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Title: Cards you wonder if anyone has EVER used.
Post by: rubbercarp on September 09, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
Every once and a while I'll come across a card that boggles my mind. A card that I wonder if ANYONE has EVER legitimately used. Especially some rares.

For example: Change of Plans.

Has anyone ever used this card in a deck?
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Post by: ket_the_jet on September 09, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
That card has a nice place in some of the loop decks.

I think New Power Rising is a better example.
-wtk
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Post by: legolas3333 on September 09, 2010, 09:32:30 PM
Change of plans is key in fruit loops

Men of harad
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Post by: itjunkie on September 10, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
how about Supplies from the Mark ?
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Post by: itjunkie on September 10, 2010, 09:36:56 AM
sorry, that's supplies of the mark.

these cards do have uses...though I can't imaging them actually being put in the deck. hehe
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Post by: ket_the_jet on September 10, 2010, 11:51:30 AM
Men of Harad is a good one. My favorite is Lightfootedness.
-wtk
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Post by: Witchkingx5 on September 10, 2010, 11:55:19 AM
Treachery Deeper Than You Know.... there are thousands of cards I'd play over this one...
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Post by: Ishmar on September 10, 2010, 12:00:50 PM
Seventh level >.>
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Post by: jdizzy001 on September 10, 2010, 10:37:43 PM
My favorite is Lightfootedness.
-wtk

That is the first card I thought of when I say the title.  how about dwarven guard?  Then again, he is a good meat shield.
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Post by: TheJord on September 10, 2010, 10:49:21 PM
The Weight of a Legacy, its rare for goodness sakes!
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Post by: rubbercarp on September 11, 2010, 08:05:26 AM
The Weight of a Legacy, its rare for goodness sakes!

Yeah, it's the rares that especially boggle my mind
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Post by: Witchkingx5 on September 12, 2010, 01:38:18 AM
My favorite is Lightfootedness.
-wtk

That is the first card I thought of when I say the title.  how about Bwarf guard?  Then again, he is a good meat shield.

are you serious? Dwarf guard makes Dwarfs at least a bit competitive in expanded.

Gimli, BoG
Dain Ironfoot
Durin III
Dwarf Guard x4

that's a nice starting setup, isn't it?

and also, Dwarf Guard makes mono Dwarfs playable in FotR Block (even though they are not so good).
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Post by: hrcho on September 12, 2010, 04:45:22 AM
Also, Dwarf Guard is the best choice if you wanna run SFTF/Dwarves.

Sigewulf, Brave Volunteer, Stern People, Valleys of the Mark, Seeking New Foes are some of the cards that cross my mind. You can notice they are all [Rohan] and I really tried to use them in a deck of some sort, but they are too expensive for their effect. Same goes for Reckless Pride, Ancient Blade and Unexpected Visitor. While their texts could even be used to some purpose, their twilight cost is too high.
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Post by: Kralik on September 12, 2010, 05:24:16 PM
I remember back in the day when I tons of commons/uncommons, but not much selection and very little rares. Decks were a bit more random back then, doing what I could with what I had. I could see some of these cards getting use in such cases. I mean, I used to actually play with Lorien Elf!

That's before I spent $2-3k on FotR/TT boxes.
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Post by: hrcho on September 13, 2010, 02:47:03 AM
Heh, first time I tried to use Galadriel, BoW, I used Lorien Elf as a starting companion because I didn't know that RB-s are free  #-o
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Post by: Kralik on September 13, 2010, 08:28:08 PM
What a great lineup! Strength 3-5 and strength 4... slaughtered by a Morgul Gates play. :mrgreen:
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Post by: jdizzy001 on September 13, 2010, 09:54:43 PM
I remember when I had tons of c's and u's without rares.  Those were the days. back when I dreamed of owning anduril (or any rare for that matter.)
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Post by: SomeRandomDude on September 14, 2010, 08:56:54 AM
Treachery Deeper Than You Know.... there are thousands of cards I'd play over this one...

Never underestimate the power of knowing exactly what your opponent is planning on doing.

(Especially if gearing for a Radagast run).

I'm thinking of a Smeagol/Gandalf clog deck with this card.
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Post by: Elessar's Socks on September 14, 2010, 12:51:50 PM
Heh, first time I tried to use Galadriel, BoW, I used Lorien Elf as a starting companion because I didn't know that RB-s are free  #-o
I wonder if the Elves will sing of mad lady Galadriel and the day she press-ganged a Lorien Elf into her little adventure.
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Post by: Gerontius on September 14, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
Reckless Pride

Mostly useless, but it used to play a key role in my Easterling Bomb deck.
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Post by: SomeRandomDude on September 15, 2010, 11:29:10 AM
Reckless Pride = Open format loops.
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Post by: argyles on September 17, 2010, 10:22:37 AM
i would go with : Such a Little Thing (3R80) and Hollowing of Isengard (3R54)
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Post by: rubbercarp on September 17, 2010, 10:33:15 AM
i would go with : Such a Little Thing (3R80) and Hollowing of Isengard (3R54)

I used to use Hollowing of Isengard in my Regroup wounding Orcs deck.
It took me a few games to realize how silly I was. "But just imagine getting a copy in your opening hand! Free twilight later in the game!"

Yeah, I was silly.  =)
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Post by: ket_the_jet on September 17, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
I've always wanted to build a Windows In a Stone Wall deck. Oh yeah. You can't control what kind of minions you face.
-wtk
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Post by: legolas3333 on September 18, 2010, 02:36:01 AM
Mordor Enraged
Make Light of Burdens
They Will Never Stop Hunting You
Stump And Bramble
Southron Marcher
Forewarned
Seeking New Foes
Eowyn's Shield
Elven Rope
Gorbag's Sword
Strange and Terrible
Cast Out
Pirate Cutthroat
Uruk-hai Healer
Burial Mounds
Undead of Angmar
Land Had Changed
Ents Marching
In Twilight
Title: Re: Cards you wonder if anyone has EVER used.
Post by: hrcho on September 18, 2010, 04:10:51 AM
Eowyn's Shield is not a bad card at all. Especially on Lady of Ithilien against Easterlings. I use it in my Restless Maiden deck.

I love Gorbag's Sword. Although it costs too much, I made a fun deck around it and Gorbag, Lieutenant of Cirith Ungol.

I also used Elven Rope and Undead of Angmar. Elven Rope can be very handy against Gollum or Grima and Undead of Angmar is essential in Wraith deck.
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Post by: Witchkingx5 on September 18, 2010, 04:31:19 AM
I must admit that all Rares Lego mentioned are rarely used, but one is definitely not: Land Had Changed. This card is crazy in any Site Control Uruk Deck, and notice the wording: any Uruk-Hai. It can be used in Expanded for  [Isengard] Uruks, or in Standard/ Expanded for  [Uruk] and [Sauron] Uruks, which makes this card very versatile. And a potential strength +5 damage +1 pump mostly means a dead companion. It's not as good, but can be like Savagery to match their numbers in Site Control Decks.
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Post by: ket_the_jet on September 18, 2010, 04:42:44 AM
Elven Rope is pretty good.
-wtk
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Post by: ununtrium on September 18, 2010, 06:31:37 AM
in twilight is quite handy in wraith deck, too. I like these "wandering" pumps from Ages End very much.
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Post by: stimpy on September 18, 2010, 07:38:47 AM
I must admit that all Rares Lego mentioned are rarely used, but one is definitely not: Land Had Changed. This card is crazy in any Site Control Uruk Deck, and notice the wording: any Uruk-Hai. It can be used in Expanded for  [Isengard] Uruks, or in Standard/ Expanded for  [Uruk] and [Sauron] Uruks, which makes this card very versatile. And a potential strength +5 damage +1 pump mostly means a dead companion. It's not as good, but can be like Savagery to match their numbers in Site Control Decks.


On a similar note, I have a friend who in an informal deck threw in some copies of Uruk-hai Healer in a berserker deck... he could exert the berserkers to add tokens to his machines, then heal them for their skirmish abilities. I know it doesn't really fit any particular block since the berserkers are movie... but still, it was pretty mean.
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Post by: ramolnar on September 18, 2010, 02:46:38 PM
i would go with : Such a Little Thing (3R80) and Hollowing of Isengard (3R54)

In original Fellowship block, Such a Little Thing was incredibly important. Horn of Boromir is very powerful. There were also lots of 3 and 4 bids, and 6 bids using Sam Son of Hamfast; getting 2 more burdens would trigger Enquea.
A Ranger's Versatility Decks ran Boromir for Flaming Brand and Gondor Bowmen; Hobbit decks ran the pumping version; Gandalf decks ran him as a fighter. Most decks ran a version. And you could always play it for no effect if needed. I saw Moria decks that ran 3.

As for other cards, I only played through set 13. I'll reinforce positive comments on Eowyn's Shield (for archery heavy metas) and Elven Rope. Any card that removes a Goblin Runner from the Ring-bearer is not a terrible card.
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Post by: legolas3333 on September 18, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
sorry if my list offended you guys, ive never seen those cards played though
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Post by: Witchkingx5 on September 19, 2010, 01:29:55 AM
No problem, I was also suprised by some of those comments...

I suspect that if a TCG doesn't release any new cards at all, players start to use even "worse" cards, just to try them, to make them playable and to have more fun.
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Post by: hrcho on September 19, 2010, 03:49:25 AM
sorry if my list offended you guys, ive never seen those cards played though

I don't think anyone was offended, so no need for apologies. We were just proving you wrong ;)

I suspect that if a TCG doesn't release any new cards at all, players start to use even "worse" cards, just to try them, to make them playable and to have more fun.

I am one of those players, but there is limit even to that with some cards. And those are the cards which should be named here. :mrgreen:
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Post by: Elrohir on September 19, 2010, 04:13:25 AM
I declare Eowyn, Lady of the Mark and Miruvore for the category never-used-card. Although I will build a deck soon with these two. :)
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Post by: Witchkingx5 on September 19, 2010, 09:52:28 AM
well, like 30% of all Age's End cards are crap, 30% are Op and 40% are like ok. But Miruvore is not the only bad card in T&D; Enemy in Your Midst, Set Up... the liost is nearly endless.
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Post by: ket_the_jet on September 19, 2010, 11:11:08 AM
How has no one mentioned Death They Cried?!
-wtk
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Post by: ununtrium on September 19, 2010, 12:30:02 PM
Death they cried really reminds me of parallax arguers from stccg. It may not be the most competitive card, but it always makes for some funny diversion. The perfect meta card.
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Post by: jdizzy001 on September 21, 2010, 08:30:13 PM
I LOVE DEATH THEY CRIED! Maybe I like it because of the event it represents.  mechanically, it isn't super effective, but..... "DEATH!"
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Post by: TheJord on September 21, 2010, 10:14:40 PM
Gruesome Meal is truly terrible
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Post by: Gil-Estel on September 21, 2010, 10:42:13 PM
Well it has it use, other than death they cried.
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Post by: Kralik on September 22, 2010, 06:33:00 AM
Death They Cried DOES have a use - amusement! In fact, I pack four copies in all* of my Rohan decks... ;)

Actually, I think someone mentioned Change of Plans in this list. I was thinking it could be a fun card to combo with a discard deck when you know your opponent is biding their time by not playing minions and building a great hand. Maybe Change of Plans + No Safe Places.  :twisted:

*Technically this statement is true if you consider that I have no Rohan decks...
Title: Re: Cards you wonder if anyone has EVER used.
Post by: Gil-Estel on September 22, 2010, 07:58:55 AM
Death They Cried DOES have a use - amusement! In fact, I pack four copies in all* of my Rohan decks... ;)

Actually, I think someone mentioned Change of Plans in this list. I was thinking it could be a fun card to combo with a discard deck when you know your opponent is biding their time by not playing minions and building a great hand. Maybe Change of Plans + No Safe Places.  :twisted:

*Technically this statement is true if you consider that I have no Rohan decks...
But can you pack cards in decks you don't have? :lol: But the Change of Plans and No safe places have their place in the fruit loop if I remember correctly....
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Post by: Crabby Imposter on October 22, 2010, 04:22:17 PM
Seventh level >.>

I use this in a deck.  Just make sure to play it during Regroup phase with Sixth Level, so you don't have to pay the cost of it before Shadow.