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Middle-Earth => Chamber of Mazarbul => Topic started by: Not a Zombie on July 26, 2011, 10:16:10 AM

Title: A ring
Post by: Not a Zombie on July 26, 2011, 10:16:10 AM
•The One Ring, Bilbo's Ring
Strength: +1
Vitality: +1
Maneuver: Wear The One Ring until the regroup phase.
While wearing The One Ring and you can spot another companion, the ringbearer may not be assigned to a skirmish.
While the ringbearer is wearing The One Ring, each time he or she is about to take a wound, add a burden instead and each time another companion loses a skirmish add a burden or exert the ringbearer.

This is about flavor more than usefulness. Basically, when Bilbo used the ring, it was to avoid fighting altogether, but then he had to watch his friends get beat up.
Title: Re: A ring
Post by: macheteman on July 26, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
i think it should be "each time another companion loses a skirmish, add three burdens"

since it only takes effect when wearing the one ring, and since it is a burden for bilbo to see his friends lose, it should be a hefty price to pay for having no fear of the ring-bearer dying.
Title: Re: A ring
Post by: FM on July 26, 2011, 01:21:20 PM
This is about flavor more than usefulness. Basically, when Bilbo used the ring, it was to avoid fighting altogether, but then he had to watch his friends get beat up.

And this made having to bear the Ring harder for him because...?
Title: Re: A ring
Post by: leokula on July 26, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
Well it's a burden for him to watch his friends fight and lose and all... but it's cool that he doesn't skirmish at all while there's a companion other than him.
Title: Re: A ring
Post by: Thranduil on July 26, 2011, 02:18:00 PM
I suppose you could argue that the flavour of putting on the ring while skirmishing is in itself that you're getting away from the fight. For example, Boromir attacks Frodo, and he puts on the One Ring, which gets him out of the fight but whittles away at his resistance—exactly as the Ring does in the game now. And you could argue that the way Bilbo uses the ring is also represented by, say, the Ruling Ring. Bilbo is drawing the Mirkwood Spiders away from the Dwarves, so this represented by him being assigned to skirmish one of the Spiders, and again will take some burdens simply because he's using the ring (even if that's not a problem in The Hobbit) or because he's trying his best to remain hidden while still chucking stones and such.

So while I appreciate what you're trying to do, it doesn't seem to me that the flavour as it stands now is much of a stretch.

Thran
Title: Re: A ring
Post by: azogsbane on July 26, 2011, 02:42:54 PM
macheteman is right. There needs to be a huge cost for being able to make your ring-bearer invulnerable at will.
Title: Re: A ring
Post by: FM on July 27, 2011, 11:55:47 AM
Well it's a burden for him to watch his friends fight and lose and all...

Yes, exactly. But how does that translate in getting harder and harder to put on the Ring? Maybe he's thinking "you know, I could take some fighting lessons to help them not get beat up instead of doind this 'invisible' thing...", sure, but that does not represent a toil in wearing the ring over and over and over again. He suffers when he wears the Ring, but not in any way in relation to it, more in relation to his all-around uselessness.