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Title: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: MuadDib85 on April 19, 2011, 02:41:54 AM
This deck is also pretty strong, the cheap trolls can be very devastating. My latest and favourite version of Knights / Besiegers.

Ring-bearer   9R+33   • Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms

The One Ring   4R1   • The One Ring, Answer To All Riddles

Adventure Deck
1   7U334   Steps of Edoras
2   7U336   Rohirrim Camp
3   10U117   Base of Mindolluin
4   8U118   City of the Dead
5   8U119   Crashed Gate
6   7U351   Minas Tirith Sixth Circle
7   8U120   Osgiliath Channel
8   7U358   Morgulduin
9   7U360   Dagorlad

Free Peoples Draw Deck

1x   5R31   • Alcarin, Warrior of Lamedon Start
1x   8C34   • Faramir, Defender of Osgiliath
1x   8R36   • Garrison of Gondor
1x   8R37   • Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth
1x   7C106   • Ingold Start
2x   9R+32   • Elendil, The Tall
1x   1C311   • Sam, Son Of Hamfast
1x   5C32   • Citadel of the Stars
3x   8C35   Fourth Level
2x   8U44   Sixth Level
1x   5R39   • Stone Tower
1x   7R122   • Strong and Old
3x   7U94   Gondor Bow
3x   7C108   Knight's Spear
1x   7U93   Footman's Armor
1x   8C40   Knight’s Mount
1x   7R79   • Anduril, Flame of the West
1x   9R+34   • Narsil, Blade of the Faithful
1x   9R36   • Scroll of Isildur
4x   9R35   Sapling of the White Tree
2x   0P23   • Aragorn, Captain of Gondor

Free Peoples Total   33

Shadow Draw Deck

2x   8U94   Gorgoroth Agitator
4x   8R95   Gorgoroth Assassin
3x   7R279   • Gorgoroth Troop
4x   8C102   Great Hill Troll
3x   8R108   • Troll of Gorgoroth, Abomination of Sauron
4x   7U281   Great Siege-towers
2x   8U107   Their Marching Companies
2x   7C315   • Tower Walkway
1x   7R316   • Troop Tower
2x   8R103   • Grond, Hammer of the Underworld
1x   9R+47   • Ithil Stone
2x   1U231   • Ulaire Enquea, Lieutenant of Morgul
1x   8R96   Gorgoroth Berserker
2x   0P55   Gorgoroth Swarm

Shadow Total   33
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: ket_the_jet on May 02, 2011, 07:30:47 PM
I think I would prefer one fewer Knight's Spear and one more Gondor Bow.

I know that I run a few Knight's Spear, but I almost think that the card is not necessary if you have the proper stock of Fortifications. You will, of course, run into problems against Saruman's Power, so it's nice to have a few strength boosters.

Also, you only run one copy of Troop Tower? I don't think you're going to be getting many sites with just one Gorgoroth Berserker and just one Troop Tower. Those are kind of the two top site-control cards. Of course, if you are just spamming Trolls then that is not a particularly big deal. But if you aren't worried about sites at all, why even run Gorgoroth Berserker?
-wtk
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: MuadDib85 on May 02, 2011, 11:14:42 PM
This just troll spamming. Sites are not really needed at all.

I have been thinking about raising the number of Forts. Sixth level keeps getting ditched and ruining things. An extra Gondor bow would be nice.
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: Not a Zombie on May 03, 2011, 06:46:53 AM
Just for the sake of one more engine out, I'd drop one tower walkway for one their marching companies.
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: FM on May 03, 2011, 09:29:07 AM
This just troll spamming.

Yeah, it seems like that's what I'm doing, too.

By the way...no Catapult?
-wtk

I've been meaning to ask... does catapult actually hit that often? Or is it just for cycling purposes? I mean, can you reliably count on it at any time?
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: Imrahil on May 03, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
Catapult is actually one of my favourite cards in the deck.  It's your only chance at condition or possession removal, and it crushes minions enough to make it very useful.  You can't count on it, but every once in a while it utterly changes the game.  Really you just have to look at the twilight cost of shadow cards on the table and estimate probabilities..

I'm also amazed you only have one Strong and Old.  I love that card. 
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: Ringbearer on May 03, 2011, 02:50:19 PM
I find Catapult not good enough. You pay cards for a possible hit, while there are better cards to fill the slot.
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: ket_the_jet on May 03, 2011, 02:55:18 PM
I find Catapult not good enough. You pay cards for a possible hit, while there are better cards to fill the slot.

I love Catapult, particularly against Ninja Gollum. The card you draw goes back on the deck. So if you happen to draw a [1], you can dump your hand and wreck the Web - They Stole It strategy. It's particularly nice when you can use it a few times to wreck a support area or minions played.
-wtk
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: MuadDib85 on May 03, 2011, 10:51:35 PM
By the way...no Catapult?
-wtk

Forgot to add it. Haha. Usually run two copies. I think the times that you can ditch a Castamir or cripple a support area make it worth while.

How about this:

-1 Sapling of The White Tree
-2 Knight's Spear

+1 Fourth Level (I chose this over an extra bow because there is also COTS and Stone Tower to finish off the exhausted bad guys, it sux having bows and negative vitality forts in play with no Fourth levels).
+2 Catapult
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: secondbest on May 04, 2011, 01:23:19 AM
If this is a troll spam deck you might consider troll of udun and gate troll too... they are -4 when they see one of their own:)
But i tried it and it might clog the hand at times. So be careful
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: ket_the_jet on May 04, 2011, 04:15:47 AM
I think Gate Troll at [4] is a better value than Troll of Udun at [6]. Just my opinion.
-wtk
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: TheJord on May 04, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
Gate Troll is better. He's cheaper and, by design, will be stronger
Title: Re: Knights - Besiegers
Post by: Yrael on May 19, 2011, 02:19:42 PM
Troll of Cirith Gorgor might help too. It isn't a besieger, but it can cause some major pain when brought out. Also, it is another option to spot for the cheap trolls.