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Title: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: PaulFerdinand on June 19, 2013, 10:44:38 AM
Hi again guys!
I was thinking about another type of deck I wanted to play in Fellowship block so I've come up with Elves and Moria, which I think it's pretty standard. Let me know what you think, please! Comments are always welcome, you know!

Ring-bearer and Ring:
Frodo, Reluctant Adventurer
The One Ring, Isildur's Bane

Sites:
East Road
Bree Gate
Council Courtyard
Mithril Mine
The Bridge of Khazad-Dûm
Dimrill Dale
Anduin Wilderland
Pillars of the Kings
Summit of Amon Hen

Free Peoples (36 cards)
Aragorn, Heir to the White City x3
Boromir, Son of Denethor x3
Sting x1
Mithril-Coat x1
O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! x2
Aragorn's Bow x1
Ranger's Sword x1
Blade of Gondor x1
Boromir's Cloak x1
Shield of Boromir x1
Athelas x4
The Saga of Elendil x3
An Able Guide x2
Pursuit Just Behind x2
Gondor's Vengeance x2
A Ranger's Versatility x4
Power According to His Stature x3
No Stranger to the Shadows x 1

Shadow (36 cards)
Cave Troll of Moria, Scourge of the Black Pit x2
The Balrog, Flame of Udûn x1
Ancient Chieftain x1
Goblin Runner x4
Goblin Scavengers x3
Goblin Sneak x3
Moria Scout x4
Goblin Scimitar x4
Goblin Armory x4
Goblin Swarms x2
The Underdeeps of Moria x1
Host of Thousands x2
Relics of Moria x2
They Are Coming x3
Title: Re: Archery Elves / Moria Swarm
Post by: bibfortuna25 on June 19, 2013, 11:54:28 PM
No Balrog, Cave Troll or Shotgun Enquea?
Title: Re: Archery Elves / Moria Swarm
Post by: Ringbearer on June 20, 2013, 03:51:01 AM
DEnizens unraged is unneeded, you will hardly play it. And The End comes is worse than any minion. It lets the ringbearer decide, so you can bet a mere runner goes to the ringbearer, instead of your chieftain.
Title: Re: Archery Elves / Moria Swarm
Post by: PaulFerdinand on June 20, 2013, 07:33:50 AM
Well I guess I could tight up by taking out The End Comes with Denizens Enraged. Well, let me update the decklist, then!
Title: Re: Archery Elves / Moria Swarm
Post by: jdizzy001 on June 20, 2013, 07:47:41 AM
consider replacing your voice of nimrodel with hobbit stealth and add in forests of lothlorian. It would also be helpful if you could either add some more comps with bows or pull allies out to fight for you. I don't see how lego and arwen will get you all the way to site 9.
Title: Re: Archery Elves / Moria Swarms
Post by: PaulFerdinand on June 20, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Jdizzy001, I can take allies to fight for me with Swan-ship of the Galadhrim plus they are almost all site 6 so they would be just fine for end game strategy. Plus, I expect to overwhelm the opponent's Ring-bearer before the final sites.
But I think that Hobbit Stealth could be a possibility! I'll see how my deck performs and I'll give you feedback!
Title: Re: Archery Elves / Moria Swarms
Post by: PaulFerdinand on June 20, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
Changed Everything up guys! What about now? Is it improved at all? Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Archery Elves + Gondor / Moria Swarms
Post by: bibfortuna25 on June 20, 2013, 11:42:51 PM
Relics of Moria and They Are Coming are essential to any Moria deck. And you definitely need Shotgun Enquea to deal with large fellowships.
Title: Re: Archery Elves + Gondor / Moria Swarms
Post by: Ringbearer on June 23, 2013, 07:03:59 AM
Fit in 3 TAC, 2 relics, kick one chieftain, and work a bit on your free peoples. I would think 40/40 is decent for moria.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: PaulFerdinand on June 23, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Well guys, as you can see, I changed the fellowship entirely and I have made several changes in the Shadow! I haven't found room for that Shotgun Enquea, though...
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: Eukalyptus on June 23, 2013, 02:06:54 PM
Cut Underdeeps. Choke is big in FotR and chances are you won't get that much twilight. I'd also reconsider cutting the Hosts of Thousands. It is a great card in Sealed, but I never found much love or use for it. Also, Guard Commander is a better choice than Chieftain. 2 Cave Trolls are not enough, go at least 3 and add its hammer to the mix. The weapon is replayable through Relics. An example:

Cave Troll of Moria, Scourge of the Black Pit x3
The Balrog, Flame of Udûn x1
Guard Commander x1
Goblin Runner x4
Goblin Scavengers x4
Goblin Sneak x4
Moria Scout x4
Troll's Keyward x1
Goblin Scimitar x4
Cave Troll's Hammer x1
Goblin Armory x4
Goblin Swarms x2
Relics of Moria x2
They Are Coming x2
Úlairë Enquëa, Lieutenant of Morgul x2
Úlairë Nertëa, Messenger of Dol Guldur x1

The Nazgûl are inexpandable, Nertea helps you against big fellowships. The draw back I see from your deck is it's size accompanied by your non-existant Free Peoples card drawing abilities.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: jdizzy001 on June 24, 2013, 09:21:08 AM
it may be hard (it was for me) but you dont need host of thousands. use they are coming and replace host of thousands with more minions. you can drop your cave trolls for shotgun enquea. i've never used nertea (nor have i ever seen anyone use him) but the strategy seems sound.

your freeps strategy is clever (fotr gondor wounding). i'e never seen it done. let me know how it works. i usually default to gondor skirmishes, but i like the idea of fotr gondor wounding.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: Legion on June 24, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
Why all the hate for Host of Thousands?  In an environment free from Dauntless Hunter, it lets you choose whichever minion best suits the situation that is not affected by Curse Their Foul Feet or Sting.  If you run 4 Goblin Runners and 4 Moria Scouts, you're almost sure to have one in the discard pile by the time you want to play it, and those guys are never a bad shout to have.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: jdizzy001 on June 24, 2013, 06:47:31 PM
It isn't hate for host of thousands. It has been my experience that the combination of they are coming and 4 extra minions has resulted in more successful swarms than running host.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: Eukalyptus on June 24, 2013, 10:26:43 PM
It isn't hate for host of thousands. It has been my experience that the combination of they are coming and 4 extra minions has resulted in more successful swarms than running host.
This.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: PaulFerdinand on June 25, 2013, 09:21:34 AM
Thank you for all the support guys! I changed the deck a bit because it was way too large for me (in a free peoples without card-drawing) and I maintaned a couple of Host of Thousands just in case (very very difficult for me to take these guys out^^) but I mainteined the deck's idea, overall and it seems to work okay, but please, continue with the reviews ^^

Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: Eukalyptus on June 25, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
Who do you start? You have multiple copies of both companions. You have to start one of them, so no need to waste slots. Same with Saga of Elendil. 3 is way too much. Besides, way too much Ranger stuff, and exerting ones too, for one Ranger. And what do you do if Aragorn gets exhausted before Regroup? A little proposal:

1x Aragorn, Heir to the White City (starting)
4x Boromir, Lord of Gondor
1x Sam, Son of Hamfast (just in case)
1x Blade of Gondor
2x Flaming Brand
2x Aragorn's Bow
2x Ranger's Sword
2x Armor
4x Athelas
1x Sting
1x Bill the Pony
1x Mithril Coat
4x Gondor Bowmen
1x Saga of Elendil
2x No Stranger to the Shadows
1x O Elbereth
1x There And Back Again
1x Bounder
1x Filibert Bolger
4x Hobbit Stealth
1x Power According to His Stature

This differs greatly from your idea, but atm you just exhaust Aragorn in one or two turns and then you're stuck with events you can't use. This freeps has 4 events just for Frodo to protect. The rest you just play and move on. Cycles better and has great support abilities. Bounder and Filibert I find too good to ignore in FotR Block, especially against Uruks.
Title: Re: Gondor Choke / Moria Swarms
Post by: jdizzy001 on June 27, 2013, 07:19:31 AM
i understand your attachment to hosts. really i do, its so straight forward who doesnt like it, but if you were to replace them with 2 goblin warriors (the goblins who discard dwarf conditions) and drop the underdeeps of moria for an extra goblin swarms your deck would be a bit more focused.