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Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: Air Power on February 17, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
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Good news, everyone!
I recently found a store with some LotR product on a shelf, so I bought it. My haul:
TT anthology
RotEL packs: 15
TT packs: 31
EoF packs: 37
MD packs: 25
Cost: $120 (US)
I don't consider it an amazing deal, but a little better than online prices.
Inspired by this wealth of packs, I'm bringing back a Pack a Day: I'll open a pack each day and post what I get. Expect the Sunday double-pack post shortly.
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Pack 1: starting strong with a RotEF pack
Frodo's Pipe
Uruk Ravager
Isengard Retainer
Betrayal of Isengard
The Shire Countryside foil 8-)
Frying Pan
Might of Numenor
Seek and Hide
Isengard Axe
One of You Must Do This
Fireworks
Sunday Double-pack: MD
Brooding on Tomorrow
Black Marshal
Cursed of Erech
Easterling Berserker
Southron Savage
Gorgoroth Swarm
Last Throw
A Marvel
Ten Times Outnumbered
Mordor Brute
Dead Man of Dunharrow
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Nice foil! I will be interested to know how many foils you pull out of all those packs. 108 packs should get you at least 10 foils I'm thinking.
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Foils speculation: 10 seems rather low, as the packs claim an incidence of 1 foil per 6 packs, which would suggest (108/6) 18 foils. Now since these were loose packs, it is possible someone scaled them and picked out the packs with foils, but I'm hoping for at least 16 foils.
Total foil-count: 1
Pack 3: TT
Southron Commander
Uruk Camp
Weland
Lieutenant of Orthanc
Easterling Axeman
Work for the Sword
Ferocity
Haldir eotg
Hillman Tribe
New Errand
Uruk Foot Soldier
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Total foil-count: 1
Pack 4: TT
Rohirrim Village
Arrows Thick in the Air
Advance Uruk Patrol
My Axe is Notched
Dunlending Ravager
Flashing Steel
Orthanc Warrior
Brace of Coneys
Gathering to the Summons
Eomer SSoT
Unferth GB
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Pack 5: TT
Band of Uruk Bowmen
Western Emyn Muil
Stout and Strong
Killing Field
Warmed up a Bit
Grima SoG
Theoden SoT
Anger
Aragorn HoE
Uruk-hai Patrol
Best Company
Total foil-count: 1
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Pack 6: EoF
Meduseld
Peril
Blood Has Been Spilled
Fires and Foul Fumes
Suspended Palaces
Banner of the Eye
Kept Safe
Dunlending Elder
Treebeard GotF
Isengard Plodder
Mortal Men
Total foil-count:1
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Pack 7: EoF
Westfold
Lend Us Your Aid
Too Long Have These Peasants Stood
Easterling Army
Kept Safe
Hrethel RoR
Dunlending Reserve
Ent Moot
Banner of Isengard
Suspended Palaces
Rohirrim Traitor
Total foil-count: 1
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Pack 8: MD
Reclaim the Precious
Base of Mindolluin
Aegnor EE
Gollum MT
Every Little is a Gain
Make Haste
Chance Observation
Dead Man of Dunharrow
Swarming Like Beetles
Fleet-Footed
End of the Game
Total Foil-count: 1
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Pack 9: EoF
Meduseld
Host of Fangorn
Must be a Dream
Southron Archer Legion
Mortal Men
Gollum OV
Treebeard GotF
YaLaaT
We Left None Alive
Dunlending Headman
Long Slow Wrath
Pack 10: TT
The Riddermark
Wizardry Indeed
Brought Back Alive
Constantly Threatening
Supporting Fire
Band of Wild Men
Sword of Gondor
Beyond Dark Mountains
Rider of Rohan
Desert Spearman
Here is Good Rock
Total Foil-count: 1
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Delayed due to web issues. Also, I guess my post on Tuesday (packs 11 and 12) was lost in the tubes. Nothing extraordinary anyway. Last three days:
Pack 13: MD
The Ring is Mine
Suffered Much Loss
Corsair Ruffian
Great Day, Great Hour
Flames Within
A Marvel
Last Throw
Swarming Like Beetles
Orc Armor
Unabated in Malice
Gathering Wind
Pack 14: EoF
Rocks of Emyn Muil
Lend Us Your Aid
Must be a Dream
Winged and Ominous
Isengard Artisan
Garrison of Osgiliath
Bound by Rage
Hrethel RoR
Southron Invaders
Don't Follow the Lights
Dunlending Elder
Pack 15: TT
Get Back
Hornburg Armory
Ranger's Sword BoA
Men of Harad
Ferocity
Haldir EotG
Hillman Tribe
New Errand
Uruk Foot Soldier
Guma PF
On the March
Total Foi-count: 1
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Messed up the numbering, but here's yesterday's pack:
Pack 16: EoF
Valley of Saruman
Must Be a Dream
Threw Down My Enemy
Galadriel KoN
Trust
You're a Liar and a Thief
Don't Follow the Lights
Isengard Tinker
Quickbeam Bregalad
Dunlending Footmen
Long Slow Wrath
And the Sunday Double-pack:
Pack 17: EoF
Naith Troop
Gift of Foresight
Assault Ladder
Trample
Mortal Men
Isengard Journeyman
Agility
Nasty, Foul Hobbitses
Anborn SH
Isengard Tinker
Suspended Palaces
Pack 18: EoF
Banner of the Mark
Valley of Saruman
Forearmed
Ring of Barahir
Garrison of Osgiliath
Isengard Plodder
Anborn SH
Dead Ones
Forewarned
Bound by Rage
Not Listening
Total Foil-count: 1
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Pack 19: RotEL
Bill the Pony
House of Elrond
TMaYOD
Citadel of Minas Tirith
Erestor CAtE
Meant to be Alone
Isengard Axe
Orc Guard
They Will Never Stop Hunting You
Deep in Thought
Seek and Hide
Total Foil-count: 1
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Bad luck with the foils since the first pack.
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Bad luck with the foils since the first pack.
For sure. Hard to predict how things will balance out in the end though: I think the first box I did this with had 5 foils in the first half and one in the second half, so there might be a good run later.
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Pack 20: EoF
Isengard Builder
Banner of Elbereth
Gnawing, Biting, Hacking, Burning
Berserk Butcher
Dunlending Footmen
Mortal Men
Isengard Artisan
Roused
Dead Ones
Treebeard GotF
Nasty, Foul Hobbitses
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Pack 21: MD
Cirith Ungol Patroller
Pelennor Prairie
The Ring Is Mine
Gorbag's Sword
Far Harad Mercenaries
Gorgoroth Swarm
Houses of Lamentation
Every Little Is a Gain
Make Haste
Chance Observation
Dead Man of Dunharrow
Total foil-count: just depressing at this point
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I wonder if you got scanned boosters
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That's the reason I stopped buying loose packs early on; you never know.
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I wonder if you got scanned boosters
How does that work?
That's the reason I stopped buying loose packs early on; you never now.
Guessing sealed boxes are safer.
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Foil cards weigh a little more due to the foiling coating. People used micro-scales to pick out the heavier packs and open them for foils.
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Foil cards weigh a little more due to the foiling coating. People used micro-scales to pick out the heavier packs and open them for foils.
That's smart, but sad for others.
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Pack 22:TT
Flanking Attack
King's Room
Pengedhel NW
Race across the Mark
Theoden SoT
Anger
Aragorn HoE
Uruk-hai Patrol
Best Company
Easterling Axeman
Work for the Sword
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Pack 23:EoF
Iron Fist of the Orc
Banner of the Mark
Ulaire Nertea WH
Troll of Udun
Nasty Foul Hobbitses
Ent Moot
Isengard Tinker
Agility
Gollum OV
Long Slow Wrath
Gate Sentry
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Pack 24:TT
Deeping Wall
Store-Room
Ranks without Number
Desert Legion
Heavy Chain
Uruk Spear
Gondorian Ranger
Dunlending Ravager
Flashing Steel
Orthanc Warrior
Brace of Coneys
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Sunday Double-pack:
Pack 25: TT
Ring of Isengard
Well Stored
War Club
Pillage of Rohan
Uruk Besieger
Boromir's Gauntlets
Dark Fury
Ferevellon SoT
Uruk Chaser
Under the Living Earth
Easterling Guard
Pack 26:EoF
Valley of Saruman
Easterling Polearm
Gnawing, Biting, Hacking, Burning
Elrond KoV
Suspended Palaces
Dunlending Reserve
Mortal Men
Gollum OV
Treebeard GotF
You're a Liar and a Thief
We Left None Alive
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Pack 27:MD
Brave and Loyal
Suffered Much Loss
Slunk out of Sight
Gothmog's Warg
Last Throw
Flames Within
Uruk Axe
Make Haste
Corsair Boatswain
Advance Marauder
Southron Fanatic
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Pack 28:MD
Reclaim the Precious
Cursed of Erech
Unyielding
Speak No More to Me
Cirith Ungol Sentry
Under Foot
Cirith Ungol Guard
Every Little Is a Gain
End of the Game
Chance Observation
Advance Marauder
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Pack 29:MD
Narrow Escape
Ruinous Hail
Rallying Call
Seasoned Leader
Window of the Eye
Dead Man of Dunharrow
Barren Land
Ten Times Outnumbered
Cirith Ungol Soldier
Easterling Pillager
Houses of Lamentation
Thanks Ket. I've pretty much given up on foils at this point. Hard to think that this is randomly opening the wrong packs rather than a scaled lot at this point.
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Pack 30:RotEL
Orc Slayer
A Royal Welcome
Isengard Servant
Vilya
Dangerous Gamble
Voice of Nimrodel
Isengard Worker
Erestor CAtE
Isengard Forger
Master of Healing
Abandoning Reason for Madness
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Pack 31:TT
Barrows of Edoras
Roll of Thunder
Down to the Last Child
Into Dark Tunnels
Curse Them
Dunlending Madman
Elven Sword
Uruk Seeker
Gimli UG
Southron Spear
Hobbit Sword
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Pack 32:MD
Cirith Ungol Scavenger
Hardy Garrison
Ulaire Nelya Thrall of the One
Galadriel LR
Advance Marauder
Southron Fanatic
Morgul Banner-Bearer
Barren Land
Great Heart
Beaten Back
Houses of Lamentation
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Sunday Double-Pack:
Pack 33: EoF
Hornburg Hall
Rocks of Emyn Muil
Crack into Rubble
Eomer RC
Wisp of Pale Sheen
Suspended Palaces
Banner of the Eye
Kept Safe
Dunlending Elder
Treebeard GotF
Isengard Plodder
Pack 34:TT
Hornburg Causeway
Leod WH
Arrow from the South
Gandalf Greyhame
Faramir SoD
Dunlending Savage
Khazad Ai-menu
Attack on Helm's Deep
Knocked on the Head
Easterling Infantry
Elite Rider
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Pack 35:TT
Throne Room
Elven Bow
Southron Explorer
Eowyn's Sword
Ferevellon SoT
Uruk Chaser
Under the Living Earth
Easterling Guard
Heavy Chain
Uruk Spear
Gondorian Ranger
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Pack 36:TT
Westemnet Plains
Hard Choice
Many Riddles
Dwarven Foresight
Pathfinder
Cloud of Arrows
Fight for the Villagers
Dunlending Ransacker
Pippin Woolly-footed Rascal
Uruk Regular
Valor
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Pack 38:MD
High Vantage
Narrow Escape
A Light in His Mind
Ulaire Enquea Thrall of the One
Easterling Pillager
Cirith Ungol Guard
Window of the Eye
Beaten Back
Far Harad Mercenaries
Cast unto the Winds
Ten Times Outnumbered
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Pack 39:TT
Horse-Country
Ithilien Trap
Elite Archer
Banished
Uruk Seeker
Gimli Unbidden Guest
Southron Spear
Hobbit Sword
Uruk Rear Guard
Mithrandir, Mithrandir!
Dunlending Warrior
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Pack 40:RotEL
Isengard Smith
Orc Pillager
Orc Slayer
Mines of Khazad-Dum
Meant to be Alone
Orc Swordsman
Hand of Sauron
Depart Silently
The Great River
Storm of Argument
Isengard Worker
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Ulaire Enquea Thrall of the One
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Pack 41:EoF
Ulaire Nertea WH
Assault Ladder
It Burns Us
Hill Clan
Banner of the Eye
Don't Follow the Lights
Corpse Lights
Roused
Dunlending Headman
Naith Longbow
Wisp of Pale Sheen
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Sunday Double-Pack
Pack 41:EoF
Crack into Rubble
Boomed and Trumpeted
Desertion
Fires and Foul Fumes
Dunlending Elder
Treebeard GotF
Isengard Plodder
Mortal Men
Isengard Journeyman
Agility
Nasty, Foul Hobbitses
Pack 42:EoF
Arwen EoHP
Troll's Chain
Assault Ladder
Safe Paths
You're a Liar and a Thief
Don't Follow the Lights
Isengard Tinker
Quickbeam Bregalad
Dunlending Footmen
Long Slow Wrath
Isengard Artisan
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Pack 43:TT
East Wall of Rohan
An Honorable Charge
Uruk Hunter
Southron Bow
Uruk Runner
Eowyn LoR
Hillman Band
Search Far and Wide
Still They Came
Severed His Bonds
Easterling Lieutenant
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Are you still on just one foil?
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Are you still on just one foil?
Yup :-(
Posted early b/c I'm not sure what my internet access will be like later:
Pack 44:RotEL
Galdor CftW
Get off the Road
Isengard Servant
Gift of the Evenstar
Abandoning Reason for Madness
Isengard Forger
Orc Swordsman
Saruman SotE
Hide and Seek
Erestor CAtE
Meant to be Alone
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That's rough!!!!! Hopefully they are all just waiting at the bottom of the pile!
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Pack 45:RotEL
Phial of Galadriel
Bill the Pony
Voice of Rauros
Saruman KoI
Erestor CAtE FOIL
Orc Warrior
Old Noakes PoW
Coming for the Ring
Answering the Cries
Friends of Old
Three Monstrous Trolls
Yay!
Foil count:2
Since both foils so far have been RotEL, I wonder if whoever scaled these packs wasn't interested in that set for some reason.
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Pack 46:TT
Eastmet Downs
Blades Drawn
Uruk Veteran
Leechcraft
Khazad-Ai-Menu
Attack on Helm's Deep
Knocked on the Head
Easterling Infantry
Elite Rider
Uruk Plains Runner
Ranger's Bow
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Yesterday and today:
Pack 47: EoF
Perilous Ventures
Scaffolding
Peril
Berserk Butcher
Roused
Dead Ones
Treebeard GotF
Nasty, Foul Hobbitses
Ent Moot
Isengard Plodder
Not Listening
Pack 48: EoF
Easterling Polearm
Gnawing, Biting, Hacking, Burning
Host of Fangorn
Naith Warband
Ent Avenger
Banner of the Eye
Don't Follow the Lights
Corpse Lights
Roused
Dunlending Headman
Naith Longbow
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Easter Anthology:TT
Tengwar Promos
Draft Pack:
Uruk Defender
Uruk Rear Guard
Orthanc Warrior
Band of Wild Men
Dunlending Savage
Dunlending Robber
Hillman Tribe
Dunlending Brigand
Dunlending Ransacker
Dunlending Madman
Hillman Band
Dunlending Madman
Dunlending Ransacker
Dunlending Brigand
Defend It and Hope
Aragorn HoE
Haldir EotG
Supporting Fire
Lorien Guardsman
Lorien Swordsman
Supporting Fire
Night without End
Elite Rider
Rider's Mount
Eowyn LoR
Gimli UG
Courtesy of My Hall
Best Company
Search Far and Wide
TT:
Feathered
Uruk-Hai Mob
Streets of Edoras
Beyond All Hope
Desert Spearman
Here Is Good Rock
Uruk Beseiger
Boromir's Gauntlets
Dark Fury
Ferevellon SoT
Uruk Chaser
TT:
Weland SotR
Death to the Strawheads
Forests of Ithlien
Gimli UG
Southron Spear
Hobbit Sword
Uruk Rear Guard
Mithrandir, Mithrandir!
Dunlending Warrior
Lorien Swordsman
BoHD:
I'd Make You Squeak
Orc Patrol
Birchseed TS
Leaping Blaze
Gate Soldier
You must Help Us
Gollum NTC
Men of Numenor
Warg-Rider
Rohirrim Shield
Orc Runner
BoHD:
Frodo MotP
More to My Liking
Evil-Smelling Fens
Foul Horde
Let Us Be Swift
Orc Pursuer
Defending the Keep
Warg-Master
Citadel of the Stars
We Must Have It
Rohirrim Bow
EoF:
Gift of Foresight
Assault Ladder
Arwen EohP
Merry IH
Banner of Isengard
Hrethel RoR
Agility
Dunlending Elder
Naith Longbow
Southron Invaders
Ent Avenger
EoF:
Lend Us Your Aid
Must Be a Dream
Host of Fangorn
Don't Look at Them
Ent Avenger
Corpse Lights
Naith Longbow
Dunlending Headman
Forewarned
Banner of Isengard
Smeagol PC
Deck: TT Aragorn
Rares:
Merry UH
Ranged Commander
Wulf DC
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Pack 49:TT
Wold of Rohan
Good Work
Hornburg Causeway
Impatient and Angry
Uruk Rear Guard
Mithrandir, Mithrandir!
Dunlending Warrior
Lorien Swordsman
Weary
Horse of Rohan
Southron Scout
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Sorry for the long delay; I haven't had internet access:
50:TT
Death to the Strawheads
Fortress of Orthanc
Feathered
Eothain SotM
Merry LG
Uruk Stalker
Supporting Fire
Band of Wild Men
Sword of Gondor
Beyond Dark Mountains
Rider of Rohan
51:MD
Fifth Level
Cirith Ungol Watchman
Arwen EoL
Denethor LoMT
End of the Game FOIL
Last Throw
Flames Within
Uruk Axe
Make Haste
Corsair Boatswain
Advance Marauder
52:MD
Reclaim the Precious
Mordor Pillager
Cirith Ungol Patroller
More Yet to Come
Suffered Much Loss FOIL
Last Throw
A Marvel
Ten Times Outnumbered
Mordor Brute
Dead Man of Dunharrow
Swarming Like Beetles
53:RotEL
News of Mordor
Ergion Hills
Calaglin EoL
Orc Commander
Gates of Argonath
Coming for the Ring
Orc Butcher
Master of Healing
Frying Pan
Three Monstrous Trolls
Might of Numenor
54:MD
Ulaire Lemenya Thrall of the One
Steward's Tomb
Brooding on Tomorrow
Gothmog LoM
Gorgoroth Keeper
Easterling Pillager
Cirith Ungol Soldier
Uruk Axe
Cirith Ungol Warrior
Gathering Wind
Orc Armor
55:TT
Orthanc Balcony
Eomer's Spear
Hillman Rabble
Southron Fighter
Uruk-hai Band FOIL
Lorien Swordsman
Weary
Horse of Rohan
Southron Scout
Warmed up a Bit
Grima SoG
56:TT
Uruk-hai Mob
Streets of Edoras
Keep Your Forked Tongue
Ravage the Defeated
Guma PF
On the March
Merry LG
Uruk Stalker
Supporting Fire
Band of Wild Men
Sword of Gondor
57:EoF
Twisted Tales
Fell Beast
Iron Fist of the Orc
Ulaire Toldea WS
Dead Ones
Ent Avenger
Corpse Lights
Naith Longbow
Dunlending Headman
Forewarned
Banner of Isengard
58:EoF
Fell Beast
Arwen EohP
Scaffolding
Ready to Fall
Gate Sentry FOIL
Garrison of Osgiliath
Isengard Plodder
Anborn SH
Dead Ones
Forewarned
Bound by Rage
59:EoF
Saruman's Laboratory
Perilous Ventures
Blood Has Been Spilled
Galadriel KoN
Easterling Polearm FOIL
Quickbeam Bregalad
You're a Liar and a Thief
We Left None Alive
Wisp of Pale Sheen
Treebeard GotF
Rohirrim Traitor
60:EoF
Spied from Above
Fell Beast
Orc Insurgent
Gate Picket
Anborn SH
Wisp of Pale Sheen
Trust
You're a Liar and a Thief
Don't Follow the Lights
Isengard Tinker
Quickbeam Bregalad
61:RotEL
Some Who Resisted
Gleaming in the Snow
Isengard Warrior
Hollowing of Isengard
One of You Must Do This
Isengard Axe
Meant to Be Alone
Servants to Saruman
Unknown Perils
Old Noakes PoW
Orc Guard
Total Foil-count: 7!
I'm not sure how to account for the foil-count at this point. It still lags a bit behind Decipher's odds of 1 in 6 packs, but it is high enough that I'm not sure if there was scaling or just statistical varience.
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Pack 62:TT
Golden Hall
Mind Your Own Affairs
Vengeance
No Retreat
Dunlending Brigand
Thandronen VP
Uruk Crossbowman
Hlafwine VF
Whirling Strike
Task Was Not Done
Uruk Fanatic
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Sunday Double-pack
63:MD
Final Strike
Cirith Ungol Scavenger
Cirith Ungol Sentinel
Gorbag CC
Every Little Is a Gain
Under Foot
Nine-Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom
Cirith Ungol Sentry
Advance Regular
Make Haste
Cirith Ungol Soldier
64:MD
Field of the Fallen misprint
Ruinous Hail
Fell Deeds Awake
Orc Slaughterer
Window of the Eye
Mordor Fiend
Southron Savage
Cirith Ungol Guard
Gorgoroth Keeper
Easterling Pillager
Cirith Ungol Soldier
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65:EoF
It Burns Us
Banner of Westernesse
Isengard Tender
Gandalf Mithrandir
Banner of Isengard
Hrethel RoR
Agility
Dunlending Elder
Naith Longbow
Southron Invaders
Ent Avenger
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66:RotEL
Phial of Galadriel
Ulaire Otsea Ringwraith in Twilight
Hate and Anger
Gondor Bowmen
TWNSHY
Uruk Raider
Friends of Old
The Dark Lord Advances
Frying Pan
Fireworks
Answering the Cries
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67:EoF
Perilous Ventures
Scaffolding
Peril
Hama DoT
Rohirrim Traitor
Smeagol PC
Gate Sentry
Kept Safe
Banner of the Eye
Roused
Dead Ones
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68:TT
Palantir Chamber
Thonnas NC
Desert Lancers
Uruk Follower
Fight for the Villagers
Dunlending Ransacker
Pippin WFR
Uruk Regular
Valor
Men of Rhun
Have Patience
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69:EoF
A Royal Welcome
News of Mordor
Trapped and Alone
Such a Little Thing
Isengard Forger FOIL
Answering the Cries
Hide and Seek
His First Serious Check
Voice of Nimrodel
Dangerous Gamble
Master of Healing
Foil-count: 8
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ummm... I think you mean RotEL...
If you got those cards in an Ents of Fangorn pack, I'd be impressed... ;)
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ummm... I think you mean RotEL...
If you got those cards in an Ents of Fangorn pack, I'd be impressed... ;)
Wow, I just don't know what to say. Not sure how I did that.
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70:EoF (for real this time)
Ulaire Lemenya Wraith on Wings
Orc Insurgent
Crack into Rubble
Ring of Barahir
Smeagol PC
Dunlending Footmen
Mortal Men
Isengard Artisan
Roused
Dead Ones
Treebeard GotF
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Sunday Double-Pack:
71:TT
Westmnet Hills
Arrow and Blade
Over the Isen
Faramir's Bow
Treebeard OLT
Uruk-Hai Marauder
Rider's Spear
Desert Warrior
Sam StB
Broad-Bladed Sword
The One Ring
72:EoF
Easterling Polearm
Isengard Builder
Naith Troop
Durin's Tower
You're a Liar and a Thief FOIL
Corpse Lights
Garrison of Osgiliath
Isengard Artisan
Smeagol PC
Bound by Rage
Not Listening
Foil-count: 9
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73:RotEL
The Ring Draws Them
Massing in the East
Isengard Retainer
Tower of Orthanc
Orc Guard
Saruman SotE
Cast It into the Fire
Isengard Shaman
Seek and Hide
Frying Pan
Voice of Nimrodel
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74:TT
Plains of Rohan Camp
Come Here Lad
Raiders from the East
Simbelmyne
Elven Sword FOIL
Severed His Bonds
Easterling Lieutenant
Fereveldir SoT
Uruk-Hai Raiding Party
Ranger of Ithilien
War Cry of Dunland
Foil-count:10
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Follow-up: the foil on the elven sword is misaligned to the right by about the width of the 1 in the twilight cost (i.e. the foil left edge of the 1 just touches the right edge of the printed 1). I've looked through my other foils and this is the only one with a noticeable shift. It's interesting to see, but it does detract from the impact of the foil, so I'm not hoping for any more of them.
I'm having trouble getting a good picture of the error, but I'll post one when/if I get it.
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75:EoF
Gift of Foresight
Forearmed
Blood Has Been Spilled
News from the Mark
Southron Invaders
Quickbeam Bregalad
Dunlending Reserve
Trust
Rohirrim Traitor
Gate Sentry
We Left None Alive
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76:RotEL
Isengard Servant
Arwen ER
Orc Veteran
Arwen LU
Orc Warrior
Hand of Sauron
Might of Numenor
Isengard Shaman
His First Serious Check
Hide and Seek
Storm of Argument
2 Arwens in the same pack! Back of the envelope calculations say that should happen 0.001875 times per pack opened, or 1/533 packs opened. However, I have to note that the probability is the same for any chosen uncommon and rare ocuring in the same pack.
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Does this take foils into account? And double foils? (I got one once!) Also, I hear that the probability of getting a rare foil was less than that of a common. Was that true? I have pulled foil promos Legolas, Son of Thranduil and Theoden, Lord of the Mark before and want to know what the chances of doing so were.
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Does this take foils into account? And double foils? (I got one once!) Also, I hear that the probability of getting a rare foil was less than that of a common. Was that true? I have pulled foil promos Legolas, Son of Thranduil and Theoden, Lord of the Mark before and want to know what the chances of doing so were.
No, I ignored the possibility of foils in my calculations. I've been told that any booster box (sets 1-12, excluding 9) was guaranteed to have at least 1 R, 1 U, and 1 C, but I never saw anything official stating that.
A few scenarios for foils:
1) All foils are equally likely (i.e. when you open a foil, it has equal chances of any card in the set). My experience does not support this (I've opened far more common foils than rare foils). It is difficult to tell from the singles market if this is true because value is determined more by demand than supply (Aragorn CoG foil is a common, but because people want him far more than tWoaL foil, he costs more, which is believable even if his supply is greater than tWoaL).
2) The guarantee mentioned above is true, and C are otherwise more likely than U/R; U are more likely than R. This means that a box with 6 foils (per Decipher's 1 foil/6 packs statement on the packs) could have a 4:1 ratio C to R. That's much better than the 7:1 ratio for non-foils, and it would mean that rare foils are more common relative to common foils than rares are to commons.
3) The guarantee mentioned above is false, and foils are distributed with the same 7:3:1 C/U/R ratio as normal packs.
Of course, this might be completely wrong and Decipher did something else for the relative probabilities.
I know nothing about double foils outside of set 9. I have seen foils (incl. foreign foils) in the non-set 9 part of set 9 packs, but since my model for how they constructed set 9 packs was to take whatever they had sitting around and put it into the bin, I can't attempt statistical analysis on those packs.
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I'll admit the double foils happened only once to me (Regiment of Haradrim and Sword of Gondor in the same TTT Pack). Either it was a glitch or I was incredibly lucky! And I once also pulled 2 Arwens in one pack (though that was a Mount Doom Booster, not RotEL)!
To be honest, though, I'm more interested about the rarity of foil Promos. I'd have guessed Decipher put them on par with Uncommons (purely based on Boromir, DoMT being reprinted as one in Black Rider), but I'd like to know if anyone knows for sure.
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Never seen a foil promo besides 0P ones, so I can't help with that.
77:EoF
Host of Fangorn
Fell Beast
Arwen EohP
Eomer RC
Wisp of Pale Sheen
Treebeard GotF
Rohirrim Traitor
Smeagol PC
Gate Sentry
Kept Safe
Banner of the Eye
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I'll admit the double foils happened only once to me (Regiment of Haradrim and Sword of Gondor in the same TTT Pack). Either it was a glitch or I was incredibly lucky! And I once also pulled 2 Arwens in one pack (though that was a Mount Doom Booster, not RotEL)!
To be honest, though, I'm more interested about the rarity of foil Promos. I'd have guessed Decipher put them on par with Uncommons (purely based on Boromir, DoMT being reprinted as one in Black Rider), but I'd like to know if anyone knows for sure.
I think I've pulled 2 or 3 P foils, and I think they are all from TTT if that helps at all.
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So you can get a premium foil in a booster... interesting.
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Follow-up: the foil on the elven sword is misaligned to the right by about the width of the 1 in the twilight cost (i.e. the foil left edge of the 1 just touches the right edge of the printed 1). I've looked through my other foils and this is the only one with a noticeable shift. It's interesting to see, but it does detract from the impact of the foil, so I'm not hoping for any more of them.
I'm having trouble getting a good picture of the error, but I'll post one when/if I get it.
I think all foil copies of Elven Sword are like that. I have 4 foil copies and they are all misaligned. Every foil copy I've ever seen of Aragorn, Captain of Gondor from RotK has also been misaligned.
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In the last edition of pack-a-day, I opened an Aragorn CoG foil that is properly aligned.
78:MD
Cirith Ungol Watchman
Shadowplay
Arwen EoL
Gollum MT
Morgul Banner-Bearer
Barren Land
Great Heart
Beaten Back
Houses of Lamentation
Every Little Is a Gain
Under Foot
Another Arwen!
Also, does anyone have experience with the AI rares showing up as foils? I know that they're floating around the internet, so I'm guessing that they show up in EoF boosters.
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I have pulled one or two of those as well. I think my favorite one is Don't Look at Them AI Foil.
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I've gotten AI in Helm's Deep quite a few times, never in any other block...
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79:EoF
Isengard Tender
Ever the Hope of Men
Boomed and Trumpeted
Gate Picket
Quickbeam Bregalad FOIL
Garrison of Osgiliath
Bound by Rage
Hrethel RoR
Southron Invaders
Don't Follow the Lights
Dunlending Elder
80:EoF
Ulaire Lemenya WH
Gift of Foresight
Banner of Westernesse
Pippin HoA
Not Listening
Southron Invaders
Quickbeam Bregalad
Dunlending Reserve
Trust
Rohirrim Traitor
Gate Sentry
Foil-count:11
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I'll admit the double foils happened only once to me (Regiment of Haradrim and Sword of Gondor in the same TTT Pack). Either it was a glitch or I was incredibly lucky! And I once also pulled 2 Arwens in one pack (though that was a Mount Doom Booster, not RotEL)!
To be honest, though, I'm more interested about the rarity of foil Promos. I'd have guessed Decipher put them on par with Uncommons (purely based on Boromir, DoMT being reprinted as one in Black Rider), but I'd like to know if anyone knows for sure.
I actually have uncut foil sheets from RoteL, and I can tell you that the premium foils are on the same sheet as the common foils. So, the probability of getting a foil premium is the same as getting any common foil (but they seem rarer, because for each premium foil on average you should go through all the common foils in the set as well) If the same is true for the 365 card sets, I don't know for sure, but I would assume as much, which would make premiums from these sets rarer since you have more commons to go through. So far as a probability for pulling a common foil vs an uncommon vs a rare, I have opened many booster boxes in my day, and I can say the average is about 3:2:1 for C/U/R. This to me makes sense in that there are on average 6 foils per booster box, each foil sheet I have has exactly 2 of each card on it, and all they would have to do is print 3 sheets/2 sheets/1 sheet in order to have these odds. Like I said, I am not positive on the odds, but it sure seems to me that it is this way.
I also recently purchased 36 booster packs from FotR, and for the rare foil I pulled a Servant of the Secret Fire (which is awesome!) as well as a gandalf's pipe foiled, breeland forest foiled, gondor's vengeance foiled, and there and back again foiled. Here I pulled 5 foils, and it was 2:2:1 C/U/R (had I pulled one more foil, it would likely have been common)
So far as AI foils go, I have pulled many, and they are the rare foil that averages one per booster box.
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The foil average was 5 till 7 in a display and usually 1:2:3. Sometimes an extar common would appear, I had one display Ents with 2 foil rares once.
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As for the foil promos, the most I've gotten from EoF was a Faramir, Ithilen Ranger...
Very few standard foils in that booster as well.
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81:MD
High Vantage
Cirith Ungol Patroller
Field of the Fallen
Stampeded
Cirith Ungol Soldier
Uruk Axe
Cirith Ungol Warrior
Gathering Wind
Orc Armor
Stooping to the Kill
Unabated in Malice
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In the last edition of pack-a-day, I opened an Aragorn CoG foil that is properly aligned.
Can you post a picture? I'd love to see a properly aligned foil of that card.
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In the last edition of pack-a-day, I opened an Aragorn CoG foil that is properly aligned.
Can you post a picture? I'd love to see a properly aligned foil of that card.
I'll work on it, but I have a hard time photographing foils.
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When it comes to photographing foils, I just use my cell-phone camera. I get a good refraction from a reliable light source then crop the photo.
At least, that's how I did it on this thread: Best Looking Foils (http://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/index.php/topic,5514.0.html).
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82:RotEL
Bill the Pony
Trapped and Alone
Wastes of Emyn Muil
Horn of Boromir
Orc Pillager FOIL
Cast It into the Fire
Hand of Sauron
Uruk Raider
Fireworks
Saruman SotE
One of You Must Do This
Foil-count:12
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83:EoF
Banner of Elbereth
Gnawing, Biting, Hacking, Burning
Westfold
Gate Troll
Isengard Journeyman
Agility
Nasty, Foul Hobbitses
Anborn SH
Isengard Tinker
Suspended Palaces
Dunlending Reserve
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84:TT
Plains of Rohan
Fortress Never Fallen
Men Will Fall
Come Down
Gathering to the Summons
Eomer SSoT
Unferth GB
Courtesy of My Hall
Dunlending Robber
Defend It and Hope
We Are the Fighting Uruk-Hai
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85:EoF
Isengard Tender
Meduseld
Hornburg Hall
Isengard Mechanics
Long Slow Wrath
Gate Sentry
Quickbeam Bregalad
You're a Liar and a Thief
We Left None Alive
Wisp of Pale Sheen
Treebeard GotF
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86:TT
Stables
From the Armory
Easterling Trooper
Final Count
Uruk Defender
Swiftly and Softly
Iron Axe
Gandalf TWW
Uruk Pursuer
War and Valor
Southron Soldier
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Sunday Double-pack
87:EoF
Banner of Westernesse
Threw Down My Enemy
Troll's Chain
Ancient Roads
Dunlending Reserve
Mortal Men
Gollum OV
Treebeard GotF
You're a Liar and a Thief
We Left None Alive
Dunlending Headman
88:TT
Derndingle
Behold the White Rider
Haunting Her Steps
Cliffs of Emyn Muil
Uruk Plains Runner
Ranger's Bow
Burn Every Village
Long I Fell
Uruk Stormer
Legolas EC
Southron Bowman
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Here's CoG. Now that I've photo'ed it, I can see that the foil is aligned outside of the image (i.e. signate, twilight cost, etc) but the sword in the photo is off. Sorry for leading you on with that.
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Here's CoG. Now that I've photo'ed it, I can see that the foil is aligned outside of the image (i.e. signate, twilight cost, etc) but the sword in the photo is off. Sorry for leading you on with that.
No problem. That is how every copy of the card I have ever seen looks.
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89:EoF
Ulaire Nertea WH
Forearmed
Easterling Polearm
Ancient Roads
Ent Avenger
Corpse Lights
Naith Longbow
Dunlending Headman
Forewarned
Banner of Isengard
Smeagol PC
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90:MD
Steward's Tomb
Memories of Darkness
The Tale of the Great Ring
Out of the High Airs
Advance Captain FOIL
Southron Fanatic
Morgul Banner-Bearer
Barren Land
Great Heart
Beaten Back
Houses of Lamentation
Foil-count:13
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Nice RF
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91:TT
Caves of Aglarond
Ceorl WH
Uruk-Hai Band
Saruman RR
Desert Warrior
Sam StB
Broad-Bladed Sword
TOR TRR
Curse Them
Dunlending Madman
Elven Sword
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92:EoF
Saruman's Laboratory
Troll's Chain
Perilous Ventures
Held
Smeagol PC
Gate Sentry
Kept Safe
Banner of the Eye
Roused
Dead Ones
Ent Avenger
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93:MD
Cirith Ungol Sentinel
Advance Scout
A Light in His Mind
Drawing His Eye
Great Heart
Southron Fanatic
Gathering Wind
Stooping to the Kill
Advance Regular
Beaten Back
Mordor Brute
The Uncommons in this pack were misprinted with black marks on the left side of the cards. Pics attached
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Couldn't fit all 3 in on post
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94:EoF
Crack into Rubble
Boomed and Trumpeted
Desertion
Enraged
Ent Moot
Isengard Plodder
Not Listening
Gollum OV
Trust
Isengard Journeyman
Ent Avenger
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Sunday Double-pack
95:TT
Great Hall
Herugrim
Secret Folk
Mauhur Patrol Leader
Gandalf tWW
Uruk Pursuer
War and Valor
Southron Soldier
Sword of Rohan
Kill Them Now
Frodo TT
96:MD
Arwen EoL
The Ring Is Mine
Suffered Much Loss
Orc Slaughterer
Houses of Lamentation
Every Little Is a Gain
Make Haste
Chance Observation
Dead Man of Dunharrow
Swarming Like Beetles
Fleet-Footed
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97:EoF
Threw Down My Enemy
Peril
Scaffolding
Winged and Ominous
Isengard Journeyman
Forewarned
Dunlending Footmen
Anborn SH
Wisp of Pale Sheen
Trust
YaLaaT
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97:EoF
Threw Down My Enemy
Peril
Scaffolding
Agents of Orthanc
Don't Follow the Lights
Dunlending Elder
Kept Safe
Hrethel RoR
Dunlending Reserve
Ent Moot
Banner of Isengard
Repeat of the UCs. This happened once before, I think during the origional Black Rider pack-a-day.
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98:TT
Helm's Gate
Mablung SoG
Southron Sentry
Aldor Soldier of Edoras
Uruk Crossbowman
Hlafwine VF
Whirling Strike
Task Was Not Done
Uruk Fanatic
Faramir SoD
Dunlending Savage
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99:MD
Aegnor EE
Mordor Pillager
Rank and File
Aragorn ET
Houses of Lamentation
Every Little Is a Gain
Make Haste
Chance Observation
Dead Man of Dunharrow
Swarming Like Beetles
Fleet-Footed
The UCs are misprinted again (like pack 93). Aegnor is on par with A Light in His Mind; the other two are quite as bad as Advance Scout
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100:TT
Hornburg Parapet
Light Shining Faintly
No Defense
Sword-Wall
Men of Rhun
Have Patience
Uruk Runner
Eowyn LoR
Hillman Band
Search Far and Wide
Still They Came
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101:MD
High Vantage
Rank and File
Unyielding
Arwen QoEaM
Fleet-footed
Nine-fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom
Cirith Ungol Warrior
Mordor Fiend
Gorgoroth Keeper
Chance Observation
Easterling Pillager
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102:EoF
Host of Fangorn
Ever the Hope of Men
Desertion
Don't Look at Them
Nasty, Foul Hobbitses
Ent Moot
Isengard Plodder
Not Listening
Gollum OV
Trust
Isengard Journeyman
103:MD
The Tale of the Great Ring
Mordor Wretch
Memories of Darkness
Shelob HL
Swarming Like Beetles
Fleet-Footed
End of the Game
Window of the Eye
Mordor Fiend
Southron Savage
Cirith Ungol Guard
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104:TT
White Rocks
quick as may be
dunlending pillager
easterling captain
burn every village
long I fell
uruk stormer
legolas ec
southron bowman
pathfinder
cloud of arrows
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105:RotEL
Dinendal SS
Golradir CoI
Song of Durin
Narya
Hand of Sauron
Might of Numenor
Isengard Shaman
His First Serious Check
Hide and Seek
Storm of Argument
Orc Butcher
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106:MD
Watchers of Cirith Ungol
Cirith Ungol Sentinel
Glimpse of Fate
Dark Swooping Shadows
Stooping to the Kill
Unabated in Malice
Last Throw
Flames Within
Uruk Axe
Make Haste
Corsair Boatswain
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107:RotEL
TMAYOD
Gimli's Pipe
Malice
Galadriel LotGW
Storm of Argument
Isengard Worker
Cast It into the Fire!
Isengard Shaman
The Dark Lord Advances
Answering the Cries
Uruk Raider
Well, that's the last pack in the stack. I know there were 108, so I'm not sure if I messed up the numbering or misplaced a pack.
The total foil-count was 13: not the 18 that Decipher's stats predcict, but not terribly shabby either.
This concludes the third edition of pack-a-day. I'm not sure when I'll do another, but I'm sure that there will be one eventually.
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Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to post these!!!
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Thanks, I enjoyed looking through it. Perhaps I'll make one in the future. If that's alright with you?
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Thanks, I enjoyed looking through it. Perhaps I'll make one in the future. If that's alright with you?
By all means!