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Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: MuadDib85 on January 04, 2011, 04:47:21 PM

Title: Replacing sites
Post by: MuadDib85 on January 04, 2011, 04:47:21 PM
Some cards allow a player to play the next site on the adventure path at times when the fellowship is not moving. These may be used even when the next site is already there. In such cases, the new site replaces the old one; put the old site back in its owner’s adventure deck. The new site takes the same site number the old site had, so that there is always only one site 1 in play, one site 2, and so on. When a site is replaced, all cards played on or stacked on the old site are moved to the new site.


I just wanted to post this straight from the rulebook, so that the two morons on gccg: Felixx and Butemin read it.

Don't bother playing games against these guys unless you want 20 minutes of pointless arguing about basic rules.
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: TheJord on January 04, 2011, 09:38:56 PM
What you are saying is true.
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: macheteman on January 05, 2011, 01:28:19 PM
and there was much rejoicing.
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: legolas3333 on January 07, 2011, 04:18:09 AM
ok i have a site question, if i start ranger of westernesse but am going second, do i get to play site one?
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: MuadDib85 on January 07, 2011, 06:03:48 AM
By the time Ranger of Westernesse is played there is already a site one. So no his text would play the second site.

The order after bidding should go:
1. Ringbearers and Rings (with bid burdens)
2. First player plays site
3. Starting Fellowships
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: legolas3333 on January 07, 2011, 06:42:01 PM
thanks much maudi
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: sgtdraino on September 03, 2012, 12:02:22 AM
I just wanted to bump this topic, because I feel like site manipulation is currently a highly-abused strategy with some of the post-Shadows formats. I've been seeing a lot of decks that are geared to play the same site over and over again, constantly replacing it, and then replaying it again, to achieve effects such as the opponent having to wound/exert his fellowship over and over, the opponent only ever being able to assign one minion per companion, the player getting to heal several guys with every move, etc. I'd really like to see this strategy get depowered a bit. Maybe I'm wrong, but when Decipher made those cards, I don't think they envisioned people playing the same site over and over again every single move.

So here's a thought: Most of the "play the next site" cards include language along the lines of, "replacing OPPONENT'S site if necessary." OPPONENT's site, not the player's own site. Any chance of a ruling that such cards can only replace the opponent's site, and do not work when trying to replace the player's own site? I feel this might check the abuse I currently see.

Of course, a blanket rule that you can only replace a site that you didn't play yourself would be even better, but I acknowledge that this would be a brand new rule. I think a somewhat stricter interpretation of the "opponent's site" language would perhaps be more palatable.
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: Ringbearer on September 04, 2012, 01:31:02 AM
I dont think that this is the right place to bump this, its better off as an issue alone on the bag end board, as it will be overlooked here.

Also the chanc of anything changing is 0,0. There is no ruling authority anymore, and people always wanna play the rules as they know it. You can add a house rule, but expect here to people following the rules as once made by Decipher. even if they arent the best set.
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: sgtdraino on September 04, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
Any chance of a move? Or shall I repost there?
Title: Re: Replacing sites
Post by: Ringbearer on September 07, 2012, 02:11:20 AM
Its been moved ^^

I understand where you're coming from, but I doubt it can be changed. Problem is simple: there is no rule-making authority. So rules, even the stupid ones, stay in place.