Author Topic: Magic 2010 (Read 16239 times)

Thranduil · « **on:** June 24, 2009, 03:06:11 AM »

I thought I might bring up a discussion about the upcoming Magic 2010, just in case more than 2 people read this and have opinions.

Wizards has just released a(n obviously not finished) visual spoiler and the details of the rules change can be found here.

The poll is about the rules change, but what do we think about the cards as well, both the old and new ones?

Thranduil

FM · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:30:24 AM »

I hate what happened to the combat phase. But to be honest, I'm pretty happy about the rest, seeing "cast" again makes me smile!

Thranduil · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:47:48 AM »

Quote from: Felipe Musco on June 24, 2009, 10:30:24 AM

I hate what happened to the combat phase.

But it is a bit weird for combat damage to use the stack when other damage does not.

Thranduil

FM · « **Reply #3 on:** June 24, 2009, 06:56:01 PM »

In a sense. But other damage DOES use the stack, however, since it's done in form of a spell of ability, its use is slightly different. Uses the stack, nonetheless. Don't get me wrong, I think it makes NO SENSE AT ALL for combat damage to use the stack, but it was a way to explore the concept and allow for nice interactions and clever decision-making. Their basically "dumbing down" the game by removing this, which is why I don't like it. Not for the flavor of it.

SomeRandomDude · « **Reply #4 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:50:23 PM »

Yeah, that really stinks. Mogg Fanatic just got useless. Or a lot worse....

Oh wait. I hated Mogg Fanatic.

HUZZAH! Mogg Fanatic just got worse?

I liked damage using the stack. I really did.

Thranduil · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2009, 02:00:56 AM »

Yeah, I did too, but I think the game will be perfectly fine without it. And it does make it easier to teach it to new people - dumbing down to get more people into the game seems fairly worthwhile to me.

What do we think about any of the spoilered cards? Such as the return of Lightning Bolt, new dual lands, mono-black lifelink and such things?

Thranduil

FM · « **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2009, 04:16:07 AM »

The lifelink makes sense, draining life has always been black anyway (see, well, Drain Life). I love how Bolt is coming back, it's an iconic spell and I sincerely think it IS fine in the current meta, when you can open on Land, Birds of Paradise and follow it up with the likes of Wooly Thoctar or Doran, the Siege Tower. I'm sincerely disappointed at the new duals. With them removing manaburning from the game, I kinda hoped the new lands would be just like painlands, except without the pain (and obviously the colorless-adding ability), I don't like CIP tapped lands, and I don't like how they are only aligned-colored. Even though, I AM liking what I see on M10 so far, I just hope Loxodon Warhammer comes back, as well as the man-lands and Wrath of God. I actually think, though, that with the new policy on Core Sets, it IS pretty possible they sit out WoG to see a metagame without it for a while, eventually returning it in M11.

Thranduil · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2009, 05:34:19 AM »

Quote from: Felipe Musco on June 25, 2009, 04:16:07 AM

I actually think, though, that with the new policy on Core Sets, it IS pretty possible they sit out WoG to see a metagame without it for a while, eventually returning it in M11.

I've been hearing people suspecting that Damnation might get in over Wrath, given that black is supposed to be the best colour at killing creatures.

Thranduil

FM · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2009, 06:12:20 AM »

That'd be awesome, I'd have my deck for Natz all set. Either UB Faeries or BGr Rack.

Thranduil · « **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2009, 01:56:53 AM »

Well we just got a whole load of spoilers! What do we think of the new Goblin and Zombie lords? And the new Nantuko Hust etc.?

FM · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2009, 06:20:50 AM »

Well, I don't really like that they're "reprinting" a BUNCH of stuff in a Core Set with new names, like Nantuko Husk, Remove Soul, etc. I don't like it at all, I think it kinda defeats the whole purpose of Core Sets to the more Seasoned players. I do like what I see, though, overall. Great card quality. Triple-drafting M10 is gonna be loads of fun, from what I can see. As for lords, the Goblin one has got me tingling, after all, CAN you picture following him up with Siege-Gang Commander?

Thranduil · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:00:55 AM »

Quote from: Felipe Musco on June 29, 2009, 06:20:50 AM

Well, I don't really like that they're "reprinting" a BUNCH of stuff in a Core Set with new names, like Nantuko Husk, Remove Soul, etc.

They have done this before, like Grizzly Bear --> Cylian Elves, and you've got to admit that Vampire Rogue is so much cooler than Zombie Insect. But I see what you mean.

Goblin Chieftain is nuts, so is Kalonian Behemoth (I can't wait to put him into my Mayael's Aria deck - either your opponent plays Wrath, or you get yourself some 10 life! :hey:) I also quite like the Zombie Lord.

Thranduil

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2009, 12:36:53 PM »

So, the spoiler is up. Any comments?

I must say I LOVE the Master of the Wild Hunt...

FM · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2009, 05:33:20 PM »

I miss a good board sweeper. Other than that, yay for aggro on aggro matchups, let's mess that combat phase up!

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #14 on:** July 15, 2009, 09:05:36 PM »

Opened 3 packs today.

Honor of the Pure
Siege-Gang Commander
Clone

Could have been worse (Hive Mind, Mirror of Fate or Manabarbs). Honor of the pure is going directly to my WW. Siege-Gang Commander, hmmm, MAYBE I build some kind of Goblin deck, if I get better cards. Clone, well, never played Blue, probably going to trade it away. Sadly, it's useless, so no one will trade it from me.

FM · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2009, 12:05:42 AM »

Siege-Gang is awesome, even in non-goblin decks. But pair him up with the new Goblin lord, and he packs quite a punch.

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2009, 01:05:02 PM »

Quote from: Felipe Musco on July 16, 2009, 12:05:42 AM

Siege-Gang is awesome, even in non-goblin decks. But pair him up with the new Goblin lord, and he packs quite a punch.

Are you serious? Cause I don't know what to use him with (in a non-goblin deck)

FM · « **Reply #17 on:** July 17, 2009, 02:14:00 PM »

ANy aggro deck will do, you're talking about 5 power worth of creatures for 5 mana, in red, and divided into 4 different attackers, allowing you to swarm past blockers and force through the last points of damage, while ALSO having the ability to toss off any blocked goblins at their face for some direct damage. ANY Goblins.

Yanko Markovic · « **Reply #18 on:** July 17, 2009, 02:47:45 PM »

Goblin swarm! hahaha awesome... But first I need to get my playset of Honor of the Pure, Captain of the Watch and Preeminent Captain to change my WW to a Soldier deck xD

Ringbearer · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:38:31 AM »

I liked the prerelease where opened a foil Ajani

GOT me some good rares. In total 10 boosters (6 prerelease, 4 win)

- Birds x2
- Ajani foil
- TIme Warp x2
- Shivan Dragon
- Elvish Archdruid
- NIghtmare
- Lurking Predators (cant be all good)
- Howling Mine
- Coat of Arms

Sete · « **Reply #20 on:** November 28, 2009, 12:51:21 PM »

We should do something that is been doing in my magic store community. It's awesome. It's a draft with a sealed deck, then every week you can upgrade it with 2 boosters. The it's like a league. Everyone can play vs someone only 1 time per week. The winner of the game picks 1 rare card and 1 uncommon from the loser and the loser picks 1 uncommon and 1 common among the winner cards (here, the winner can save 5 cards among his rares and uncommons so the loser can't pick them).

^^ It's very funny... it's like one week someone have an awesome deck, then the other week someone gets a better one and so on...

lem0nhead · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2009, 01:58:22 AM »

I dont think the magic community on this site is anywhere near active enough to do anything to be honest Sete!

FM · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2009, 07:41:10 AM »

We could do it through GCCG, if more people played Magic there.

TheJord · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2009, 09:57:28 AM »

I havent tried Magic on GCCG, is it good?

FM · « **Reply #24 on:** December 02, 2009, 07:05:05 AM »

Sure is, we can actually play sealed, don't know about draft, though.

Thranduil · « **Reply #25 on:** December 02, 2009, 07:17:56 AM »

If I could get GCCG to work on my mac, I would SO draft with you guys!

Thranduil

FM · « **Reply #26 on:** December 02, 2009, 12:08:40 PM »

Can't our resident GCCG geniuses do anything about that? Have you tried talking directly to them?
Can't you get a emulator/proxy of windows to make it work?

TheJord · « **Reply #27 on:** December 02, 2009, 04:55:00 PM »

Thranduil, talk to Sete he uses a Mac on GCCG

Thranduil · « **Reply #28 on:** December 03, 2009, 01:56:23 AM »

Thanks!

Thranduil