The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Lothlórien => Expanded => Topic started by: St. Grimmin on March 05, 2010, 04:47:37 PM
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I was making a deck that used only the witch-king for minions. Was wondering what ideas anyone had for it, all input is appreciated thanks :mrgreen:
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That means you have only four minions in your deck?!
Since you are posting in Expanded, you can't expect to see anything happen with your Shadow because of IB. And... 4 out of 30. :-S
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I was making a deck that used only the witch-king for minions. Was wondering what ideas anyone had for it, all input is appreciated thanks :mrgreen:
I'm not sure if you understand this rule correctly: You cannot have more than 4 copies of any cards in your deck. Even if there are subtitles, uniques minions and characters can only appear 4 times in the deck.
As Kralik said, there will only be 4 minions in your deck. I'm not sure this is going to work well. You cannot even use Evil-Smelling Fens due to Gollum being a minion.
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Load up the deck with the pale blade, the witch-king's fell beast and... i forgot. i made a deck like that once. it didn't work out too well.
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Witch-King only? Impossible. With Gollum Splash and Paralyzer Shelob? Might maybe work, but you'll play 4 copies of Black Lord and also Gollum, DaD, CbtR, Sweeter Meats, maybe Incited and so on...
EDIT: And looooots of cycling indeed
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We Shall Meet Again Soon. Preparations + Rest By Blind Night (don't know standard well enough to know if there is a replacement card for RBBN). These are two ways to get more than four uses out of your witch king. That is assuming you are able to get him in hand early. If he doesn't show up for a while....well....
You probably need a fellowship that can double frequently and hope the witch king can be scarry enough to stop him from doing so.
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You can make a deck with the Witchking as your main minion, for example Lord of the Nazgul, make him fierce, make him strong, make him high on vitality etc. Play a lot of wound prevention.....stuff like that. But still, it is tricky.
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Might as well run Black Lord and go down in style. Each time your opponent plays a companion, shove the card in front of his nose and go "Behold, the Witch-king!" or "Behold, a FOIL Witch-king!" (If your opponent is playing solo Smeagol or something, just leave in a huff.)
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We Shall Meet Again Soon. Preparations + Rest By Blind Night (don't know standard well enough to know if there is a replacement card for RBBN). These are two ways to get more than four uses out of your witch king. That is assuming you are able to get him in hand early. If he doesn't show up for a while....well....
You probably need a fellowship that can double frequently and hope the witch king can be scarry enough to stop him from doing so.
I forgot about these cards. Also, maybe that The Witch-King, Morgul King would be the best WK for this deck as it allows you to grab another copy of your WK from discard pile when you play one.
4x A Shadow Rises could technically be used.
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I have only played it with my friends but so far it has not lost. using 2 black lords and two witch-king CoA. ring of terrors to return him to hand, and final account to pull him back .4 drawn to its power with pale blade make sure they feel it when I kill their weak off with sense of obligation and shadowy mount
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Did you know that Final Account is X-ed in Expanded?
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no I didn't. I mainly just play with friends so we dont always know what is on the x-list, but they will be happy to know that cause they hate that card lol
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Use all the nazzie rings you can get your hands on. They all have the ability to return your minion to your hand.
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So, could you post your Deck?
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Even if you play Wikkie every turn, I still see it as problematic since one minion at a time is very easy to kill or dispose of. What if your opponent plays massive archery? Direct Freeps wounding and Eowyn LoI? Ithilien Blade? I'm skeptical that it would work vs. even the simplest Freeps strategies.
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My deck used more than just the witch king, but, he was the star player. Slightly modified, it would look like this:
Witch-king 8R84 x4
pale blade x4 (pick "witch" ever fancies you.) preferrably the original (1R221)
witch-kings fell beast x4 (that's double fierce!) 12U184
Ring of Terror
Ring of Ire
Ring of Asperity
Ring of Rancor
all blades perish x4
Not easily destroyed x3 (you could use the twilight one and use the twilight witch king instead.)
unending life x3
there came a cry x4
Something like this may maximize your witch-king occurances. As far as the rings go, use any combination you want. I just entered all the ones I could remember so you didn't have to go searching for them.
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How about Saruman, SoS (a follower, not a minion), maybe with Men Will Fall for the overwhelm? The twilight shouldn't be prohibitive if you're only playing 1 minion.
Also, while it's probably more trouble then it's worth, you could use Throne of Isengard so that if the Witch-king is killed while bearing Saruman, he becomes fierce when you play Saruman back.
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would love to get my hands on that saurman but I don't have one
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here is what i have been working with, but still modifying it
witch-king CoA x2
witch-king BL x2
pale blade x3
drawn to its power x4
ring of ire x2
ring of terror x2
unending life x2
the wich-kings beast x2
shadowy mount x2
sense of obligation x2
unimpeded x3
they feel the precious x2
surrounded by wraiths x1
lingering shadow x1
still working on it, thinking of maybe adding lemenya ET for threat production but then its not WK only.
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Let me get this straight...you don't even use a Witch-King that is fierce?!
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Ha Ha, oops. I meant 7R221
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oh come on ket, it was only an idea. no one said it would be an earth shattering new loop deck. kudos for trying grimmin :gp: ba-ding
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[Gondor] Wraiths won't probably stand because of The Pale Blade.
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Why would the Bilbo RB beat the WK? I think Cirdan would also be a major threat.
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I'd suggest going hardcore corruption with serious healing/wound prevention and a Lingering Shadow + Dark Fell About Him + Gates of the Dead City combo; a 4-vitality companion can transform 3 wounds into 6 burdens and 6-24 exertions. Throw in a few copies of Blade Tip to help those exerted companions die. Also use the damage bonus from Dark Whispers to trigger Drawn to Its Power. The Pale Blade, SoF could also help. Make sure to use all that extra twilight you get from only ever playing one minion. Of course, massive condition discard (like [gandalf]) or burden removal will destroy you, but that goes without saying (one of the perils of playing an unusual deck like this).
Cut Surrounded by Wraiths. Once they see you're only playing one minion, anyone but choke decks (who play few companions) won't hesitate to add the extra twilight.
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You should add A Shadow Rises x4. You could also put 1 copy of The Number Must be Few vs Ents because they won't care much about 1 minion.
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some good ideas for me to try, I always like trying to do something differant :mrgreen:
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And you should, paths seldom trodden are worth the effert even when you fail hard :D
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And you should, paths seldom trodden are worth the effert even when you fail hard :D
Paths Seldom Trodden FOIL, that would be cool
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And you should, paths seldom trodden are worth the effert even when you fail hard :D
The auto-linker has given birth to a weird form of puns...
Oh well, Never mind.
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I'd suggest going hardcore corruption with serious healing/wound prevention and a Lingering Shadow + Dark Fell About Him + Gates of the Dead City combo; a 4-vitality companion can transform 3 wounds into 6 burdens and 6-24 exertions. Throw in a few copies of Blade Tip to help those exerted companions die. Also use the damage bonus from Dark Whispers to trigger Drawn to Its Power. The Pale Blade, SoF could also help. Make sure to use all that extra twilight you get from only ever playing one minion. Of course, massive condition discard (like [gandalf]) or burden removal will destroy you, but that goes without saying (one of the perils of playing an unusual deck like this).
Cut Surrounded by Wraiths. Once they see you're only playing one minion, anyone but choke decks (who play few companions) won't hesitate to add the extra twilight.
I'd suggest going hardcore corruption with serious healing/wound prevention and a Lingering Shadow + Dark Fell About Him + Gates of the Dead City combo; a 4-vitality companion can transform 3 wounds into 6 burdens and 6-24 exertions. Throw in a few copies of Blade Tip to help those exerted companions die. Also use the damage bonus from Dark Whispers to trigger Drawn to Its Power. The Pale Blade, SoF could also help. Make sure to use all that extra twilight you get from only ever playing one minion. Of course, massive condition discard (like [gandalf]) or burden removal will destroy you, but that goes without saying (one of the perils of playing an unusual deck like this).
Cut Surrounded by Wraiths. Once they see you're only playing one minion, anyone but choke decks (who play few companions) won't hesitate to add the extra twilight.
If you used The witch-king, Lord of the Nazgul with this, and put surrounded by wraiths back in (for the extra twilight), along with forest sites, and Dark Approach. You could use His Terrible Servants to avoid direct wounding. Most wounding decks also exert companions (Aragorn's bow ELoI, and Greenleaf). so lingering shadow makes them pay if they want to re-use their stuff.