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Title: The Rule of Four and Infinite Loops
Post by: TelTura on March 15, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
So I was poking around one of the Star Trek CCG websites while gathering information for my card maker, and stumbled across a comprehensive rules listing.  I noted a lot of similarities to LotR-TCG, which is natural, being as both games were run by Decipher, but I noted their version of the Rule of Four: (http://www.trekcc.org/op/1e_revised_v8.pdf)

Quote from: trekcc.org
1. RULE OF FOUR
No more than 4 copies of any card may be included
in a deck. The game text on any card can not be
used more than 4 times during a single turn.

And I thought, that's a rather ingenious way to shut down infinite loops and heavily-abused cards (coughcoughcough birthday present coughcoughcough).  Was there ever a reason or a counter-example as to why it was not adopted in the LotR-TCG?  It seems like an elegant solution to a number of problems.
Title: Re: The Rule of Four and Infinite Loops
Post by: Yrael on March 16, 2012, 08:07:49 AM
Because removing tokens for cards such as noble leaders and heirs of gondor counts as well. It would shut down some freeps boosting methods pretty badly IMO.
Title: Re: The Rule of Four and Infinite Loops
Post by: TelTura on March 16, 2012, 04:37:06 PM
That's +8 from one card and +4/damage +4 from the other.  Mayhaps I just don't know much about reinforcement, but that still seems like reasonable influence from a single card.

Perhaps the LotR version would state "The game text on any card can not be
used more than 4 times during a single phase."
?
Title: Re: The Rule of Four and Infinite Loops
Post by: Not a Zombie on March 16, 2012, 05:33:11 PM
Probably cause it is a pain in the butt to keep track of. It wouldn't be hard with a program like gemp, but IRL it would be awful.
Title: Re: The Rule of Four and Infinite Loops
Post by: Ringbearer on March 17, 2012, 06:18:13 PM
I use my rank and file response more than 4 times a pahse usually.