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Title: Toldea's Dark Approach
Post by: Witchkingx5 on June 20, 2010, 10:56:35 AM

When I use Dark Aproach to play Ulaire Toldea, Black Shadow, can I exert him to get the same Dark Approach back? I think so, but I'm not really sure.

Title: Re: Toldea's Dark Approach
Post by: Elessar's Socks on June 20, 2010, 11:06:08 AM

The "playing a card" summary in the 8/13/07 CRD has the full details, but the short answer is no. At the point Toldea is using his text, the Dark Approach used to play him is still in the void, not the discard pile.

Title: Re: Toldea's Dark Approach
Post by: King89 on June 20, 2010, 11:29:43 AM

wasn't there a clarification that in this special case toldea can get the same dark approach back?

Title: Re: Toldea's Dark Approach
Post by: Tbiesty on June 20, 2010, 11:57:06 AM

Quote from: King89 on June 20, 2010, 11:29:43 AM

wasn't there a clarification that in this special case toldea can get the same dark approach back?

I believe the explanation by Elessar's Armpits is correct.  Here is another topic that covered this:

http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,1419.msg20829.html#msg20829 (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,1419.msg20829.html#msg20829)

Title: Re: Toldea's Dark Approach
Post by: Elgar on June 21, 2010, 07:19:58 AM

Quote from: Elessar's Armpits on June 20, 2010, 11:06:08 AM

The "playing a card" summary in the 8/13/07 CRD has the full details, but the short answer is no. At the point Toldea is using his text, the Dark Approach used to play him is still in the void, not the discard pile.

This is correct.  DA is in the void when Toldea's ability is triggered, and therefore that DA cannot be taken into hand as it is not yet in the discard pile.

Title: Re: Toldea's Dark Approach
Post by: Witchkingx5 on June 21, 2010, 10:04:17 AM

OK, I was not sure, so thanks to everyone for making this clear to me!