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Title: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 06, 2010, 01:00:05 AM
After all the spelling mistakes posts with my Animals expansion, well I put a Lorem Ipsum latin text lol  \:D/

Sorry boys my english is very bad...

See you friends!
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on June 06, 2010, 01:08:38 AM
M'kay, what's up with the multiple languages in the text?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Witchkingx5 on June 06, 2010, 03:09:11 AM
It's Latin.

And, just to ask, which programm did you use to create that card?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 06, 2010, 03:17:00 AM
I made both layouts (The Animals and The Great Eagles) with Photoshop
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 06, 2010, 03:30:53 AM
that is awesome ... !!

what does the Eagle 2 mean? Who is the signet?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on June 06, 2010, 03:37:40 AM
Who is the signet?

It kind of looks like Radagast.

But I must ask again, why are there two different languages on the card?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 06, 2010, 03:41:23 AM
Who is the signet?

It kind of looks like Radagast.

But I must ask again, why are there two different languages on the card?

I don't think he is trying to show us a finished card given his 1st language is Spanish. It's more about showing what can be done. The templates are tops, the translated text is terrible, and anything not in English is confusing because i am one of those one language people.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on June 06, 2010, 03:45:30 AM
You're going into dangerous territory with the Radagast pic... it would be best to remove it.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 06, 2010, 03:51:56 AM
The first language is latin, I can't put a perfect english card cause I'm from Barcelona, Spain. I only use english to read in internet, it's my 3-4th language sorry... Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing, design and typesetting industry, when you need to write something that you don't know...
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 06, 2010, 03:52:46 AM
Remove? why?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Witchkingx5 on June 06, 2010, 04:59:14 AM
Copyright of WETA
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 06, 2010, 05:37:41 AM
Removed the image...
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 06, 2010, 02:14:33 PM
When you use photoshop to make your templates - did you start from scratch or modify an existing card? I am guessing started with an existing card?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 06, 2010, 03:19:31 PM
I have a basic template of a card, the other is mine. I have 3 base templates, sites, events/conditions and characters/minions.

Take a look
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Thranduil on June 07, 2010, 04:41:23 AM
Can you make existing culture templates (like [Elven], [Gandalf] etc.)? Not sure you can actually post those here, but if you can could you email me?

Thranduil
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: jdizzy001 on June 07, 2010, 07:15:25 AM
cuando nesacitas un translacion, me puedes IM.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Witchkingx5 on June 07, 2010, 07:38:49 AM
Can you make existing culture templates (like [Elven], [Gandalf] etc.)? Not sure you can actually post those here, but if you can could you email me?

Thranduil

That would be cool. Maybe we could create a Lotr TCG card maker or somewhat like that to make DC sets more "alive".
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 07, 2010, 01:48:23 PM
This text has been translated by google translate, sorry for the spelling mistakes...

Make a layout is difficult, only that of "The Animals" I have 30 layers of photoshop. But the truth is that motivates me to do a project as a new expansion for LOTR TCG. If there is a serious project for expansion I volunteer to do if you want.

Answering the question of Thranduil, I have no layouts for existing cultures, sorry. But it would be easy. I personally like more to create a new culture.

Someone encouraged to begin?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Cw0rk on June 07, 2010, 04:59:42 PM
This text has been translated by google translate, sorry for the spelling mistakes...

Make a layout is difficult, only that of "The Animals" I have 30 layers of photoshop. But the truth is that motivates me to do a project as a new expansion for LOTR TCG. If there is a serious project for expansion I volunteer to do if you want.

Answering the question of Thranduil, I have no layouts for existing cultures, sorry. But it would be easy. I personally like more to create a new culture.

Someone encouraged to begin?
I haven't seen a lot of people making DC sets with new cultures. The only one I can think of is Smeagollum's attempt at The Silmarillon. Perhaps you could contact him and see if you can contribute to his project.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Yanko Markovic on June 07, 2010, 06:47:31 PM
Can you make existing culture templates (like [Elven], [Gandalf] etc.)? Not sure you can actually post those here, but if you can could you email me?

Thranduil

That would be cool. Maybe we could create a Lotr TCG card maker or somewhat like that to make DC sets more "alive".

That would be veery cool! Actually, the only time I have really care about DC's has been when they're visual, and since we cannot do that, I rarely have visited the DC forum. But if we actually CAN do visual DC's, I will be a big supporter. Do we have a graphic designer or something like that in the forums to do this?

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cuando nesacitas un translacion, me puedes IM

LOL.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Cw0rk on June 07, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
Can you make existing culture templates (like [Elven], [Gandalf] etc.)? Not sure you can actually post those here, but if you can could you email me?

Thranduil

That would be cool. Maybe we could create a Lotr TCG card maker or somewhat like that to make DC sets more "alive".

Once you have the template and the right fonts, I guess that it's pretty easy to make a basic card maker on Microsoft Word using 'text zones'.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on June 07, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
That would be amazing.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 07, 2010, 10:42:28 PM
i have a card making program for Star Trek 2e cards - perhaps it can be adapated for use for LOTR? i don't know much about programming but will have a look inside some of the files and see if i can work anything out.

Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 08, 2010, 12:30:52 AM
(google translated)

I'm a graphic designer, and it's more easy to make layouts with photoshop layers, word it's !$%W&%...

If all prefer to continue with traditional cultures, perfect we can make a new expansion with the same ... but in photoshop lol.

I make the cards, I'm just missing the texts and images ... who want to help?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 08, 2010, 01:07:05 AM
There are probably thousands of dream cards in the forums on this website along with many completed dream card sets. Templates would greatly aid in making these cards more interesting to playtest.

I have tried to modify cards with paint and word and its not great. I don't have photoshop but tried with Gimp ... got some basic card templates doing it this way but i am sure photoshop would do a much better job (particularly if you are skilled at using it).

If those of us that are interested in putting some complete DCs for playtesting and some additional fun i am interested in helping out. There are some members of this site that are pretty talented at coming up with text for dream cards, and some of the cards i have read sound like they would be a lot of fun to play with.

There are members of this site that have the fonts as well. I think I may be able to help out here ... from memory someone made them from scratch and sent them through to me.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 08, 2010, 04:03:57 AM
No problem for the fonts, I have the LOTRTCG fonts (I think that are Minion and Matrix), I used that fonts in my templates. It's time to decide what expansion do only. We have the card templates, the original fonts, the pictos and logos from the original cards... we only need the texts of the new cards and the images. The DC texts are here... the BIG PROBLEM: The images.

What can we do? There are Licences problems? New images? Old images from old cards?

Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: gk1964 on June 08, 2010, 04:39:36 AM
I think that the big licencing issue would be distributing DCs with images inserted.

Why not create the cards without an image and then those who wish to use them can insert them for themselves.

gk
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Thranduil on June 08, 2010, 09:05:39 AM
I think that the big licencing issue would be distributing DCs with images inserted.

Why not create the cards without an image and then those who wish to use them can insert them for themselves.

gk
From what I understood, there is also a problem with starting from the Decipher template. I was under the impression that starting from scratch, however, was technically allowed.

I'm not trying to blow my own horn, but some people have already started playing with these cards (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,4075.msg53524.html#msg53524) (you can download the attachment for the simple text versions I made). Might be an interesting place to start.

Thranduil
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: bcndisseny on June 08, 2010, 10:47:17 AM
Thranduil,

If I do a NEW reestyling of the actual template, any of the elements will be the same (circles, the sword and shield...) all made from scratch, all new. But all in the same place. That will be allowed... But the culture pictos are under copyright no? I need to do new pictos for the cultures too? Bad solution...

I don't want text cards, I want to play with pro-like cards. Any idea?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Thranduil on June 08, 2010, 12:27:42 PM
Thranduil,

If I do a NEW reestyling of the actual template, any of the elements will be the same (circles, the sword and shield...) all made from scratch, all new. But all in the same place. That will be allowed... But the culture pictos are under copyright no? I need to do new pictos for the cultures too? Bad solution...
You don't need to necessarily use pictures at all. The simple images we use here aren't copywrighted, like [Dwarven]. Or you could just use letter combinations like [DW].

I don't want text cards, I want to play with pro-like cards. Any idea?
I was giving the text cards only as an example of a place to start with making real templates of dream cards.

Thranduil
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 08, 2010, 02:09:21 PM
Fake and complete DCs are being sold on Ebay for Star Trek. Decipher have been told but as yet nothing has been done about it. They mustn't care as much about it as we all fear .... it's not like the cards we are talking about are being made to make a profit. Just my 2cents.

Category1Games said he was going to approach Decipher these summer holidays ... don't know how he is going with that ... but there may be some sort of approval on the way?
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: Cw0rk on June 08, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
If [dwarven] is copyrighted, you can just make a brown rectangle and it's gonan be enough. You can do a blue circle for the elves and a yellow triangle for gandalf.
Title: Re: Another Layout
Post by: chompers on June 09, 2010, 03:43:42 AM
i have a card making program for Star Trek 2e cards - perhaps it can be adapated for use for LOTR? i don't know much about programming but will have a look inside some of the files and see if i can work anything out.



had a look ..... i have no idea how this program works or what programming language has been used .. sorry can't be of help here