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Title: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: hrcho on May 12, 2010, 03:28:53 PM: If Witch-king, Lord of the Nazgul wins a skirmish, which comes first: In the Ringwraith's Wake or his text?
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Faelach on May 12, 2010, 03:34:49 PM: I would say his text goes first, as that is already in play at the time of the skirmish resolution. :)
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: hrcho on May 12, 2010, 03:51:42 PM: Quote from: Faelach on May 12, 2010, 03:34:49 PM
I would say his text goes first, as that is already in play at the time of the skirmish resolution. :)

I don't think that matters much. If there was a [Wraith] condition that had Response: If nazgul wins a skirmish... what would go first?
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Thranduil on May 12, 2010, 04:34:41 PM: I think you choose which one goes first. They are both optional actions so you can choose to respond in any order you like. I don't think there's a timing difference between each time and response actions, but I could be wrong.

Thranduil
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Faelach on May 12, 2010, 04:40:27 PM: I agree with Bones. It would just seem to me, though, that the Witch-King's action should probably be taken first, just seems logical.
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: jdizzy001 on May 12, 2010, 07:46:02 PM: As much as I hate to admit it, because the other way would be awesome, the wording on the two cards inclines me to believe wikky's text activates before the response kick's in
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Thranduil on May 13, 2010, 01:08:42 AM: Quote from: jdizzy001 on May 12, 2010, 07:46:02 PM
As much as I hate to admit it, because the other way would be awesome, the wording on the two cards inclines me to believe wikky's text activates before the response kick's in
Why? I don't understand your logic.
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: legolas3333 on May 13, 2010, 03:25:36 AM: The witch king wins the skirmish
each time actions
response actions

that's how i think it works
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Thranduil on May 13, 2010, 04:12:06 AM: They both are optional actions triggered by winning the skirmish. This is what the comprehensive rulebook says on the subject:

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After all such required actions have resolved, players may perform optional actions responding to that same trigger using the action procedure.

You use the action procedure, so the FP gets the first option to respond, then you can either trigger the Witch-King's text or play in the Ringwraiths' Wake, then the FP gets an action, then you get to use the other. You can choose the order freely.

Thranduil
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Elgar on May 13, 2010, 07:52:07 AM: Quote from: Thranduil on May 13, 2010, 04:12:06 AM
You use the action procedure, so the FP gets the first option to respond, then you can either trigger the Witch-King's text or play in the Ringwraiths' Wake, then the FP gets an action, then you get to use the other. You can choose the order freely.

Thranduil

This is correct.
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Not a Zombie on May 13, 2010, 04:13:56 PM: ^agreed
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: jdizzy001 on May 13, 2010, 05:52:06 PM: YOO HOO! that is so great
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Faelach on May 14, 2010, 11:59:27 AM: Haha! Wow... "HOO" autolinks to Boromir. Sorry, just found that funny.
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: jdizzy001 on May 14, 2010, 05:55:19 PM: yeah, i've done that before. i always forget. the best part is the image of hoo is boromir celebrating
Title: Re: In Wikky's Wake
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 15, 2010, 02:33:07 AM: There's also... WOO HOO! :lol:

Favorite though is when NOLINKmenace had to nolink "NOM NOM NOM"