The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Lothlórien => Movie => Topic started by: Marcoliboar on March 07, 2010, 03:15:29 PM
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Ring-bearer 10P121 • Frodo, Resolute Hobbit
The One Ring 7R2 • The One Ring, Such a Weight to Carry
Adventure Deck
1 7U330 Edoras Hall (playing a LOT of possessions)
2 7U336 Rohirrim Camp
3 7U339 Hall of the Kings (draw cards)
4 7U343 Pelennor Plain (plains to use 7R233)
5 7U345 Pelennor Flat (plains to use 7R233)
6 7U348 Minas Tirith Fourth Circle
7 8U120 Osgiliath Channel
8 10U120 Watchers of Cirith Ungol
9 7U361 Haunted Pass
Free Peoples Draw Deck (30)
1x 8R15 • Gandalf, Leader of Men (start)
4x 8R20 Saved From the Fire
1x 0P17 • Éowyn, Lady of Rohan (valiant and keeping my big fello save from enquea)
1x 0P49 • Éomer, Keeper of Oaths (pulling possessions)
1x 5R82 • Gamling, Warrior of Rohan
1x 6C95 • Hrethel, Rider of Rohan
1x 7U224 • Elfhelm, Marshal of Rohan (start) (valiant for Simbelmynë)
1x 7R233 • Grimbold, Marshal of Rohan (ditching cards and site replace)
1x 8R92 • Théoden, Tall and Proud (burn to get another companion out)
3x 4C288 Rider's Spear
4x 5R89 Rohirrim Helm (cancel skirmishes)
1x 0P33 • Firefoot
1x 4U263 • Brego
1x 4C287 Rider's Mount
4x 5C88 Rohirrim Bow
4x 4R289 Simbelmynë
Shadow Draw Deck (30)
4x 1U178 Goblin Runner
4x 1U181 Goblin Sneak
2x 1C185 Goblin Warrior (if gimli is the ringberer conditions can be pain in the a**)
2x 1C191 Moria Scout (2 vita and free if elves)
2x 2C64 Goblin Scrabbler (discarding Tale of Gil-Gald and Splendor of Their Banners)
2x 1R183 Goblin Swarms
4x Cirith Ungol Sentinel (instead of 4xUruk Savage)
4x Cirith Ungol Sentry (instead of 4x Uruk Spy)
2x Grond, Hammer of the Underworld (instead of 2xGoblin Backstabber)
4x 3U53 Hate and Anger
Fellowship strategy
In short,bid two,go first, empty your draw deck whit SFtF, Simbelmynë and • Éomer, Keeper of Oaths, and then try to survive long enough to make a shadow kill.
In long, if you dont draw SFtF, muligan, if that dosen't help, your f**** up. That why im starting with • Elfhelm, Marshal of Rohanm, cuz he is Valiant and i can use Simbelmynë to play Eomer to get at least some cards out.
Now, if you do get SFtF, take • Éowyn, Lady of Rohan and 2x Simbelmynë, then play • Éomer, Keeper of Oaths and • Théoden, Tall and Proud. Play all of your fello cards (but keep an eye for initiative ;) ) and move only ONCE.
Next turn if you get another SFtF burn • Théoden, Tall and Proud and get • Grimbold, Marshal of Rohan, remaning Simbelmynë and compaions or possesions. And again, move only once. If you are stuck up with cards you can not play get rid of it with • Grimbold, Marshal of Rohan if you have a plains site of that number.(can i do this more than once?)
So you are just trying to get all fello cards out and survive in the proces :)
Shadow strategy
In short, when you have almost no fello cards in your deck, start your swarm. Play an uruk and orc then use Hate and Anger to draw more minios or another Hate and Anger and swarm the ringberer.
In long, at first(second) site, play a minon or two just to cycle your deck and increase the chance of geting another SFtF or Simbelmynë.
Keep at least one uruk and one orc, and of course Hate and Anger. Discard a any fello card when you reconcile, except SFtF or Simbelmynë.
At site 3, if you have enough twilight and a good draw you can start your swarm, if not, repeat what you did at site 2. Or if you draw Goblin Swarms try to get some minions there.
At site 4, you should have a good hand, that is, at least 6 minions (and one of them is uruk) and 1 Hate and Anger. Play your minions, use Hate and Anger to draw more minions and so on.
If you dont kill at site 4, try on site 5, if not, and you have some cards left in the deck, try at 6. If you dont kill by then, well, you lose :)
And ALWAYS use Goblin Sneak ability, the best thing to do i to put another Goblin Sneak beneath your draw deck, and then if you have 2x Hate and Anger, you can draw Sneaks, put some minions beneath, and then draw them ;)
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So comments, suggestions?
This deck has a 7-2 win / lose ratio. Loses ware coz, one time, a big fello, bad draw (no SFtF at first hand) and i was druk (it was 03:00 AM sat/sun) and second time just a big fello and a bad draw. :)
Its MAIN problem is a BAD draw, that is if you dont get SFtF in first hand, and big fellowships that are set up fast.
Edit: added 4x Cirith Ungol Sentry and 4x Cirith Ungol Sentinel whit 2x Grond, Hammer of the Underworld, and it works nice :)
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Goblin Armory x4. That's all I'm gonna say for now.
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Goblin Armory x4. That's all I'm gonna say for now.
if i add 4x Goblin Armory i must cut 4 minios, and that leaves mi at 20 minions, and i have no weapons to get extra tokens. and i cant and 4 cards coz its must be 30/30 coz of SFtF.
Goblin Armory will only prevet wounds, but archery isnt a big problem, PATHS are.. but no one seams to play it hehe :)
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Hmm. The Freeps seems familiar. (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,2953.0.html)
The hardest part is going to be winning skirmishes on your Free Peoples' side. A strength 8-11 companion just won't cut it against most decks and the wounds will pile up. Leoywn and Deor need to be squeezed in just to win a few skirmishes and heal what you cannot. But my biggest problem with my version is it just cannot handle tough minions.
No Eowyn's Sword, Dernhelm's Blade? No Herugrim?
Your Shadow side isn't very well balanced to use Hate and Anger. Eight Uruk-Hai against four Hate and Anger just won't cut it. I'd recommend Cirith Ungol Sentry, Cirith Ungol Sentinel, and a few copies of Grond, Hammer of the Underworld to get rid of the tough conditions and artifacts.
-wtk
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I think that Uruk Captain would be a good addition for this deck. It's probably better than Uruk Spy. There is also Uruk Foot Soldier that could be an option.
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I agree about the Uruk Spy. You're not likely to get enough burdens to corrupt with just Uruk Spy and Pelennor Flat*, and Pelennor Plain is the only card you have that uses burdens, so once you hit the assignment phase of site 4, Uruk Spy is worthless.
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Hmm. The Freeps seems familiar. (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,2953.0.html)
wasn't stealing hehe :)
The hardest part is going to be winning skirmishes on your Free Peoples' side. A strength 8-11 companion just won't cut it against most decks and the wounds will pile up. Leoywn and Deor need to be squeezed in just to win a few skirmishes and heal what you cannot. But my biggest problem with my version is it just cannot handle tough minions.
No Eowyn's Sword, Dernhelm's Blade? No Herugrim?
Its true, it wont win skirmishes, but it can cancel a few with helm,a and kill some with bow.
But then, good side is not desing to win skirmishes, but to get all fello cards out and survive long enough to make a shadow kill.
Leoywn and Deor would be nice i just need find a place to fit them in.
No Eowyn's Sword, Dernhelm's Blade coz it can be dead weight, Riders Spear is more "universal".
No Herugrim coz Theoden gets burned :hey:
Your Shadow side isn't very well balanced to use Hate and Anger. Eight Uruk-Hai against four Hate and Anger just won't cut it. I'd recommend Cirith Ungol Sentry, Cirith Ungol Sentinel, and a few copies of Grond, Hammer of the Underworld to get rid of the tough conditions and artifacts.
-wtk
Trust me, with pulling fello cards out, 8 uruks is more than enough ;)
Cirith Ungol Sentry and Cirith Ungol Sentinel whit Grond, Hammer of the Underworld seams like a very good idea!
It would be nice to discard Aiglos from lego or possessions from ringbearer. I should replace Isengard uruks with Sauron uruks, and cut on 2 minions to add 2x Grond, Hammer of the Underworld, and that leaves me whit 22 minions, still good for two good swarms :) . I should test that.
I think that Uruk Captain would be a good addition for this deck. It's probably better than Uruk Spy. There is also Uruk Foot Soldier that could be an option.
Uruk Captain is nice, but uruks are roaming till site 5, and at site 4 thats 5 tokesn for Uruk Captain, 1 more to pull another uruk for 4 tokens ,and thats 10 tokens which is just too much.
I had Uruk Foot Soldier, but i replaced him for Uruk Savage coz of 3 vita.
I agree about the Uruk Spy. You're not likely to get enough burdens to corrupt with just Uruk Spy and Pelennor Flat*, and Pelennor Plain is the only card you have that uses burdens, so once you hit the assignment phase of site 4, Uruk Spy is worthless.
To tell you the truth, i never use him, its there just to scare the opponent hehe :)
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I don't think I would be too intimidated by seeing Uruk Spy. Or this shadow.
Any deck with a [Shire] Ring-Bearer is sure to have The Tale of Great Ring or Bounder. And any other Ring-bearer (except Galadriel, I guess) would be strong enough to survive a swarm. I mean, Coat of Mail, Heavy Chain, Footman's Armor, Dwarven Armor...
-wtk
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Any deck with a [Shire] Ring-Bearer is sure to have The Tale of Great Ring or Bounder. And any other Ring-bearer (except Galadriel, I guess) would be strong enough to survive a swarm. I mean, Coat of Mail, Heavy Chain, Footman's Armor, Dwarven Armor...
-wtk
i tested the deck wiht 4x Cirith Ungol Sentry and 4x Cirith Ungol Sentinel whit 2x Grond, Hammer of the Underworld and it works very well, so bye bye Coat of Mail, Heavy Chain, Footman's Armor, Dwarven Armor, The Tale of Great Ring or Bounder ;)
and in this test i lost, coz i had a GREAT draw, 2x STFtF and Éowyn, and i pulled 5 possesions whit Eomer, but...my i was playing VS. dicard, and i lost my deck at site 4 hehe, and he out run me, coz he had Radagast.
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so change to Frodo, Courteous Halfling
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wasn't stealing hehe
I wasn't suggesting you did steal it. In fact, I got my idea from legolas3333. That's why this is a community.
If you did stick with [Isengard] Uruk-Hai, I would consider Saruman's Power. That should help with conditions.
Like I said, simple swarm decks don't really intimidate me. Unless they are all strength 8+ minions that you can bomb burst and make some damage + or fierce...well, I figure I can handle it.
Why don't you edit the original post so we can see how the deck looks now?
-wtk
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Here's just a suggestion but...
run 1-2 copies of Drums In The Deep, that way you can prevent the effects of The Tale Of The Great Ring, I would almost include a single tower assassin to take out rumil/orophin/bounder, or you ever need protection against archery, throw in 2 desert sneak and 2 high vantage.
oh and I would change the spy to a better dude, heck maybe just a plain old Orthanc Warrior
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Edit: added 4x Cirith Ungol Sentry and 4x Cirith Ungol Sentinel whit 2x Grond, Hammer of the Underworld, and it works nice :)
Grod and Swarms are nice if i pull them early
but im now on 22 minions, only good for two swarms..
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only two problems with your swarm
no wounding protection at all, (Greenleaf, Aragorn's Bow)
Bounder, PATHS, The Tale Of The Great Ring
how do you deal with those, beside grond which is !too late.
:EDIT: And as you mentioned, it is small, if they survive the first couple bombs they basically win the game.
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I guess it all depends on matchup indeed. You need to be able to make the choice to run. Focussing on a shadowkill is nice, but when all of that fails, you need to switch tactics. Yesterday I was playing a game and I passed the First Level, since I saw my shadow wasn't doing anything. Luckily for me it worked ;-)
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*This post mustn't be read by people under 18 years. It contains bad language*
"Gadafi throws Rohan compainos in to the fire with hate and anger"
Maybe I'll stand alone with my opinion, but as I'm Swiss, it must be said:
Gadafi is a real #$&*@!. Seriously.
#$&*@!, I mean, look at the circumstandes: only because his son beat down some Swiss hotel employee and got arrested, the whole Drama started.
Anyway, Merz is also an #$&*@!. Just to have said it.
If you want some more explanatory opinions from myself, PM me.
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Hmm...politics aside, I don't think you needed the warning about using the word #$&*@!.
I've said far worse with less warning.
-wtk
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Hmm...politics aside, I don't think you needed the warning about using the word #$&*@!.
I've said far worse with less warning.
-wtk
Yeah, but you're ket_the_jet, having 1940 posts (8.661 per day) registered on 07/30/09! I'm a newbie compared with you. ;)
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Aw, stop...I'm blushing!
-wtk
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Hmm...politics aside, I don't think you needed the warning about using the word #$&*@!.
I've said far worse with less warning.
-wtk
Yeah, but you're ket_the_jet, having 1940 posts (8.661 per day) registered on 07/30/09! I'm a newbie compared with you. ;)
Yeah at a certain point I thought: well I must keep track of this dude, but I can't.....