Author Topic: Barrow-Wright Club tournament June 6th, Manhattan KS (Read 37707 times)

GarrisonofGondor · « **on:** March 24, 2009, 03:01:40 PM »

B25, E!U, and I, are all in a LOTR club that is planning on hosting a Lotr Tounament June 6th. Here are the details.

Date: June 6th

Start Time: 10:00 A.M.

End Time: 3:00 P.M.

Cost: $5, This will cover pizza for lunch and help with the prizes.

Format: Expanded

Expanded Format X-List (None of these cards are legal for expanded play).

Aggression
Aragorn, Heir to the White City
A Talent for not Being Seen
Final Account
Frying Pan
Galadriel, Lady of Light
Galadriel, Lady of the Golden Wood
Galadriel, Lady Redeemed
Gimli, Dwarf of the Mountain-race
Horn of Boromir
Legolas, Dauntless Hunter
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
Orkish Smith
Sam, Son of Hamfast
Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
Saruman's Snows
Steadfast Champion
Sting
Strange-Looking Men
The Palantir of Orthanc
The Shire Countryside
Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur

Expanded Format R-List (A maximum of one copy each of these cards may be included in an expanded deck).

Bill the Pony
Bill Ferny, Swarthy Sneering Fellow
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Flaming Brand
Fortress Never Fallen
Forces of Mordor
Get on and Get Away
No Stranger to the Shadows
Ottar, Man of Laketown
Relics of Moria
Savagery to Match Their Numbers

Right now I am looking for suggestions for prizes. We are thinking about RoS bosters and The Hunters Bosters but can't find them.

Post if you want to come and if you have suggestions.

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:03:44 PM »

Where at?

Ringbearer · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:02:13 PM »

Can you define the format for others?

TheJord · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:14:31 PM »

Wow

Lady Redeemed, Memories of Darkness and Final Account are allowed? Its heresy!

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:18:27 PM »

@Lurtzy
The title says all. Manhattan, Kansas.

@Ringbearer
This is a format our club came up with and we are still discusing other cards to Xand R.

@TJ
Yeah, they're allowed. It's like open only no loops.

TheJord · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:23:39 PM »

I love it and I'd be there if I could. Final Account deck thats legal

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:36:07 PM »

Isn't that legal in Open?

TheJord · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:39:14 PM »

Yeah but it wont survive in Open! And no one actually plays Open!

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:51:26 PM »

Everybody in the club plays open.

HawkeyeSPF · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2009, 04:44:04 PM »

Quote from: GarrisonofGondor on March 24, 2009, 05:18:27 PM

@Lurtzy
The title says all. Manhattan, Kansas.

Sooo...that's either the biggest tournament in LotR history, or the smallest town on earth. A little specificity would be a good thing, yeah?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:32:21 PM »

It's neither Hawk. It is a medium size town that is home Kansas State University and Manhattan Christian College. This is the first tournament in Manhattan. I am looking for suggestions on how to make it better.

Ringbearer · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:03:14 AM »

Dont play open?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:06:52 AM »

Are you kidding?

?? Open is the second best format EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

MR. Lurtzy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2009, 12:15:18 PM »

Second only to fellowship block?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2009, 12:35:31 PM »

No, Pre-errutum Pre-X-list. No limits baby!!!!!!!!!

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #15 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:27:27 PM »

So basically, it's you, and 3 or 4 of your friends and whoever else from (here) comes?
Or is it an actual tournament including anyone in the city who wants to play?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #16 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:16:51 PM »

If my friends from Wichita come and you guys come, we'll have 10 to 11 people + anyone who sees the flyers we'll put up.

HawkeyeSPF · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:37:46 PM »

Much as I'd HATE the format, it's always a good thing to see organized play of any kind, so I say "WAY TO GO!"

Seriously, I'm more than happy to see you guys get something together. I hope more than just me and Mike show up to the CODCON Fellowship Block tourney, but chances of that are, well, slim.

Thumbs up all the way. Save up some money to go to GenCon next year and I'll hold a tournament with awesome prizes - RoS style I hope - just know that the format will be Standard.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:39:53 PM »

I'd LOVE to come to that Gencon but I just got my learner's and there is NOOOOOOOOOOOO way one of my parents would go with me.

Elrohir · « **Reply #19 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:47:22 PM »

I am sorry - but I will not come...

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:50:34 PM »

It's okay. I just chaneged the format, We'll play Expanded.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:53:30 AM »

would NB or Agentdrake be coming? essentially, who from the FORUM is coming right now.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:14:09 AM »

Right now. For sure we have Me, E!U, B25, and 2 other guys from the club. I am trying to get NB to come up from Wichita. I also have Vengence and 2 of his brothers are a maybe.

HawkeyeSPF · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:17:25 AM »

If I had nothing better do to that weekend, I would even drive the 10+ hours from Chicago.

I probably have something better to do though, my job, for example. = (

Olorin · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:58:13 AM »

Quote from: Elrohir on March 26, 2009, 06:47:22 PM

I am sorry - but I will not come...

why not... travel to the US is pretty cheap if you are earning €uro...

menace64 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:00:09 PM »

June 6th is far enough away that I should be able to ask off that day. I'd love to come up and play again, as would two or three of my friends.

I'll pass the word along to them, and we'll see who would be interested in a road trip.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:09:49 PM »

Sounds great!

Unfortuneatly the tournament is a long ways away.

I am ready for it right now.

Also, we will have a period afterward to trade.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:03:44 PM »

Now, I assume that you will divide it up into several 1 on 1 games. The winner of each game will advance, while the loser will move to the other side, kind of like this.

Player 1 vs Player 2
Loser of 1vs2 vs Loser of 3vs4 Winner of 1vs2 vs Winner of 3vs4
Player 3 vs Player 4

Player 5 vs Player 6
Loser of 5vs6 vs Loser of 7vs8 Winner of 5vs6 vs Winner of 7vs 8
Player 7 vs Player 8

Winner of 1vs2 vs 3vs4 vs Winner of 5vs6 vs 7vs8

and so on?

The 1st and 2nd place Loser on one side get a consolation prizes, and the the 1st and 2nd place Winners get a prize as well?

HawkeyeSPF · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:10:28 PM »

Why in God's name would you do it bracket style? Swiss pairings has always worked just fine for everybody else.

Then again, if there aren't many of you in the tournament, I'd just have everybody play 1 game against everybody else, then a final confrontation between the top two finishers to determine a final winner.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:14:08 PM »

What is Swiss-Pairings?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #30 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:19:56 PM »

We will do seedings but we will draw out of a hat for each persons seed.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #31 on:** March 28, 2009, 01:57:20 AM »

We will pair up on seedings, but then what happens to the losers (As I most definitely have a good shot at.)

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #32 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:39:40 AM »

Its kind of like a 8 team basketball bracket. If you lose you go to the left side and if you win you go to the right.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #33 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:46:01 AM »

Kind of like what I had?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #34 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:50:51 AM »

Right. Only BIGGER.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #35 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:53:37 AM »

Ok, thanks. If you don't mind me asking, what are swiss pairings?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:54:18 AM »

I have no clue. I think he means round robin.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2009, 07:14:03 AM »

round robin would be kewl...but we only have, what 10 hours?
if I do go, I'll be riding down with A_E.

could you provide tokens and such?

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #38 on:** March 28, 2009, 07:18:01 AM »

What is Round Robin?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #39 on:** March 28, 2009, 07:27:28 AM »

Everybody plays everybody else and whoever has the most wins is the champion. Howerver, we only have 5 hours.

We each will bring a set of tokens and set them on different tables.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2009, 09:16:10 AM »

I think I may come. Now to decide which deck to play...

Actually, Hawkeyes, Kansas does have a massive LotR community. Menace and GoG of course, then a bunch of my friends who aren't on the forums play too. Then, of course, there's people up in Manhattan, and then I guess some people will be coming in from Iowa too...

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #41 on:** March 28, 2009, 09:47:24 AM »

Don't forget Agent Drake and BullroarerIoG. Agent Drake is the one who started everybody on Lotr. Also, Vengence is one of four brothers from Wichita who all play. NBarden, don't forget about Treavor and his brother.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #42 on:** March 28, 2009, 10:27:56 AM »

Quote from: NBarden on March 28, 2009, 09:16:10 AM

I think I may come. Now to decide which deck to play...

Actually, Hawkeyes, Kansas does have a massive LotR community. Menace and GoG of course, then a bunch of my friends who aren't on the forums play too. Then, of course, there's people up in Manhattan, and then I guess some people will be coming in from Iowa too...

yeah its starting to look like myself and A_E will make it...theres a chance of BtO, but he doesn't do much anymore...my question is, if NB and I are in the same room, would the spamming energies destroy something?
perhaps the fabric of the space time continuum>?

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #43 on:** March 28, 2009, 10:34:18 AM »

Quote from: NBarden on March 28, 2009, 09:16:10 AM

and then I guess some people will be coming in from Iowa too...

We have a tight knit LotR community. Sort of. Within about 4-5 blocks total, there are 8 players. 1 of them recently starting, 3 of them stopping though.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #44 on:** March 28, 2009, 10:38:47 AM »

That stinks. And SoP, You, E!U, and NB will all be in the room. You guys can pay for damages.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #45 on:** March 28, 2009, 10:56:54 AM »

I know nothing about E!U...so that'll be fine

my question is, should we ban any other hunters block cards? especially since myself and A_E don't have hunters block? I'm sure others won't as well...like prized lagan for example?

And Ben, whose stopping?

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #46 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:04:01 AM »

Nathan Gartin, Peter Gartin, and BtO

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #47 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:07:57 AM »

Wait so how many people can come from Iowa? SoP, we are playing expanded. You can use any card that is no X-listed.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #48 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:20:15 AM »

Do we have to use the same deck through the entire tournament?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #49 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:24:04 AM »

No. You enter with 3 decks and play with a different deck each time.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #50 on:** March 28, 2009, 08:19:57 PM »

((keep the spam to a minimum guys...that conversation can be carried through PM or not at all. and A_E, peter plays more than anyone else aside from me, and nathan plays when he has time))

I'd put the three deck thing in front...and no, right now the only certain one is ben, though once he gets his plans finalized, I can probably convince my parentals to let me go as well.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #51 on:** March 28, 2009, 08:21:21 PM »

My only problem is my parents when they realized I'm haning out with total strangers.

Gate Troll · « **Reply #52 on:** March 28, 2009, 08:29:56 PM »

I'd love to come. Except there's the drive... ...and I don't think I have a standard deck. The only good card shop around closed down a year or two ago, and it was over 100 miles away.

@Garrison: You'd have what, 7 of your friends with you? And I'm sure you'd have a few of your friend's parents around.
I wouldn't worry.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #53 on:** March 28, 2009, 11:29:12 PM »

The 3 deck thing I don't really like. I'm talking to Garrett right now, he may come, and I think that the one deck thing would be best.

Because he only has one deck haha. And I've only got 1 deck that I'd trust in expanded. Actually, I have 2, but one of them uses proxy cards because I didn't want to shell out $12 for a Gorn's Bow, RL.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #54 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:34:40 AM »

We can just take a vote on how to do the deck thing. One of the guys in the club also has only one deck so IDK how to do it.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #55 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:14:01 AM »

I don't like just one deck...it really hampers everything...I could work with 3...I'd say you can use 1-3 the whole day, just depending on how they do and the play environment.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #56 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:18:58 AM »

Lets say you can enter with 1 to 3 decks and play with whatever one you want.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #57 on:** March 29, 2009, 11:07:19 AM »

Ok, then I would enter 2. /me breaths a sigh of relief.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #58 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:59:29 AM »

Houston, we have a problem. We are planning on having the tournament at the library because its free. I called to reserve it and it is booked for that date. So, the day the library is avalible is June 12. Plese tell me if you can make it then.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #59 on:** March 30, 2009, 10:25:34 AM »

well, again I'm relying on A_E for transportation, so if it works for him...

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #60 on:** March 30, 2009, 05:21:16 PM »

Quote from: GarrisonofGondor on March 30, 2009, 09:59:29 AM

Houston, we have a problem. We are planning on having the tournament at the library because its free. I called to reserve it and it is booked for that date. So, the day the library is avalible is June 12. Plese tell me if you can make it then.

Nope, wouldn't work for me. Sorry.

macheteman · « **Reply #61 on:** April 03, 2009, 09:28:39 AM »

yeah, wouldn't work for me either. i would be graduating the next day. however, if it is on the 6th, there is a chance (maybe small) that i'd be on a road trip only a few hours away. i'd really like to come, but i'll have to see as we get closer to the day.

Gil-Estel · « **Reply #62 on:** April 05, 2009, 10:03:23 AM »

6th of june...take a chance, play outdoors...

Elrohir · « **Reply #63 on:** April 05, 2009, 10:32:36 AM »

The last time, I played outdoor, there were cunning bugs who tried to swarm my Arwen

- So keep an angry flood in your bags

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #64 on:** April 05, 2009, 05:34:15 PM »

Saturdays are the only days that work for me

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #65 on:** April 12, 2009, 06:22:53 AM »

I talked to my youth pastor. He said he is not sure if the church charges to use our youth building. I have to find out. If they don't, we might be able to do it on the 6th

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #66 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:46:33 AM »

why not just do it in when of your homes? how many peoples are we talking about?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #67 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:27:34 PM »

Well, our house isn't big enough

We're talking 12 people if everybody comes

FM · « **Reply #68 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:24:37 PM »

I run 8-man drafts CONSTANTLY, which usuall amass around 12 or so people what with judge, staff, etc, and I don't think it's a problem AT ALL. What issues would your mom have?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #69 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:32:17 PM »

What do you mean Judge, Staff? It would just be us guys playing LOTR

FM · « **Reply #70 on:** April 14, 2009, 06:18:50 AM »

I run 8-man draft SANCTIONED tournaments. We need a tournament organizer and a Judge, at least. That`s, like, 10 people. We usually have other people around, for coverage and stuff (mainly to hang out, but they DO make a coverage every now and then...

).

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #71 on:** April 14, 2009, 05:33:49 PM »

I don't think it'll be sanctioned, but we will have supervision

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #72 on:** April 14, 2009, 06:43:07 PM »

Haha, fyi, nobody's sanctioning tournaments anymore.

What this pretty much is is an informal card gathering and a prize. Nothing too formal.

FM · « **Reply #73 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:16:43 AM »

Quote from: NBarden on April 14, 2009, 06:43:07 PM

Haha, fyi, nobody's sanctioning tournaments anymore.

What this pretty much is is an informal card gathering and a prize. Nothing too formal.

Which is all the more reason for his mother not freaking out at it. I just mentioned that en passant as to explain the 10-12 people in a "8-man".

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #74 on:** April 16, 2009, 11:18:03 PM »

Heh. Which goes to show that you understand nothing about the culture of Midwest homeschool families.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #75 on:** April 17, 2009, 12:44:00 PM »

AMEN!!!!!-

HawkeyeSPF · « **Reply #76 on:** April 17, 2009, 03:53:48 PM »

Yeah, but I'm from the midwest too and I don't understand midwest homeschool families either, so don't feel bad FM.

And neither does my wife.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #77 on:** April 17, 2009, 03:59:48 PM »

well in our defense, theres a lot of variety in midwest homeschooled families...
but I don't understand most of them either

heck, I don't even understand OUR family.

macheteman · « **Reply #78 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:35:45 PM »

yeah, in fact, most home-school families are hard to understands. but some of them are really cool 8)

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #79 on:** April 24, 2009, 06:52:00 AM »

ok I need to know when the tournament is. is it going to be the sixth or the twelfth?

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #80 on:** April 24, 2009, 11:19:20 PM »

Quote from: macheteman on April 18, 2009, 07:35:45 PM

yeah, in fact, most home-school families are hard to understands. but some of them are really cool 8)

Exactly. There are some real cool home-school families. Like mine for example. Social. Bam. Is that not 'supposedly' the biggest problem that other people have with homeschoolers?

And then of course you have SoP. Nothing wrong with his family. Just him.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #81 on:** April 25, 2009, 06:26:35 PM »

I'm still working on it. I'll ask my youth pastor tommorrow. I do have the library reserved though.

Snazzy · « **Reply #82 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:08:41 AM »

I think The Great Ring should be X-listed

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #83 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:21:55 AM »

Nah, I think the format should be straight-up expanded.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #84 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:12:15 AM »

Here is what's going on.

I called the church to reserve it for June 6th. Unfortunatly, the fee to use it is $25. So, if I up the entry fee to $7, to help pay for the facillity, would everyone still be willing to come? I need to know ASAP.

P.S. The format is Expanded with no changes.

sickofpalantirs · « **Reply #85 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:14:08 AM »

I now officially have a conflict...took you too long. Sorry.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #86 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:42:07 PM »

I may be able to get there.

If no unforeseen crisis arises (which actually is pretty likely considering my life right now) and there's no concert.

macheteman · « **Reply #87 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:35:58 AM »

i don't think i'll be in the area then. so don't expect me.

Snazzy · « **Reply #88 on:** April 29, 2009, 07:01:49 AM »

I should be there. But I need to know who's going to be in charge.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #89 on:** April 30, 2009, 06:55:39 AM »

Um, Me?

Snazzy · « **Reply #90 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:05:57 PM »

But what about adults?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #91 on:** April 30, 2009, 05:24:10 PM »

That all depends on who comes.

Aragorn_Ellessar · « **Reply #92 on:** May 03, 2009, 04:05:31 PM »

I can make it on the sixth, and I would be ok if I had to pay $7.

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #93 on:** May 07, 2009, 07:43:18 PM »

Okay, here is the problem. I am having a hard time with this. I can't seem to get parental supervision. If people I don't know, but everybody who comes I know, we don't need parents. Solution?

Snazzy · « **Reply #94 on:** June 04, 2009, 05:07:41 PM »

You have two solutions: don't have the tournament, or hire big bulky security guards.

macheteman · « **Reply #95 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:54:56 AM »

did this tournament actually happen?

GarrisonofGondor · « **Reply #96 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:15:31 AM »

Yes it happened

I'll post results ASAP