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Title: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Arcanite on August 04, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Hi there, this is my first post here with a deck inspired by the Faramir Starter Deck (Ents of Fangorn)

Bearer and Ring:
Frodo, Tired Traveler (4C302) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04302.html)
The One Ring, Answer to all Riddles (4R1) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04001.html)

Sites:
1) Steps of Edoras (7U334) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07334.html)
2) West Road (7U337) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07337.html)
3) Beacon of Minas Tirith (7U338) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07338.html)
4) Anudin Banks (7U341) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07341.html)
5) Crashed Gate (8U119) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR08119.html)
6) Minas Tirith Sixth Circle (7U351) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07351.html)
7) Ruined Capitol (7U355) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07355.html)
8) Doesn't matter
9) Dagorlad (7U360) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR07360.html)

Free Peoples: (35)
Companions: (10)
2x Faramir, Captain of Gondor (4R116) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04116.html) (Starting)
3x Ranger of Ithilien (4C130) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04130.html) (1x Starting)
3x Gondorian Ranger (4C122) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04122.html)
2x Malblung Soldier of Gondor (4U127) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04127.html)

Possesions: (10)
1x Faramir's Bow (4R118) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04118.html)
1x Faramir's Cloak (4R119) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04119.html)
3x Ranger's Bow (4C131) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04131.html)
4x Sword of Gondor (4C134) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04134.html)
1x Boromir's Gauntlets (4C112) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04112.html)

Conditions: (7)
3x Ancient Roads (6R126) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR06126.html)
1x Boromir, My Brother (4U111) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04111.html)
1x Saga of Elendil (1R114) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01114.html)
2x Citadel of Minas Tirith (3R40) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR03040.html)

Events: (8)
2x New Errand (4C128) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04128.html)
4x Swordsman of the Northern Kingdom (1C117) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR01117.html)
2x Arrows thick in the Air (4U110) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR04110.html)

Shadow: (35)

Minions: (18)
2x Sharku, Warg Captain (5R58)
2x Saruman, Master of the Foul Folk (5R56)
2x Foul Horde (5R50)
4x Isengard Scout Troop (5U55)
4x Warg Master (5C66)
2x Warg Rider (5C67)
2x Isengard Rider (5C53)

Posessions: (12)
4x Isengard Scimitar (5U54)
2x Sharku's Warg (5R59) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR05059.html)
3x War-Warg (5U64) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR05064.html)
3x Warg (5C65) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR05065.html)

Conditions: (2)
2x Wolves of Isengard (5R69) (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR05069.html)

Events: (3)
3x Wolf-Voices (http://lotrtcgdb.com/pages/LOTR05068.html)
Strategy:

Make minions roam in the Skirmish phase, so that they can be killed off by Arrows Thick in the Air, New Errand, Ranger's Bows, and Malblung, or beaten by your Sword of Gondor Bearing Faramir or Rangers of Ithilien. The Minions are made roaming by ideally Ancient Roads, with Gondorian Rangers and Faramir's Cloak for decks using Saruman's Power.

Warg Riders can Overwhelm fellowships with force, or Swarm. Wolves of Isengard + Isengard Scout Troop + Isengard Scimitar make for a good swarm, as lts of twilight is added! Wargs buff strength, and increase likelihood of Fierce minions!
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Haszor on August 04, 2011, 10:11:28 AM
Here's what I'd do
-1 Faramir, Captain of Gondor
-1 Ranger of Ithilien
-1 Anborn, Skilled Huntsman
-2 Gondorian Ranger
-2 Madril, Faramir's Aid
+2 Mablung, Soldier of Gondor
-1 Faramir's Cloak
-1 Faramir's Bow
+1 Sword of Gondor
+1 Ranger's Bow
+1 Boromir's Gauntlets
-2 Second Level
-2 Third Level
+2 Ancient Roads
-2 New Errand
-2 Might of Numenor
-2 What Are They
+2 Swordsman of the Northern Kingdom
+2 Arrows Thick in the Air
+1 Boromir, My Brother
maybe +1 Saga of Elendil
This is cutting a good number of cards.  I might keep a few of the ones that I cut out but for the most part their not that important.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 04, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
Here's what I'd do
-1 Faramir, Captain of Gondor (Nope, Heaing, and can be discarded with Madril)
-1 Ranger of Ithilien (Yeah makes sense)
-1 Anborn, Skilled Huntsman (Maybe, although I want to draw him early, and can always be discarded)
-2 Gondorian Ranger (I'll replace 1 for an ancient roads, I'm just concerned that i rely on the conditions...)
-2 Madril, Faramir's Aid (No way, this is great imo)
+2 Mablung, Soldier of Gondor (Don't like him, not strong enough to win without a lot of assistance)
-1 Faramir's Cloak (OK)
-1 Faramir's Bow (Nah, too good, and again, I want to draw this early)
+1 Sword of Gondor (OK, I put three as space saving originally)
+1 Ranger's Bow (Nope, as I'm keeping the Faramir's Bow)
+1 Boromir's Gauntlets (Nah, removing one twilight isn't that great)
-2 Second Level (Not sure)
-2 Third Level (Not sure)
+2 Ancient Roads (just one)
-2 New Errand (I can wound a different minion to set up a quick kill with madril)
-2 Might of Numenor (OK)
-2 What Are They (Too important IMO)
+2 Swordsman of the Northern Kingdom (OK)
+2 Arrows Thick in the Air (Nah)
+1 Boromir, My Brother (Nah)
maybe +1 Saga of Elendil (It's not important enough)
This is cutting a good number of cards.  I might keep a few of the ones that I cut out but for the most part their not that important.

Replies in Bold
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: LOTRFreak15 on August 04, 2011, 12:33:44 PM
Give Mablung SOG a Rangers Bow and he do some damage.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 04, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
Derp, didn't realise that! Bye bye Madril! Is there any good healing for him?

I'm thinking Warg Riders for Shadow!
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: LOTRFreak15 on August 04, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
You could put 2-3 copies in and even give him Saga of Elendil.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Ringbearer on August 04, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
Well, if its too big, cut down that second Faramir. Either start and play 1, or.... just start and play 1. You dont need the merchant, so it can go, a well as the 3rd level. 4 ancient roads are enough, even with 3 out the only thing not roaming is a nazgul or dunleding.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: azogsbane on August 04, 2011, 05:57:26 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eregion's Trails only affects minions that are roaming in the maneuver phase (when the card is played). Therefore it cards like Ancient Roads would have no effect on it and it would only work as long as minions are roaming "naturally." That's such a short period of the game most of the time that I don't think it's worth using.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: legolas3333 on August 04, 2011, 06:08:23 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eregion's Trails only affects minions that are roaming in the maneuver phase (when the card is played). Therefore it cards like Ancient Roads would have no effect on it and it would only work as long as minions are roaming "naturally." That's such a short period of the game most of the time that I don't think it's worth using.

He's right, you can drop those and the Anborn for more Gondorian Rangers, they're better than ancient roads in that you can use Arrows Thick In The Air and hit all minions.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Haszor on August 04, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
The thing with Boromir's Gauntlets is that if a shadow player uses all the pool to throw sauron at you you can get away with only 2 exerts as opposed to 2 dead comps.  Boromir, My Brother is nice to help you get that one more strength you need to win and it helps you cycle and gives Faramir an extra health.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 05, 2011, 02:07:59 AM
You could put 2-3 copies in and even give him Saga of Elendil.

Yeah, Saga is looking Good the more i think about it.

Well, if its too big, cut down that second Faramir. Either start and play 1, or.... just start and play 1. You dont need the merchant, so it can go, a well as the 3rd level. 4 ancient roads are enough, even with 3 out the only thing not roaming is a nazgul or dunleding.

The Third levels can be cut, i realise that a combination of ancient roads and gondorian rangers will be enough to make them roam.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eregion's Trails only affects minions that are roaming in the maneuver phase (when the card is played). Therefore it cards like Ancient Roads would have no effect on it and it would only work as long as minions are roaming "naturally." That's such a short period of the game most of the time that I don't think it's worth using.

Was wondering about this myself, I think you are right!
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 05, 2011, 02:12:40 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eregion's Trails only affects minions that are roaming in the maneuver phase (when the card is played). Therefore it cards like Ancient Roads would have no effect on it and it would only work as long as minions are roaming "naturally." That's such a short period of the game most of the time that I don't think it's worth using.

He's right, you can drop those and the Anborn for more Gondorian Rangers, they're better than ancient roads in that you can use Arrows Thick In The Air and hit all minions.

Yes, Gondorian Rangers are Superior to Anborn, Not sure on arrows thick in the air, I'll have to think about it.

The thing with Boromir's Gauntlets is that if a shadow player uses all the pool to throw sauron at you you can get away with only 2 exerts as opposed to 2 dead comps.  Boromir, My Brother is nice to help you get that one more strength you need to win and it helps you cycle and gives Faramir an extra health.

That also makes sense, as Faramir is the main powerhouse.

I just realised that what are they doesn't work in the same vein as Eregion's travels.

I will update with changes momentarily.

Changes:
(-10)
-2 Anborn
-1 Gondorin Merchant
-2 Third Level
-2 What are they?
-3 Eregion's travels

(+8)
+1 Ancient Roads
+2 Gondorian Rangers (Need these Vs. Saruman's Power)
+2 Arrows thick in the Air (Twilight cost isn't a problem)
+1 Boromir, My Brother
+1 Boromir's Gauntlets
+1 Saga of Elendil
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: macheteman on August 05, 2011, 04:29:09 AM
why don't you start a mablung so you can reduce the card count? or throw in something useful?
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 05, 2011, 04:47:26 AM
Because he is most useful on Big Minions, wherad Early game Faramir and Ranger of Ithilien are 9 and 8 strength with no help.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: SomeRandomDude on August 05, 2011, 08:14:25 AM
4x Citadel of Minas Tirith.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 05, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
Maybe 2, I'll cut a single ancient roads for them, 35, is not too big. Would Curse them be good?
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: LOTRFreak15 on August 05, 2011, 01:28:04 PM
I wouldn't put it in. Becasue then you'll have to either take something else out or you'll deck will get to big.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: (Currently FP only)
Post by: Arcanite on August 06, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
I've added the shadow, designed for versatility, it can swarm, or it can crush!
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Alzarac on January 03, 2012, 07:23:20 AM
I agree with SomeRandomDude about Citadel of Minas Tirith.  My favorite deck has always been the rangers, and that card was always one of the most important.  Ranger's Bow exerts a lot, as does Mablung SOG.  This card counters that problem.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Arcanite on January 03, 2012, 10:19:18 AM
Thanks, but i don't use this deck anymore!
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Imrahil on January 03, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
Too bad, I used a variation of this deck in a three person game last night (I tend to refer to them as "battles", which is the Grade 5 Pokémon addict in me).  I was trying to get away with an additional 2x Saruman, SotE, a dash of Saruman's Power, and 4x Men Will Fall instead of Wolf Voice.

It failed utterly since Saruman didn't show till 6, but I found it to be an interesting twist.  Did you ever have much success with wargs when you did play them? 
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Arcanite on January 04, 2012, 08:58:23 AM
No, warg's aren't strong enough for two cards. The best use imo is a warg master and war warg splash in isengard orc wounding.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Hobbitonstilts on January 04, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
I might try putting in a couple of wizards storm if your playing multiplayer. Just to make it interesting.
Also might think about discarding a warg from hand as you reconcile if you have a warg master and a warg in hand. You'll get to pull it right back out next turn and an extra card is always nice have. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Hobbitonstilts on January 04, 2012, 11:57:15 PM
Although from my experence warg riders never really preformed as well as other shadows. More of a just for fun kinda thing.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Invincible on January 05, 2012, 04:41:45 AM
Even as a splash in an isengard orc deck, warg master + warg costs 5 for a 9 strenght 3 vitality fierce minion and you need 2 cards, so my advice is splash ulaire enquea, lieutenant of morgul x2 instead.
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Arcanite on January 05, 2012, 08:50:28 AM
yes, but they don't need to be in hand, you can use gnawing, hacking, biting burning
Title: Re: Roam with the Rangers: Warg Rider Shadow!
Post by: Hobbitonstilts on January 05, 2012, 09:33:14 AM
They can be nice in skirmish event heavy fellowships but there are just better uses for the twilight in most cases. The stat boosts give them more of a chance to survive to the regroup but that's only one guy for the price of two. Giving you less chance of inflicting heavy wounding or swarming.