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Title: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 06, 2011, 12:03:41 PM
Hello my friends. Accept sugestions for improves... (my english is pretty bad hehe)

35 CARDS

STARTER FELLOWSHIP:

Gimli, Bearer of Grudges with One ring, answer to all riddles
Dain Ironfoot, King Under the Mountain
Brand, King of Dale

ALLYS:

1X Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor
1X Albert Dreary, Entertainer From Bree
1X Ottar, Man of Laketown
1X Jarnsmid, Merchant from Dale
1X Hugin, Emissary from Laketown
1X Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
1X Erland, Advisor to Brand

COMPANIONS:

2X Gandalf, Manager of Wizards
1X Grimbeorn, Beorning Chieftain

EQUIPAMENTS

2X Beorning Axe
1X Axe of Erebor
1X Gimli's Battle Axe, Vicious Weapon
2X Hand Axe


EVENTS

4X Guidance of the Istari
3X A Wizard Is Never Late


CONDITIONS

3X Last Stand
2X Dwarven Skill
1X Book of Mazarbul
2X Dwarven Heart
2X Watch and Wait
1X Brooding on Tomorrow
1X Stalwart Support
1X Hall of Our Fathers

36 cards

Basicaly, I will use de sinergy between Dain and Brend to increase de dwarves power and discard both race conditions  to double move. Dain, reduces the pay of my mens, almost all ally are putting on the table for zero cost

Jarnsmid, Merchant from Dale reduces the cost of my axes.

The main strategy consiste to put gandalf on the table more fast as possible to play all my Allys; so, I can use
Last Stand and Guidance of the Istari to pump up the atack of my fellows. For each exert, I can put 2 token on last stand, so, I exert all my allys and Grimbeon (he is self-healling! YES!) to improve more and more my power.
Elrond Heal my Allys, helping the deck mecanic. Guidance of the Istari can improve  at +8 in my power

The other cards help to cicle my hand and remove burdens
besides,  my conditions can be discarted to double movies!

What you thing about this deck?
Sugestions PLEASE!

Thanks my friends!
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: Invincible on November 07, 2011, 03:59:02 AM
Book of mazarbul only works in fellowship block, I would replace it for ring of fury so that you can play it on Gimli. Otherwise I think this deck is amazing.
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: Haszor on November 07, 2011, 06:54:56 AM
^^ and what shadow are you using?  You're gonna need something with good stopping power, cause when they see this thing, unless they're really good, they're gonna make a run for it.
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: Not a Zombie on November 07, 2011, 08:33:19 AM
I'd drop Hall of our Fathers and Book of Mazarbul for two more Elrond, LoR. He'll help you cycle and you want to draw him to keep your allies healed.
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: hsiale on November 07, 2011, 08:49:48 AM
Even 3 more Elronds would not be too much, but this card is on Expanded format R-list.
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 07, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
Even 3 more Elronds would not be too much, but this card is on Expanded format R-list.
I Can use only 1 Elrond in this format!
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 07, 2011, 12:28:16 PM
^^ and what shadow are you using?  You're gonna need something with good stopping power, cause when they see this thing, unless they're really good, they're gonna make a run for it.
I´ll gona use a TENTACLE DECK! I can post it here if you can!
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 07, 2011, 12:29:39 PM
Book of mazarbul only works in fellowship block, I would replace it for ring of fury so that you can play it on Gimli. Otherwise I think this deck is amazing.
I´ll remove the book, but a needed trade with a CONDITION... because, conditions can be discarted to make double moves! What you suggest?
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: NappyKorn on November 07, 2011, 12:39:12 PM
Well Book of Mazarbul isn't a condition anyway, its a possession.

NK
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 07, 2011, 12:41:44 PM
Well Book of Mazarbul isn't a condition anyway, its a possession.

NK
FACE PALM! kkkk you´re alright! anyway... any suggestions?
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: hsiale on November 07, 2011, 03:35:55 PM
You don't need that many of those conditions anyway :) You can't do more than 4 double move during a game.

I would remove:
- Book of Mazarbul
- 2x Dwarven Skill (you have Last Stand)
- 1x Watch and Wait
- Hall of Our Fathers
- Gimli's Battle Axe, Vicious Weapon (not much use of it on Dain)

This gives 6 free places. I'd add Pallando, Glamdring, Foe-hammer (replaces Watch and Wait additionally pumping Gandalf), some non-unique axe for Dain (Axe of Khazad-dum if your adventure path has many mountains, Dwarven Axe otherwise), another Stalwart Support (free condition, perfect to discard with Dain), Radagast, The Brown (move limit can really save you from time to time) and Ring of Fury (2 extra resistance never hurts if you use alternate ring-bearer). Also I feel that The One Ring, Ring of Rings can be a better choice for this deck than the one you use.

Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 08, 2011, 06:01:17 AM
COOL!
I´ve liked you ideas!
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 08, 2011, 06:05:50 AM
Deck with modifications!:


STARTER FELLOWSHIP
1 Gimli, Bearer of Grudges with One ring, The ring of rings   
1 Dain Ironfoot, King Under the Mountain   
1 Brand, King of Dale   
   
FELLOWSHIP   
ALLYS   
1 Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor   
1 Albert Dreary, Entertainer From Bree   
1 Ottar, Man of Laketown   
1 Jarnsmid, Merchant from Dale   
1 Hugin, Emissary from Laketown   
1 Erland, Advisor to Brand   
1 Elrond, Lord of Rivendell

   
COMPANIONS   
2 Gandalf, Returned   
1 Grimbeorn, Beorning Chieftain   
1 Radagast, The Brown   
   
EQUIPAMENTS   
2 Beorning Axe   
2 Axe of Khazad-dum   
1 Gandalf's Staff, Ash-Staff    
1 Shadowfax, Roaring Wind   
1 Glamdring, Foe-hammer   
1 Gandalf´s hat   
   
EVENTS   
4 Guidance of the Istari    
2 A Wizard Is Never Late   
   
CONDITIONS   
3 Last Stand   
1 Brooding on Tomorrow   
2 Stalwart Support   
2 Dwarven Heart   
   
ARTEFATS   
1 Ring of fury   



Shadows:
TENTACLES...I post here after...
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: hsiale on November 08, 2011, 08:29:45 AM
Gandalf, Returned fits this deck definitely better than Manager of Wizards. But on the other hand Brooding on Tomorrow definitely is no longer the way to go and should be replaced by Pallando, Far-travelling One. Or a few Blood Runs Chill (though to go this way you'd need to focus the deck way more on the [Dwarven] side and I'm not sure if it's worth it).

If you want to use Gandalf's Hat, you definitely need way better burden removal. Not only Glamdring, Foe-hammer, but also at least two Watch and Wait (or replacing Glamdring, Foe-hammer and Shadowfax, Roaring Wind by Narya and Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas). Your ring-bearer has at most 9 resistance, that's not a lot if you want to add any burdens by yourself.
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: walyn on November 08, 2011, 09:25:20 AM
Gandalf, Returned fits this deck definitely better than Manager of Wizards. But on the other hand Brooding on Tomorrow definitely is no longer the way to go and should be replaced by Pallando, Far-travelling One. Or a few Blood Runs Chill (though to go this way you'd need to focus the deck way more on the [Dwarven] side and I'm not sure if it's worth it).

If you want to use Gandalf's Hat, you definitely need way better burden removal. Not only Glamdring, Foe-hammer, but also at least two Watch and Wait (or replacing Glamdring, Foe-hammer and Shadowfax, Roaring Wind by Narya and Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas). Your ring-bearer has at most 9 resistance, that's not a lot if you want to add any burdens by yourself.

Gandalf´s hat it´s looks more a emergencial like in a triple final move strike, por exemple.

And yep, I´ll replace Broonding on by Pallando, I´ve just forget to trade here!

THANKS!
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: Yrael on November 21, 2011, 10:46:44 AM
You are already going to get quite a few tokens on Final Stand, so I would suggest switching in Gandalf, Leader of the Company. He has slightly better combat capabilities than Gandalf, Returned, and he is better support for your fellowship. Finally, I would try very, very hard to include Librarian, Keeper of Ancient Texts. With all the tokens you will be getting, you are guarenteed to get that 2 bonus strength for all your men.

As for shadow suggestions, I like running  [Men] archery with my  [Gandalf] Men, since many [Men] minions have higher strength. Grimbeorn can really save your #$&*@! simply by discarding a few strong minions.
Title: Re: Dwarven & Gandalf men - Original - Kings Fellowship
Post by: Yrael on November 26, 2011, 11:03:05 AM
Keep in mind, Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor, and Albert Dreary have a home site of 1, so they are not healed by Elrond. I would suggest keeping Barliman to pull AWINL from your discard pile, but drop Albert in favor of something else.