, 2010, 10:31:42 AM
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SO what's the deal with the Realms of the Elf Lords set? It is incredibly difficult to find anywhere and other forum posts allude to its nonexistence in the present. What happened? I was lucky enough to buy many packs of it back in the olden days, but booster boxes now seem nowhere to be found...
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underprinting... jsut like siege of gondor, RoS and T&D
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It was an okay expansion. Not great, or anything.
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It was an okay expansion. Not great, or anything.
I thought it was a great expansion at the time. Saruman, Long-knives, Boromir, Palantir, to name a few.
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Yeah, at the time. But I would pay for Fellowship or Mines any day, but then again, I did not have a Gondor or Elven or Uruk deck.
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I played a dwarven/sauron deck, as usual, so it wasn't too exciting (Book of Mazarbul was good though)
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Heir to the white city
lady of the golden wood
trust me as you once did
Narya
gates of the dead city
bill the pony
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RotEL was much better than MoM.
Really, hard to find? That stinks, as I used to have a couple dozen boxes...
Should have saved them for now. Then again, I got them at a discount price of $50 each, which is probably still more than they are worth today.
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Wow, I can't believe I forgot Bill the Pony, Aragorn HTTWC, Elrond, Shire Countryside, etc. ROTEL really was awesome. And still is.
Thanks guys.
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I enjoyed Trust Me As You Once Did and Saruman, Servent of the Secret Eye
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plus frying pan, fireworks and frodos pipe made pipe decks more playable... i thought the funniest cards were hide and seek + seek and hide... they will never stop hunting you is one of my favorite nazzie pictures... citadel of minas tirith and might of numenor we must go warily which was the best common until errata... and it hade dangerous gamble, which while a useless card was my first foil :)
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Back before shadows, ROTEL was among the best sets on the market.
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Back before shadows, ROTEL was among the best sets on the market.
ROTEL is so good that a lot of cards from this set got X-listed.
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I really like the set, as well. But then again sets 1-10 are all pretty much spot on. I think those movie block sets will appreciate slowly but surely.
I wish I had the time right now to play FotR league. I hope it is still around in February...
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Back before shadows, ROTEL was among the best sets on the market.
ROTEL is so good that a lot of cards from this set got X-listed.
I know, isn't it great!
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Movie Block X-list
1R40 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1R45 Galadriel, Lady of Light
1R80 Ottar, Man of Laketown
1U108 No Stranger to the Shadows
1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers
1R195 Relics of Moria
1U234 Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur
1C248 Forces of Mordor
1R313 Sting
2R32 Flaming Brand
3R38 Aragorn, Heir to the White City
3R42 Horn of Boromir
3R67 The Palantir of Orthanc
3R68 Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
3U106 Bill the Pony
3C108 Frying Pan
7U49 Steadfast Champion
7C96 Gondorian Captain
8C1 Aggression
10U2 Memories of Darkness
10C91 Mordor Fiend
ROTEL is just a small set and it represents more than 1/4 of the movie block x-list.
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Goes to show how underpowered Towers block (or [Rohan]) is
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Realm of the Elf Lords is unavailable but sets 1 and 2 can still be found in one form or another. There does not appear to be an easy entry point for new players other than starter decks and this does not teach them much about deck design. RotEL is valuable not because it is the best set, but because it is the missing link in a simple format (FoTR block) that new players could start playing the game.
New players cannot access all cards (except on GCCG) and this creates an unfair playing situation. This leads to negative playing experiences if experienced players bring out cards they can't access and beat down on them.
So in short - some form of access to RotEL would assist greatly in creating a format for newbies to play the game.
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Seems like Wild Things Games sells a complete ROTEL set every week. Here is the link to this week's.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOTR-CCG-The-Realms-of-the-Elf-Lords-Set-No-Ps_W0QQitemZ390141732488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad6426688#ht_2759wt_941
Doesn't seem that hard to find...
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That's good news ghhhk - i should of checked - the last time i looked i couldn't find one for sale and i used to buy from wild-thing games all the time.
Players only need to about $150-200 over a month to get a complete playset - thats reasonable i guess.
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WTG is absolutely great. That is where I got most of my sets from, too. However, they do not list the sets every week. They take a break sometimes from listing particular sets as auctions.
They have been selling sets for years now. Their supply has to dry up at some point...
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Movie Block X-list
3R38 Aragorn, Heir to the White City
3R42 Horn of Boromir
3R67 The Palantir of Orthanc
3R68 Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
3U106 Bill the Pony
3C108 Frying Pan
LMAO I bought a box of ROTEL (USD$ 70) and I got all those X-listed cards!
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Just thinking about it - whether RotEL is available this week or not is not necessarily a valid counter argument. It remains an out-of-print set that is hard to obtain, and it is part of a simple introductory format for new players. Additionally, postage to Australia is almost more than the set itself.
It is important to remember that LOTR is a global game. Access to cards that are out of print is hard. Some players are not willing to use international Ebay, and will be less likely to buy when they see the high postage costs. (Two years ago i bought boxes of LOTR from wild thing games for $12 USD international postage - now it is more than that for a set - unless US postal system has had a steep increase in price then something is not right here).
All that said - with RotEL out of print along with other sets - it is a big challenge to create a level playing field for new players - and this is a barrier for a revival of the game. Printing proxies from this set to play Fellowship of the Ring block would go along way to opening up the game to new players without the exclusive use of GCCG.
I feel trapped at my end - i don't have cards to hand out for free - but i have access to a large card playing community. A PC has made Star Trek bigger now than it ever was when Decipher made it - with the right actions from a PC perhaps we can achieve the same.
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Movie Block X-list
1R40 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1R45 Galadriel, Lady of Light
1R80 Ottar, Man of Laketown
1U108 No Stranger to the Shadows
1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers
1R195 Relics of Moria
1U234 Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur
1C248 Forces of Mordor
1R313 Sting
2R32 Flaming Brand
3R38 Aragorn, Heir to the White City
3R42 Horn of Boromir
3R67 The Palantir of Orthanc
3R68 Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
3U106 Bill the Pony
3C108 Frying Pan
7U49 Steadfast Champion
7C96 Gondorian Captain
8C1 Aggression
10U2 Memories of Darkness
10C91 Mordor Fiend
ROTEL is just a small set and it represents more than 1/4 of the movie block x-list.
Which also means that the other set's were more balanced.
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Movie Block X-list
1R40 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1R45 Galadriel, Lady of Light
1R80 Ottar, Man of Laketown
1U108 No Stranger to the Shadows
1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers
1R195 Relics of Moria
1U234 Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur
1C248 Forces of Mordor
1R313 Sting
2R32 Flaming Brand
3R38 Aragorn, Heir to the White City
3R42 Horn of Boromir
3R67 The Palantir of Orthanc
3R68 Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
3U106 Bill the Pony
3C108 Frying Pan
7U49 Steadfast Champion
7C96 Gondorian Captain
8C1 Aggression
10U2 Memories of Darkness
10C91 Mordor Fiend
ROTEL is just a small set and it represents more than 1/4 of the movie block x-list.
Which also means that the other set's were more balanced.
which means that if you read between the lines, RotEL was like a glimpse of TH, RoS and T&D, overpowered, under printed so that any cards from that set are valuable and many cards that needed errata and/or X-ing
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Movie Block X-list
1R40 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1R45 Galadriel, Lady of Light
1R80 Ottar, Man of Laketown
1U108 No Stranger to the Shadows
1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers
1R195 Relics of Moria
1U234 Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur
1C248 Forces of Mordor
1R313 Sting
2R32 Flaming Brand
3R38 Aragorn, Heir to the White City
3R42 Horn of Boromir
3R67 The Palantir of Orthanc
3R68 Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
3U106 Bill the Pony
3C108 Frying Pan
7U49 Steadfast Champion
7C96 Gondorian Captain
8C1 Aggression
10U2 Memories of Darkness
10C91 Mordor Fiend
ROTEL is just a small set and it represents more than 1/4 of the movie block x-list.
Which also means that the other set's were more balanced.
which means that if you read between the lines, RotEL was like a glimpse of TH, RoS and T&D, overpowered, under printed so that any cards from that set are valuable and many cards that needed errata and/or X-ing
I agree lego, but you must also see the following point:
FotR was the first expansion and pretty unbalanced, but this actually is normal in TCGs like Raigeki in Yu-Gi-Oh and Black Lotus in Mtg. MoM was the 2nd set and underpowered and as said before, they still didn't have the right balance with RotEL. So, the over-and underpowering of cards in the first sets is usual, but the underprinting...I don't know...
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I agree lego, but you must also see the following point:
FotR was the first expansion and pretty unbalanced, but this actually is normal in TCGs like Raigeki in Yu-Gi-Oh and Black Lotus in Mtg. MoM was the 2nd set and underpowered and as said before, they still didn't have the right balance with RotEL. So, the over-and underpowering of cards in the first sets is usual, but the underprinting...I don't know...
You really think FOTS was unballanced?
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1R40 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1R45 Galadriel, Lady of Light
1R80 Ottar, Man of Laketown
1U108 No Stranger to the Shadows
1R139 Savagery to Match Their Numbers
1R195 Relics of Moria
1U234 Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur
1C248 Forces of Mordor
1R313 Sting
don't understand me wrong, I love FotR Block playing, but nearly half of the x-List is from FotR!