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Title: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on May 23, 2013, 10:05:37 AM
I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET. IF YOU CANT FIGURE IT OUT, TOUGH! YOU CAN DO THIS ALL FROM 1 COMPUTER BUT HAVING MULTIPLE COMPUTERS MAKES IT GO FASTER.

STEP 1: HAVE 1 MASTER ACCOUNT

STEP 2: FIND A CARD THAT COST 02 SILVER

STEP 3: BUY 22 COPIES OF THAT CARD (DO NOT FOIL ANY! NO FOILS!)

STEP 4: IF ON A SINGLE COMPUTER JUST SIGN OUT AND REGISTER ANOTHER ACCOUNT, IF ON 2 COMPUTERS, STAY LOGGED IN ON MASTER ACCOUNT, AND JUST REGISTER A NEW ACCOUNT ON THE SECOND COMPUTER

STEP 5: CONTINUE TO PURCHASE COPIES OF THE CARD YOU WERE JUST BUYING ON THE MASTER ACCOUNT UNTIL YOUR GOLD SUPPLY RUNS TOO LOW. THIS IS USUALLY ABOUT 22-24 COPIES I CANT REMEMBER.

STEP 6: REPEAT STEP 5 BY CREATING 1 LAST BOGUS ACCOUNT TO DRIVE THE PRICE UP ON THE CARD ABOUT 5 MORE PURCHASES WILL DO.

BY NOW YOU SHOULD HAVE RAISED THE CARDS PRICE TO ABOUT 200 OR 300 HONESTLY I CANT REMEMBER BUT NOW ON YOUR MASTER ACCOUNT THOSE 22 ORIGINAL COPIES WILL NOW NET YOU 300 GOLD GUARANTEED!  NOW YOUR READY FOR STEP 7

STEP 7: LOG BACK INTO MASTER ACCOUNT AND PROFIT! SELL BACK THE 22 COPIES OF THE CARD YOU JUST RAISED IN PRICE WITH THE OTHER 2 ACCOUNTS AND YOU WILL NET 300 GOLD! NOW IS WHERE IT GETS GRINDY/TRICKY

STEP 8: THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO COVER YOUR TRACKS AND GO BACK TO THE OTHER 2 ACCOUNTS YOU USED TO RAISE THE CARDS PRICE AND SELL BACK THE REMAINING COPIES OF THE CARD YOU JUST PROFITED FROM. THIS WILL MAKE YOU ABLE TO RINSE AND REPEAT THE WHOLE COMBO WITHOUT THE HASSLE OF HAVING TO GO FROM CARD TO CARD TO CARD TRYING TO FIND THE NEXT ONE TO JACK UP IN PRICE.

AFTER YOU HAVE SOLD ALL THE COPIES OF THE CARD THE PRICE SHOULD BE BACK AT 02 SILVER LIKE NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. YOU CAN THEN PROCEED TO DO THIS EACH TIME NETTING A FREE 300 GOLD. IT ONLY TOOK ME 2 MINUTES EACH TIME BUT YOU MAY NOT CLICK AS FAST AS I DO SO IT MAY TAKE LONGER.

I CANT STRESS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO COVER YOUR TRACKS. I MEAN YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BY ALL MEANS JACK UP THE PRICES ON THE GOOD STUFF AND TROLOLOL AS YOU NET THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF GOLD. BUT LIKE I SAID YOU THEN HAVE TO GO FIND ANOTHER CARD TO DO THE DUPE WITH AND SOMEBODY COULD ACTUALLY BE IN MERCHANT AT THAT TIME AND SEE THE PRICE GOING UP AND THEY WILL BUY THE CARD TOO AND SELL IT BACK BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE YOUR PROFIT! THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME PLENTY OF TIMES SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS FIND A "HOT CARD" AND IF YOU DO I SUGGEST YOU STICK TO THAT 1 FOR AS LONG AS YOUR WRISTS HOLD OUT AND REPEAT THE PROCESS I HAVE EXPLAINED ABOVE.  



THATS IT! THANK YOU MEN! AND ENJOY!
 
 =D>

ALSO I TYPE FAST SO IF THERES TYPOS MY BAD BUT ITS NOT LIKE IM GOING BACK TO CORRECT THIS LOL


TRULY YOURS,

ZooL

Kralik's EDIT: I'm not sure who flagged this with a warning, but I'm removing it for now.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Cthulhu on May 23, 2013, 11:01:51 AM
I seriously think MarcinS has to reconsider Grond's ticket idea. (http://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/index.php/topic,8468.0.html)
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on May 23, 2013, 11:04:42 AM
I seriously think MarcinS has to reconsider Grond's ticket idea. (http://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/index.php/topic,8468.0.html)




DO SOMETHING!
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Skeeve on May 23, 2013, 11:26:24 AM
Yank the singles, then get to work on the ticket system. Quick.  Oh yeah, and let everyone keep their collections because of the fast action.  Take my gold.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: sgtdraino on May 23, 2013, 12:10:14 PM
Just stop selling singles, and zero out the collections again. Stopping singles sales was the idea supported by the most players last time, and is the simplest and most effective solution to the problem.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Legion on May 23, 2013, 12:17:16 PM
I agree.  This method of beating the system was very obvious, but I didn't realise how effective it could be (I thought it wouldn't make more than 20 gold every time you did it, so not so hugely gamebreaking).  And I will be very annoyed if my collection goes again-I'd just finished my Fellowship Block deck.  Stop selling singles for the moment, until some better method can be found.  (I still think fixing card prices would be best). 
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: TheNinthPlayer on May 23, 2013, 12:40:17 PM
I like the merchant's real life economy idea, but this is not designed well.
STOP THE SINGLES.
If you really want to make money, buy the boosters and be smart about it.  This way is ruining the game for everyone else.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on May 23, 2013, 12:55:43 PM
I like the merchant's real life economy idea, but this is not designed well.
STOP THE SINGLES.
If you really want to make money, buy the boosters and be smart about it.  This way is ruining the game for everyone else.


or i can do this method and THEN be smart and buy boosters to replace the rares i buy.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Cthulhu on May 23, 2013, 12:55:47 PM
Yank the singles, then get to work on the ticket system. Quick.  Oh yeah, and let everyone keep their collections because of the fast action.  Take my gold.

+1

We who collected our decks the hard way having spent lots of time and effort will be pissed, if we have to do it for a third time. I did it twice and I know i can do it again, but its getting exhausting. I'm pretty sure many players will quit.

Plus removing the singles is not the best solution, if the My Cards concept stays. I mean, how are the new players supposed to get their commons and uncommons then - buy 20+ boosters to get a set of Isengard Warrior? I don't think so.

So just remove that multiple account thing for good.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on May 23, 2013, 12:58:15 PM
Yank the singles, then get to work on the ticket system. Quick.  Oh yeah, and let everyone keep their collections because of the fast action.  Take my gold.

+1

We who collected our decks the hard way having spent lots of time and effort will be pissed, if we have to do it for a third time. I did it twice and I know i can do it again, but its getting exhausting. I'm pretty sure many players will quit.

Plus removing the singles is not the best solution, if the My Cards concept stays. I mean, how are the new players supposed to get their commons and uncommons then - buy 20+ boosters to get a set of Isengard Warrior? I don't think so.

So just remove that multiple account thing for good.





NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO I WILL TRY TO EXPLOIT IT =) NO SYSTEM IS ABSOLUTE. BRING IT ON MARCIN s =D T
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on May 23, 2013, 01:24:58 PM
bump
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: JudgeDRG on May 23, 2013, 02:30:06 PM
how about limiting buying a card to 4 copies?
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: sgtdraino on May 23, 2013, 02:43:22 PM
Say, that's actually a pretty good idea, Judge!

We who collected our decks the hard way having spent lots of time and effort will be pissed, if we have to do it for a third time. I did it twice and I know i can do it again, but its getting exhausting. I'm pretty sure many players will quit.

Honestly it's probably already too late. Those who want to exploit it are gaining an unfair advantage even as we speak. The only way to undo that advantage, is to zero collections.

Plus removing the singles is not the best solution, if the My Cards concept stays. I mean, how are the new players supposed to get their commons and uncommons then - buy 20+ boosters to get a set of Isengard Warrior? I don't think so.

If we all get zeroed, it will just be one never-ending ever-growing sealed deck game. We like those, don't we? The playing field will be even, if we all start over from scratch.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Skeeve on May 23, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
4 copies, won't that just mean more accounts to accomplish?

Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: civ4master on May 23, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
True... the only thing to stop this right now is to stop selling singles.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Skeeve on May 23, 2013, 03:45:05 PM
A little insight on what I was doing (before I started avoiding the merchant).  I was selling ANY card I had more than 4 of.  I was actually attempting a collection playset - and I was just at the point where I was buying 4x cheap rares because I had 4x every common card.  A few cards, like hobbit sword, I would foil when I couldn't sell, and sell the foils, to grind down to 4 copies.  Call me crazy, but it passes the time between tournament games, and it is exactly what I did back in the day.  I have the binders of 4x each card...  I would give my commons/uncommons to random players at the store back in the day.

I know they are virtual cards, but I like collecting, and earning cards is *WAY* more fun than buying them, which is why I haven't jumped into any RL tcgs.  TBH, Ebay and the internet age ruined the local tourney scene with internet decks where you can share the winning decks, and buy the cards in less than a week.  I like Gemp because My Cards simulates the environment before all the internet deck stuff went down.  You casual players are playing in that internet deck environment. :p

I'm willing to sacrifice to make it MORE like the environment I enjoy.  I got my rares the hard way, not buying from the singles cabinet at the local card store.  But by opening packs.  However, whatever happens, I feel we may lose some of the community.

more of my .02
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Legion on May 23, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
I remember someone suggesting that the merchant automatically buys your cards once you hit 4.  It sounds like a good idea, as it would take absolutely ages for anyone to abuse to get more than 1 gold.  It would render virtually all cards worthless in not very long, though.  What if the merchant only sells cards?  Most shops would only sell you cards, but would never buy yours, so it is realistic.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: bibfortuna25 on May 23, 2013, 05:43:37 PM
What if you can only sell a card if it was pulled from a pack? Add a special script to singles that were purchased directly from the merchant, making them unable to be resold.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Air Power on May 23, 2013, 06:34:14 PM
I support not selling singles; however, establishing a fair price for selling cards to the merchant will require some thought.
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: TheNinthPlayer on May 24, 2013, 12:13:16 PM
I'm willing to sacrifice to make it MORE like the environment I enjoy.  I got my rares the hard way, not buying from the singles cabinet at the local card store.  But by opening packs. 

If everyone could have enough of a brain/heart to do this, we wouldn't have a problem.


As for those of you abusing the merchant:  you're ruining it for everyone who plays fairly and for yourself, by destroying the site.
If this continues, little bits of the site will have to be limited (like singles).  Eventually, you'll ruin the entire experience. 


Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: Cthulhu on May 25, 2013, 01:06:18 AM
What if you can only sell a card if it was pulled from a pack? Add a special script to singles that were purchased directly from the merchant, making them unable to be resold.

But if someone pulls some rare from a booster, he could still make another account and increase its price, then sell the one opened and profit.  In fact it would be even worse, cause he could not sell the copies bought from the other account, and the price will remain high.

BTW I would appreciate if MarcinS announces if a reset is coming or not, as I see no point in playing League matches and Dailys until thats clear. In fact I better save my last Sealed matches for post reset, so I can win some boosters when I'll need them more. (Thats it if I bother to collect it all from scratch for a third time, which I'm still not certain I'll do).
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: macheteman on May 26, 2013, 06:27:48 AM
my main problem here is that: ZooL, you are breaking the 10% rule!!! only 10% of your posts should be in caps! there is no need to shout!, we can hear you just fine!
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on May 26, 2013, 09:49:01 AM
my main problem here is that: ZooL, you are breaking the 10% rule!!! only 10% of your posts should be in caps! there is no need to shout!, we can hear you just fine!



WHAAAAAT?! SPEAK UP BRO! I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER YOUR SMALL FONT SIZE!!! ;D
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: ZooL on June 01, 2013, 12:02:10 PM
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TO THE MODS.....PLEASE BANISH THIS THREAD FROM HERE AS I REGRET EVER MAKING IT!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DELETE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
Post by: JudgeDRG on June 01, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
we all did
+1 for delete
Title: Re: INFINITE MERCHANT GOLD!!!! (how to dupe gold inside...)
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TO THE MODS.....PLEASE BANISH THIS THREAD FROM HERE AS I REGRET EVER MAKING IT!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DELETE!!!!!!!!!!

If you created the thread and want to delete it, you can do it yourself (just hit "edit" on your main post), but since you requested it stops going forward, I'm going to lock it.