The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Chamber of Mazarbul => Topic started by: menace64 on August 18, 2011, 09:02:09 PM
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Although I still haven't made up my mind on the Tatooine culture's icon (nor have I created a Creature template or sites), I'd like to show off where my creative energies have been spent these last few days.
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That there is the Alliance side of the Fringe culture. And below is an example of the Shadow side. I deliberately made their color schemes a bit wonky - it's not so easy to distinguish between sides, unlike the Gollum culture. It's probably ultimately a design mistake (for beginners), but singe this culture is about ruffians and scoundrels and striding the grey line between good and bad, I didn't want either cultural side to scream I'M GOOD or I'M BAD. Also, I'd like to note that the Alliance side of this culture wound up resembling the Dwarven culture purely by coincidence. I used Han's outfit as a basis, and it's just the way things worked out lol.
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I think this is my favorite color scheme of them all. It just reeks of Imperial precision. Mind you that this is an example of an artifact, so that isn't the normal coloration for the culture icon!
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Ditto for this guy, a blank follower template for the Jedi culture. I went into this one expecting to use mostly browns, but since I'd used browns to death already for Fringe, I wasn't too sure what to do. But once I had the culture icon made, I decided to just continue drawing from Obi-Wan's lightsaber and go completely blue. It looks fantastic, I think.
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One major drawback of being an unofficial card designer is that I don't have access to crisp movie stills with which to populate my blank templates. I'll end up downloading an HD version of the trilogy and hand-pick images on my own, but for now I'm just pouring into what I can find on google. Anywho, this is the Rebellion culture, and it also surprised me to end up with predominantly purple. It doesn't quite look right for the rebels, but I reckon it'll grow on me. EDIT: Brightened the coloration quite a bit, while darkening the culture icon.
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Aaaand here's the Sith template. Not really much to say here except I followed my own lead and took color inspiration from Vader's lightsaber, throwing out some errant reds to help make the card pop.
Hopefully I'll get a great idea for Tatooine in the next day or two... it's killing me to not have anything to show for it.
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For Tattoine, maybe a setting sun, so a half circle with a smaller one in the background. If not that, then maybe Jabba or a Jawa.
For the Jedi, a hooded face, but not Sith looking?
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The Sith symbol is actually more than just any old sith symbol. It is the symbol of Naga Sadow's house. He was a very powerful sith sorcerer. Very important in the development of the Sith order
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The Sith symbol is actually more than just any old sith symbol. It is the symbol of Naga Sadow's house. He was a very powerful sith sorcerer. Very important in the development of the Sith order
I picked it solely for its resemblance to the [Wraith] symbol ;D
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The Jedi symbol could be a lightsaber, I think. Surely, it's more iconic to the Jedi than the Sith? I think the association would be fairly simple. Either that or a Yoda. :P
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go look on wookipedia. they have all kinds of symbols on that website
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The Jedi symbol could be a lightsaber, I think. Surely, it's more iconic to the Jedi than the Sith? I think the association would be fairly simple. Either that or a Yoda. :P
The problem with using Yoda is that he doesn't exist yet in my pretend-chronology. I'm designing sets as if the movies are only now releasing, in order to help deliver that creative naivety. I'll look into using a lightsaber, but I can already say that it'll be tough to pull off.
Still not sure what to do about the Tatooine culture. I can't use Jabba or, say, a Jawa (even though I tried both) because there's an Alliance side to the culture as well.
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How about a sand helmet complete with goggles, something resembling the new Uruk culture?
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Here are few different takes on the same idea. I merely wove together two iterations of the letter 'T' from the Aurebesh (Star Wars alphabet), symbolizing Tatoo One and Tatoo Two, the binary stars orbited by Tatooine.
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Let me know if you favor one more than another, or if they're all rubbish. Personally I like the 3rd one the best.
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Here are few different takes on the same idea. I merely wove together two iterations of the letter 'T' from the Aurebesh (Star Wars alphabet), symbolizing Tatoo One and Tatoo Two, the binary stars orbited by Tatooine.
Let me know if you favor one more than another, or if they're all rubbish. Personally I like the 3rd one the best.
Good idea. I like #3 best.
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I think that's a cool idea. #2 is best. When their made into silhouettes 1 and 3 will no longer look like two 't's at all, but I think 2 still will.
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I'd also associate a lightsaber (if even just the handle) with Jedi. Other ideas are a star reminiscent of the current Jedi Order symbol (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_order) (or just think [Gondor]), and a 2D/3D design reminiscent of the Jedi holocrons (http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b7/HolocronsPotJ.JPG).
For the Tatooine icons, I think I'd prefer the "complete" form of #3. I'd be tempted to trim the bits sticking out in #1, and #2 looks odd to me with the 'T' arms not quite meeting.
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I like nuber 1 the best. 3's ok. And 2 is good but kinda weird how they cross.
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I'd also associate a lightsaber (if even just the handle) with Jedi. Other ideas are a star reminiscent of the current Jedi Order symbol (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_order) (or just think [Gondor]), and a 2D/3D design reminiscent of the Jedi holocrons (http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b7/HolocronsPotJ.JPG).
Well you win the cake for inspiring me to combine both the elements of the Jedi Order symbol (an image I had already discarded) and a lightsaber hilt (Obi-Wan's, no less!).
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It's kind of hard to make out there but it'll look better once it's stuck onto a card template!
I'm still not very convinced about the Tatooine culture icon. None of them really match up in quality to the others I've designed... hmmm...
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Argh seeing as I couldn't log in I wasn't able to post earlier.
But I think the NOJ symbol is way awesomer for the jedi culture!
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Sorry Doom, but my mind is already settled onto an icon for the Jedi!
Also, check out the first post. Many new sights to see!
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Also, check out the first post. Many new sights to see!
Nice. The Sith template looks... Sithy. They do like reds.
Potential tweaks:
- Should the symbols on the templates have some kind of outline or shadow? Seems the Fringe symbol especially is in danger of blending in with the template.
- I'm wondering how the Jedi symbol would look with the lightsaber pointing up. Down implies to me a position of rest, while up might mean a position of guard. Also, how would it look with the blade thicker? Good effect, though; I like how the smaller version looks like a star.
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Hmm, the lime green/purple combo on the rebellion doesn't jive with me. Maybe switching the circle to red, or moving from lime to a little darker green and changing the purple to blue/teal? The symbol looks good, I'm just questioning the colors. Great work!
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I really like the Jedi and Sith templates. Not too keen on the Rebellion one. The colors I would have expected are white and orange.
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- Should the symbols on the templates have some kind of outline or shadow? Seems the Fringe symbol especially is in danger of blending in with the template.
I might play around with some outlines. At this point it would be a lot of work - darkening/brightening them would be easier.
- I'm wondering how the Jedi symbol would look with the lightsaber pointing up. Down implies to me a position of rest, while up might mean a position of guard. Also, how would it look with the blade thicker? Good effect, though; I like how the smaller version looks like a star.
Originally it was positioned with the saber pointing up, but the big problem there is that the hilt sticks out into the picture, and since the hilt is colored it really clashed with pictures I used on the cards.
Not too keen on the Rebellion one. The colors I would have expected are white and orange.
Yeah I just spent like an hour shifting the color scheme around. I realized that it was just too dark, so I brightened all the colors (except for the culture icon, which got darker). It's not white yet, but it's as close as I'm comfortable pushing it. The oranges stand out better now.
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This is very interesting. On one hand, I find it very cool to see these cards sort of crammed into the LOTR gameplay format. On the other hand, as a former SW:TCG player, I feel like the mechanics of LOTR do not fit the Star Wars universe at all whatsoever.
The novelty is certainly amusing, though.
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It's awesome that you liked Wizard's game, but I think the LotR TCG engine works better for Star Wars than the SWTCG engine ever did. I tried for so long to get into that game... it just didn't feel like a Star Wars game, really. There are a few issues with this particular crossover (starships being the glaring one, an issue solved intuitively by SWTCG's design), but by and large it's fun and satisfying to work my favorite science fiction story into my favorite card game.
You should definitely check out the entirety of the first set ;). Lots of goodies there!
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Added a bunch more Imperial cards. Stormtrooper Fanatic is unique; I'll fix that tomorrow!