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Title: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: OneFathom on November 30, 2008, 12:01:17 PM
Can both be assigned to the same companion? 

The Mouth of Sauron, Lieutenant of Barad-dur
Grima, Servant of Another Master
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: FM on November 30, 2008, 01:12:47 PM
Yes, I believe they can.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: macheteman on November 30, 2008, 01:56:18 PM
yes, absolutely, and i suggest adding ferny into the mix. :up:
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: TheJord on November 30, 2008, 02:08:54 PM
And Mauhur and Nertea, Dark Horseman
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: macheteman on November 30, 2008, 02:53:42 PM
yeah, i started to make a self-assigning minion deck one time, a while ago. but i sort of stopped before finishing. haha, i know, lame.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: Elf_Lvr on November 30, 2008, 06:23:18 PM
I don't think so. Assignment actions can only assign in a 1-to-1 ratio, I thought. Unless a minion is just plain left unassigned.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: macheteman on November 30, 2008, 06:52:06 PM
not if the shadow player is assigning
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: lem0nhead on December 01, 2008, 12:45:42 AM
I agree with EL, i had this back in tower block, i was using the southron you spot 5 companions to assign him to the RB unless you add 5 and i wanted to do it twice but i was proven wrong that i couldnt do it. Doesnt matter if the shadow is doing it, if a guy is assigned you cant force another assignment action on them as EL said, its 1 on 1.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: TheJord on December 01, 2008, 03:44:38 AM
I checked the rules book and EL and lem0n are correct

"Many assignment actions assign a minion to a companion. You cannot do this unless both of them are unassigned."
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: lem0nhead on December 01, 2008, 04:08:06 AM
Haha yes result! If you could do what everyone is suggesting the game would be broke beyond compare, as there are a multitude of ways to pile 3 or 4 minions on a companion using assignment actions.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: macheteman on December 01, 2008, 06:40:57 AM
haha, i stand corrected.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: DáinIronfoot on December 01, 2008, 08:03:11 AM
If that companion has defender bonuses, though....

Seriously though. Self-assigning minions are best tied to cards like Desperate Defense Of The Ring and Sense Of Obligation.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: SomeRandomDude on December 01, 2008, 09:25:37 PM
Actually, there's a subtle difference between the Fernys and, say, Mouth.

Mauhur, Mouth and Grima have an "Assignment:" ability.

Nertea and Ferny prevent the freeps from assigning. After all assignment actions have occurred and free peoples players have assigned the minions, any unassigned minions can be assigned to any companion.

Yeah, I use both Mouth and 1 copy of Ferny SSF in my expanded [Sauron] discard corrupt for the purpose of Desperate Defense of the Ring and Thin and Stretched.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: Elessar's Socks on December 01, 2008, 10:15:32 PM
I checked the rules book and EL and lem0n are correct

"Many assignment actions assign a minion to a companion. You cannot do this unless both of them are unassigned."
I was thinking, based on this, would you still not be able to assign to an already assigned companion with a defender bonus?
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: lem0nhead on December 02, 2008, 01:01:42 AM
If that companion has defender bonuses, though....

This answers both DI's and ELs question. Regardless of defender its still done on a one to one basis. The rule doesnt have any loop holes in it. it is done on a 1 v 1. The free peoples cant get punished for having defender bonuses by getting 2 self assigning minions on them. The freeps chooses the second assignment as a perk of having that defender bonus.
Title: Re: The Mouth of Sauron and Age's End Grima
Post by: TheJord on December 02, 2008, 03:03:34 AM
Minions with assignment actions (or Shadow events with assignment actions) can only be assigned to an unassigned companion, and they cannot already be assigned.

This is to prevent abuse of minions with assigning gametext like Mountain Orc.

Assignment actions first, then all remaining minions are assigned.