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Undying Lands => Valinor => Topic started by: hrcho on November 20, 2010, 05:09:20 PM

Title: Legality Check
Post by: hrcho on November 20, 2010, 05:09:20 PM
I've found two cards that check as legal in formats they are not supposed to check as legal.

 - Aragorn, Heir to the White City will check as legal in movie format
 - O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! will check as legal in TS format

I've seen both cards used in those formats and was once asked to go to #$&*@! for pointing that Heir to the White City is not legal in movie. I didn't oblige.  :lol:
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: hrcho on November 20, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
Also, Bill the Pony checks as illegal in TS.

Thx to Kainbr for finding that out.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Malachi on November 21, 2010, 01:34:37 AM
It still is, you just can't use it to cancel the skirmish if playing by the new rules.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: The New Guy on November 22, 2010, 05:56:09 AM
Well I play from sets 1-10 so lucky me. hahahaha......
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on November 22, 2010, 06:19:20 AM
wlk never updated the TS list after it was confirmed here (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,3284.0.html). The extra tables that are (were?) being hosted do have it correct though. Hence the discrepancy with Bill the Pony, OE!G! (which IS actually illegal), etc.

As to HttWC, now that's a problem. :P
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Crabby Imposter on November 27, 2010, 09:30:53 AM
Relics of Moria also turns up as illegal in TS.  Pretty sure the board said that was legal.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: uncle_elrond on November 28, 2010, 01:45:34 PM
I also saw someone who was using Aragorn, HttWC in a TS game.  Never seemed to get enough twilight so I ended up losing because of him.  My opponent didn't believe me when I said he was illegal either.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on November 28, 2010, 02:01:04 PM
To get these fixed, someone needs to contact wlk. The original TS list was based off of the Movie list, and Movie is lacking the HttWC entry. To fix:

1) Add HttWC to Movie.
2) Redo TS list per linked thread.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Smeagollum on November 29, 2010, 11:57:28 PM
Well the palantir of orthanc checks also as illegal in ts.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on November 30, 2010, 01:22:29 PM
Again, please see this thread (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php/topic,3284.0.html), which clears it all up.

Several cards that are X-ed in Movie are erroneously X-ed in TS.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Smeagollum on December 01, 2010, 02:42:27 AM
I understand that, but can anybody fix it, because not all players on gccg are also on tlhh or they are new and it gives a lot of confusion?
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on December 01, 2010, 06:40:30 AM
To get these fixed, someone needs to contact wlk. The original TS list was based off of the Movie list, and Movie is lacking the HttWC entry. To fix:

1) Add HttWC to Movie.
2) Redo TS list per linked thread.

!
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: hrcho on December 01, 2010, 08:48:21 AM
So, how does one contact wlk? Is there any email? PM is not required, I think, because as soon as checks the forum, he will notice this thread. I believe The Green Dragon is the section he is most interested in.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Smeagollum on December 01, 2010, 08:52:02 AM
wlk is Ket right?
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: hrcho on December 01, 2010, 09:00:43 AM
nope, he signs as wtk
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on December 01, 2010, 12:53:55 PM
I'm pretty sure you can use:

/whois wlk

To see his email as defined in GCCG.

Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: ket_the_jet on December 01, 2010, 02:52:49 PM
wlk is Ket right?

Nope. I am "God."
-wtk
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Smeagollum on December 01, 2010, 03:36:21 PM
wlk is Ket right?

Nope. I am "God."
-wtk

Doesnt god mean he who everyone fantasises about, but who actually isnt out there:p
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: TheJord on December 01, 2010, 03:56:14 PM
I believe that is probably a discussion for elsewhere
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: hrcho on December 01, 2010, 04:03:56 PM
Mail sent to wlk. I hope he checks his mail more often than he checks the forum  :lol:
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: wlk on December 02, 2010, 10:27:33 AM
Kralik,

Can you post me the updated rule files ?
(those you were using on the extra tables)
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: wlk on December 02, 2010, 10:46:15 AM
So far, the only missing X-listed from TS are:
2R108 O Elbereth! Gilthoniel!
4C192 Uruk Regular

Do you confirm ?

current TS-X-List:
·Elrond, Lord Of Rivendell
·Galadriel, Lady of Light
·Ottar, Man Of Laketown
No Stranger to the Shadows
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
Relics of Moria
·Úlairë Nertëa, Messenger Of Dol Guldur
Forces of Mordor
·Sting
Flaming Brand
·Aragorn, Heir To The White City
·Horn of Boromir
·The Palantír of Orthanc
·Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
·Bill the Pony
Frying Pan
·Steadfast Champion
Gondorian Captain
Aggression
·Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
·Filibert Bolger, Wily Rascal


And the current Movie-X-List already contains HttWC:
·Elrond, Lord Of Rivendell
·Galadriel, Lady of Light
·Ottar, Man Of Laketown
No Stranger to the Shadows
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
Relics of Moria
·Úlairë Nertëa, Messenger Of Dol Guldur
Forces of Mordor
·Sting
Flaming Brand
·Aragorn, Heir To The White City
·Horn of Boromir
·The Palantír of Orthanc
·Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
·Bill the Pony
Frying Pan
·Steadfast Champion
Gondorian Captain
Aggression
·Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: ket_the_jet on December 02, 2010, 10:49:37 AM
Relics of Moria and the Palantir are not x-ed. Neither is Bill the Pony or Frying Pan.
-wtk
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: ket_the_jet on December 02, 2010, 10:52:29 AM
Also, please add Uruk Regular to the TS x-list.
-wtk
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: wlk on December 02, 2010, 11:01:05 AM
Ok, updated TS with this:
·Elrond, Lord Of Rivendell
·Galadriel, Lady of Light
·Ottar, Man Of Laketown
No Stranger to the Shadows
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
·Úlairë Nertëa, Messenger Of Dol Guldur
Forces of Mordor
·Sting
Flaming Brand
·Aragorn, Heir to the White City
·Horn of Boromir
·The Palantír of Orthanc
·Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
·Steadfast Champion
Gondorian Captain
Aggression
·Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
·Filibert Bolger, Wily Rascal
Uruk Regular
·O Elbereth! Gilthoniel!

Removed:
#Relics of Moria
#·Bill the Pony
#Frying Pan


Movie block had a typo on HttWC so it wasn't detected.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: ket_the_jet on December 02, 2010, 12:03:24 PM
Please remove the Palantir of Orthanc from the X List as well.
-wtk
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on December 03, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Thanks wlk and wtk! :)
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Smeagollum on December 03, 2010, 10:17:55 AM
Actually they still are not removed from the x-list in gccg :)

Sp wtk pls remove them from the x-list:


Bill the Pony
Relics of Moria
The Palantir of Orthanc
Frying Pan

I'll mail wtk:)
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: Kralik on December 03, 2010, 03:45:09 PM
wlk, not wtk.

wlk = LotR/GCCG maintainer
wtk = ket_the_jet

Also, you may see a difference between the GCCG server and your GCCG client. The client may say that it fails the legality check when it is in fact fixed on the server. Eventually there will probably be a GCCG update for the client as well. The server is the important one.
Title: Re: Legality Check
Post by: wlk on December 03, 2010, 11:49:04 PM
Clients legality check are now updated as well, update your clients.