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Title: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Mabrothrax on July 12, 2011, 06:02:39 AM
I have a question:

When I move during the regroup phase can I draw for Radagst's staff before discarding for Gandalf  BoO?

BoO text-
While Gandalf is the Ring-bearer, each time the fellowship moves, add 3 burdens unless you spot 2 other companions and discard 2 [GANDALF] cards from hand.

Radagast's staff text-
Bearer must be Radagast. Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may draw 2 cards.

Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: leokula on July 12, 2011, 06:13:56 AM
I'm pretty confident there's no rule to state what happens first in this case, they're both triggering at the same time, so the free peoples player can just choose.
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Doom on July 12, 2011, 07:05:56 AM
Yep leokula is right ^
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Mabrothrax on July 12, 2011, 07:07:48 AM
Sexy time.

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Elessar's Socks on July 12, 2011, 08:17:39 AM
I would think BoO happens first, as that is a required action, whereas Radagast's Staff (using "may") is an optional action.
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Gartax on July 12, 2011, 08:25:24 AM
Elessar is right!

Mandatory action always come first
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Mabrothrax on July 12, 2011, 09:26:42 AM
Hmm. I see.
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Doom on July 12, 2011, 01:21:02 PM
Are you sure? Is that in the rulebook?
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Mabrothrax on July 12, 2011, 02:02:52 PM
I certainly get the idea of 'may' vs. an implied 'must', but an action that is voluntary doesn't  necessarily occur before one that is mandatory when both are occurring theoretically simultaneously. Or something like that.

How I miss being a Trek TD. The endless discussions of timing and logic were hilarious.

That was 'cool' (score 5 points)
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: macheteman on July 12, 2011, 02:31:00 PM
nothing ever happens at the same time. mandatory actions always precede optional abilities.
Title: Re: Which happens first? Gandalf, BoO & Radagast's Staff
Post by: Doom on July 12, 2011, 03:13:37 PM
Oh you're right, just checked the rulebook.