Author Topic: Swiss Tournament on Gemp? (Read 20757 times)

Wyrden333 · « **on:** October 28, 2018, 07:20:39 AM »

Hey!

Is there anybody up for a swiss all card tournament? I don't know about you, but I'm a bit sick of the league system we have.
The only problem would be that the participants'd have to be trustable. Nobody wants to get kicked out because their opponent was a week not online.

Details can be cleared later, I just want to test the waters.

Details:
When everybody joined and the format is clear, I'll post the pairings here.
Then everybody gets max. a week (or another realistic deadline) to play their game and shot me a pm (both players!!) with the results.
When everybody did that (or when time runs out) next pairings will be posted here and so on until one winner is there.

So I add a list with interested people/participants
If you want to be added or removed just post it
We need at least 8

-HumanHydra (December)
-Phallen
-Sibiatu (Movie)
-(DarthMaeglin)(later, maybe)
-mathes (FotR-Block, Movie; No Swiss)
-hight91 (FotR, TTT)

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2018, 07:04:16 PM »

I just don't have the time. Maybe if it were organized for the second half of December.

Phallen Cassidy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2018, 07:58:36 PM »

Gemp can already do swiss My Card tournaments on demand if enough people join, and you probably have enough gold to buy whatever deck you want. I'm interested, but I can't commit. It's a good idea to plan on here to get everybody on at the same time, though.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2018, 06:08:32 AM »

Oh, Phallen you're right, I know that but I'm not sure how exactly these works.
They state like Daily Rohan Movie Tournament (and similar) and some dates but I'm sure you could arrange some.

What I want is to play a completely normal tournament.

But even if they would be back introduced, I think it would be good to do organize them independent from the Gemp tournament, because, as Hydra stated, many people do not have the time to do them in one day or whatever time Gemp gives the players.

My thoughts were to make people join here, give the rounds known here and then every player has a week (or similar) to play their game on Gemp and pm me the results. Then I could give the pairings and so on.

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:02:55 AM »

If you haven't already, maybe you should mention it in the Gemp chat. Despite the recent bustle, I'm sure most players still don't check these forums.

Sibiatu · « **Reply #5 on:** November 01, 2018, 01:11:01 PM »

Alò, it os ok for me: movie block, when ?

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2018, 01:18:03 PM »

So I thought we'd collect people first and then discuss which format. But if this way to host a tournament, I'm sure more will come.
One could go even bigger but thats for the future.

I'll make a list with interested people, we need at least 8 (that'd be 3 rounds) but more are possible (and welcome) too!

DarthMaeglin · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2018, 05:20:55 PM »

Unfortunately my current job can make me unavailable for weeks at a time on short notice. I'm hoping to change that, and once I do I would be interested in participating in something like this.
I like the sound of bringing the forums and the playrooms together more and I think people seeing chatter over something structured like this could be a great way to draw interest over here.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 02, 2018, 07:13:50 AM »

Okay. Hope you'll be available soon!

mathes · « **Reply #9 on:** November 04, 2018, 02:00:23 AM »

Hey,

even though I see the swiss format as the "king of the formats" for LOTR it works even worse than for other C/TCG.

I have organized couple tournaments and getting people to play their game is something that turns very challenging very often.

What I would recommend is to kick off with double elimination tournament, its much easier to organize and the tournament flows much better.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 04, 2018, 03:03:47 AM »

What is 'double Elimination'? Just plain single elimination or being beaten twice or what? Never heard of that before.
And I'd say it depends on what the others want once we hit 8 players. And I'm sure it should be possible to make the time limit, so everybody gets a chance to play their game.
Are you up for a tournament?

mathes · « **Reply #11 on:** November 04, 2018, 04:04:57 AM »

Double elimination is very simple.

Its like the usual tournament spider but you have two brackets - you have the winners bracket (up) and losers bracket (down).

If you lose a game in the winners' bracket, you fall down to losers bracket.

If you lose a game in the losers' bracket, you are out of the tournament.

The final stage is a little bit confusing as it is the winner of the winners' bracket against the winner of losers' bracket.

As the winner already lost once, he would have to win twice in the row to win the whole tournament.

It's a pretty good format as everybody plays at least 2 games so its not as harsh as single elim tournament and doesn't drag too long as swiss tournaments tend to.

More detail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-elimination_tournament

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 04, 2018, 08:48:39 AM »

Ok, thank you! Sounds ...interesting. Still, I'd prefer a system I know but as I said normally everything is ok with me as long as we get things going. But first of we'd need some more people, mathes would you be up for a try?

mathes · « **Reply #13 on:** November 06, 2018, 10:21:08 AM »

Well I play only FOTR and Movie and the format is not yet decided, right?

I would consider to join but honestly I have some experience with online tournaments and if you would go with the swiss I will most likely pass as I have seen and played too many swiss tournaments that stuck somewhere in the middle with half people played around 3/4 of the games and some people still with 0-1 games played

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 06, 2018, 10:39:51 AM »

Ok, I'll add you then but keep in mind you'll play only Elimination Tournaments. But I really hope we could prove you wrong and that my system works so you can play next one

mathes · « **Reply #15 on:** November 06, 2018, 11:20:03 AM »

Fair enough:)

Hight91 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2018, 04:49:56 AM »

I, for one, have no experience with online tournaments whatsoever (except the leagues in Gemp). If it is gonna be FotR or TTT block, I am in, I might consider RotK but I do not know that block very much. Later sets, I have never played.

What I was always hoping to try are the tournaments in the Gemp just to see it work for once. I am ok with any format I guess and I could play mostly afternoon times on weekdays and can be flexible on the weekends.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 10, 2018, 06:37:30 AM »

Hey thank you for the response! I'll add you then. You know what I'l do then? I think I' just create another thread for the gemp tournaments. The problem with them is, that you play the whole tournament immidiently, so everybdy has t be online at the same time and on that thread we can speak up the time, k?

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2018, 12:43:28 PM »

Ok, so I figured out to try this sort of tournament to get people trying it. So whats about starting a Swiss-tournament next week with minimum 4 players?
Format will probably either be Fellowship or Movie, depending on what you want to play.

Rules are simple, sign up by leaving a post either here or on Gemp then I will post the pairings here.
You and your opponent have a week time to play your game. Both of you send me a pm with the result as well as a replay. At the end of the week or when everybody played their game, everybody who didn't play his/her game gets a loss.
Then I will announce the standings and the new pairings here again until only one undefeated player is left.

Above is to be discussed.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 27, 2018, 12:48:11 PM »

Really nobody up? Come on guys!

Phallen Cassidy · « **Reply #20 on:** November 27, 2018, 01:05:25 PM »

Everybody here has already said we're willing to give it a try - just match us up

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 27, 2018, 01:25:44 PM »

Ok then give it a try:

Participants (hope your all onto it if not sign out):

Wyrden333
Phallen
HumanHydra
Hight91

Format: Fellowship Block
(sorry Sibiatu, maybe Movie Block later)

You know how it works.

Pairings, first Round:

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Hight91 (00 00 00) vs. Phallen (00 00 00)

Wyrden333 (00 00 00) vs. HumanHydra (00 00 00)

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(Pairings are completly random)

Time for now: Saturday 29th of December, 24:00 (Gemp server time)

Of course it's a small round but maybe we can go bigger in the future

Phallen Cassidy · « **Reply #22 on:** November 28, 2018, 06:21:33 AM »

I'm not gonna be able to make that time next week. Is it okay if Hight91 and I just play sometime between now and then if we get the chance?

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 28, 2018, 07:05:09 AM »

You only can play on Wednesdays, can't you? Whats about next week weekend would that be possible?
If not I'd say infinite time until everybody played since we're only 4 and it's our first try.

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #24 on:** November 28, 2018, 03:55:35 PM »

Oh - glad I popped on here! Like I said, I'm not free till the second half of December. Sorry, Wyrden!

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 28, 2018, 10:05:28 PM »

Thats why I asked again. But however. Then lets move the whole thing into the future.

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2018, 08:20:18 PM »

I'd be free to play in a tournament starting this Wednesday!

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 15, 2018, 04:46:08 AM »

Ok, good what's about the rest? Phallen, Hight you're fine with that? Anybody else interested?

Phallen Cassidy · « **Reply #28 on:** December 15, 2018, 08:41:52 AM »

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2018, 09:39:58 AM »

So, if Hight is ok with it let's take the pairings above. Let's go!!

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #30 on:** December 17, 2018, 12:28:41 PM »

I'm excited! Wyrden, did you want to arrange a time to play our game Wednesday or thereafter? You're GMT +1 and I'm -5 (Ontario), so I'm guessing some time in your evening and my afternoon would be best. I'm free afternoons right now because I'm on school break.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 18, 2018, 02:34:05 AM »

You've break already? Nice one, we've still a week to go. I'm free today and on friday evening. Otherwise from Saturday on we've an entire week to play that game (ok Christmas is in between, but still). So I will be online on friday evening but if you have a specific day to play then thats fine to.

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #32 on:** December 18, 2018, 10:57:23 AM »

I can't do tonight. I'll try and catch you either Friday evening your time or sometime in the week following. I look forward to it!

What do you study?

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 18, 2018, 11:04:18 AM »

I'm ninth grade that'd still be middle school, right? Anyway see you maybe on Friday otherwise I'm sure we can make something happen in the week after. And for next time, maybe we can move this kind of discussion into the thread I made for that or with pm?

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #34 on:** December 18, 2018, 07:32:10 PM »

Oh, that would be the first year of our high school. And apologies, I didn't realize you had made another thread for this!

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #35 on:** January 12, 2019, 07:23:49 PM »

Hight and Phallen, was there any result to your game? I'm kind of figuring this thing's collapsed, alas.

Phallen Cassidy · « **Reply #36 on:** January 13, 2019, 01:35:32 PM »

I haven't been able to catch hight91 at all, unfortunately.

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #37 on:** January 13, 2019, 06:28:26 PM »

Ah, well. It's just a game.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 14, 2019, 05:29:07 AM »

Yeah, as you know, i've informed him but I haven't seen him since.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #39 on:** January 22, 2019, 08:53:36 AM »

So Hight if you see this: We need you!!!!

For the others: as long as Hight is disappeared is the question whether we wait for him and play this tournament out, or just start a new one (maybe movie block this time).

TheHumanHydra · « **Reply #40 on:** February 09, 2019, 03:29:04 PM »

Sorry, haven't checked the forum in too long! I could play a Movie tourney this week.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 09, 2019, 03:36:37 PM »

Well I don't know about others (Sibiatu is maybe playing, I'll see if I can catch him in Gemp). I personnally am not to motivated at the moment, but if you're up for it I'm with you! What's about you Phallen?

Phallen Cassidy · « **Reply #42 on:** February 11, 2019, 04:07:38 PM »

Sure, I'll play.

Sibiatu · « **Reply #43 on:** March 23, 2019, 09:58:40 AM »

Alò, any news ?

mathes · « **Reply #44 on:** March 27, 2019, 09:54:58 AM »

Would it be petty to just come around to tell you "I told you so"?

)

Anywho I actually know Height91 in person (former colleague) - do you want me to try to reach out to him to let him know?

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 28, 2019, 08:26:40 AM »

Well, I don't know if this is an actuall English saying, but in Germany we say "Hope dies last"

I don't now about the others and it has been some time, but if you think you can do something you could try it.

And @Sibiatu if you're into it we could try movie block this time.

Wyrden333 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 23, 2019, 01:51:38 PM »

Sorry guys school got me the last few month. I don't know y'all still in but maybe we can arange something for next month or so. 'd be cool.

@Phallen
@Hydra
@Sibiatu
@Everybody else interested

And btw @menace, if you see this: Happy Birthday!

Mythdracon · « **Reply #47 on:** September 10, 2019, 08:39:25 PM »

I've never tried Gemp and I'm really rusty--to participate I guess you'd need a constructed deck right? I don't really have those...kind of why I think drafting would be so fun. But I'm unsure how well drafting works on Gemp.