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Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« on: May 17, 2008, 09:42:46 AM »
Unfortunately, due to a series of unfortunate errors on the part of Decipher, cards ended up being made *cough*Steadfast Champion*cough* that were eventually banned for doing things like discarding your opponents deck, hand, minions and all conditions, and then making the move limit infinite...or other...bad things.

So here we have a list of things that you cannot cram in your decks. In each appropriate format.

Standard Format X-List (None of these cards are legal for standard play).

All cards from sets 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6
All promotional cards 0P1 - 0P19, 0P21, 0P22, 0P30 - 0P47 and 0P62 -0P67
Aggression
Courtyard Parapet
Demoralized
Final Account
Galadriel, Lady Redeemed
Madril, Defender of Osgiliath
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
Orkish Smith
Steadfast Champion
Strange-Looking Men

Standard Format R-List (A maximum of one copy each of these cards may be included in a standard deck).

(none)

Expanded Format X-List (None of these cards are legal for expanded play).

Aggression
Aragorn, Heir to the White City
A Talent for not Being Seen
Final Account
Frying Pan
Galadriel, Lady of Light
Galadriel, Lady of the Golden Wood
Galadriel, Lady Redeemed
Gimli, Dwarf of the Mountain-race
Horn of Boromir
Legolas, Dauntless Hunter
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
Orkish Smith
Sam, Son of Hamfast
Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
Saruman's Snows
Steadfast Champion
Sting
Strange-Looking Men
The Palantir of Orthanc
The Shire Countryside
Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur

Expanded Format R-List (A maximum of one copy each of these cards may be included in an expanded deck).

Bill the Pony
Bill Ferny, Swarthy Sneering Fellow
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Flaming Brand
Fortress Never Fallen
Forces of Mordor
Get on and Get Away
No Stranger to the Shadows
Ottar, Man of Laketown
Relics of Moria
Savagery to Match Their Numbers

Open Format X-List (None of these cards are legal for open play).

(none- knock yourself out :twisted:)

Open Format R-List (A maximum of one copy each of these cards may be included in an open deck).

Forces of Mordor
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
Orkish Smith
Steadfast Champion
Strange-Looking Men

Block Formats

Fellowship Block- Sets 1 through 3 only
-Same Restricted List as Open

Towers Block- Sets 4 through 6 only
-Same Restricted List as Open

King Block- Sets 7, 8 and 10 only
-Same Restricted List as Open
-Gondorian Captain banned in most play

War of the Ring Block- Sets 11 through 13 only
-Same Restricted List as Open

Hunters Block- Sets 15, 17 and 18 only
-Same Restricted List as Open

Alternate Formats

No-Rares
-No Rare Cards Allowed
-Expanded Format X-list

Movie Block
-Sets 1-10 allowed; King sites
-X-List
Aggression
Aragorn, Heir to the White City
Bill the Pony
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Flaming Brand
Forces of Mordor
Frying Pan
Galadriel, Lady of Light
Gondorian Captain
Horn of Boromir
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
No Stranger to the Shadows
Ottar, Man of Laketown
The Palantir of Orthanc
Relics of Moria
Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
Steadfast Champion
Sting
Ulaire Nertea, Messenger of Dol Guldur

Culture Shock
-Expanded Format X-list
-Only cards of one culture allowed on each side of the deck (ring-bearer excepted)

Highlander
-No X-list
-All cards restricted to one copy per deck

Enjoy!

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May 17, 2008, 02:03:28 PM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 02:03:28 PM »
The August 13 CRD added these to the Standard Format X-List, the Open & Block Format Restricted List, and the Expanded Format X-List:

Strange-looking Men
Orkish Smith

(Block formats have restricted cards taken from the Open format restricted list.)

The X-List for movie block is often cited as the X-List before Shadows:

Aggression
Aragorn, Heir to the White City
Bill the Pony
Elrond, Lord of Rivendell
Flaming Brand
Forces of Mordor
Frying Pan
Galadriel, Lady of Light
Gondorian Captain
Horn of Boromir
Memories of Darkness
Mordor Fiend
Ottar, Man of Laketown
No Stranger to the Shadows
The Palantír of Orthanc
Relics of Moria
Saruman, Keeper of Isengard
Savagery to Match Their Numbers
Steadfast Champion
Sting
Úlairë Nertëa, Messenger of Dol Guldur

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May 20, 2008, 03:58:15 PM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 03:58:15 PM »
From LOTRO at least, Movie Block includes set 9. Link to their formats page.

October 09, 2008, 05:43:39 AM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2008, 05:43:39 AM »
Pepin played me a few times lately and in every movieblock deck I have includes 4 copies of Shire Countryside. He keeps saying it is banned, but I don't see the support for that claim...help me, please
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October 09, 2008, 06:06:24 AM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2008, 06:06:24 AM »
If you're playing the game as it was like before Shadows was released, The Shire Countryside would be legal.

October 09, 2008, 08:32:43 AM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2008, 08:32:43 AM »
   The fact is that Movie Block don´t have any official rulling that i know so we must get to some agreement around it.

   I always played with expanded X and R lists in movie block. I just found that with mount doom cards like A Light in His Mind and even Nine-Fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom it´s just a crazy healing machine but i agree that we have other cards that are powerful as well and aren´t banned.

  I think the best solution is to do some agreement between the players. I have also played movie block against Sam, SoH and i really don´t know what is the reason that would make him x-ed in expanded and not in movie.

   Our good sense are above some rullings (or the lack of it in this case) so we can manage to get some deal around it. All the games i face the mentioned cards we continued to play without problems and they don´t screw up the game with some dort of crazy loop combo so i think there is not much problem with that.

    Anyway i´m just happy that people here are trying to adventure in movie block! We can make a SdA tourney maybe...  :-k

October 09, 2008, 11:18:39 AM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2008, 11:18:39 AM »
   How about this movie block deck:

 Put your Shire Countryside at table. Use Frodo that add burdens to wound minions, PATHS, Merry that add strenght to other companion, Smego that add a burden to get st+2  paired with this things to get burdens out (Nine-fingered, light in his mind, sam, soh, etc...) and take no wounds you will have a almost imortal companion (Smeagol), a very protected RB and the mass exertion you will need to do this every time will just be gone as soon as they were added...

EDIT: Ah, we can´t forget the main card Not Listening (6C43)

So make Smego BIG enough to win some skirmish remove burdens and heals all the party  \:D/  Next turn? Peel tehe burdens out with Sam and heal him and Merry with countryside using Not Listening (6C43), a A Light in His Mind (10U108)
 or Nine-fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom (10C112)... Pretty powerfull don´t you think?
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October 09, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2008, 02:28:15 PM »
I don't disagree that TSC is overpowered/broken, but that's the X-List I think most people here would assume to be in effect, and it's the one LOTRO uses. Maybe it could've been called King Standard instead or something. But if you're on the same page with your opponent, you can of course ban (or un-ban) anything you'd like (personally I'm still waiting for Madril DoO to be kicked from Expanded).

October 11, 2008, 06:19:29 PM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2008, 06:19:29 PM »
and it's the one LOTRO uses.

And it's also documented in some old CRD's. Overpowered or not, you have to agree on something unless/until a PC is established...

Of course, I am more than happy to abuse The Shire Countryside myself. :P
Your shadow needs some condition discarding! :)

October 12, 2008, 01:13:03 AM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 01:13:03 AM »
like Saruman's Power...woohoo!
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November 22, 2008, 04:03:39 AM
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Re: Format Rules, Regulations and Red Tape
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2008, 04:03:39 AM »
Highlander question. 1 copy of each card is allowed. Does it matter if I have multiple Aragorns, but different subtitles?
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November 22, 2008, 05:19:14 AM
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2008, 05:19:14 AM »
i remember asking that question a while back, and the answer was no. you can only have one aragorn.

November 22, 2008, 05:40:03 AM
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 05:40:03 AM »
Ok, fair enough...will put some thinking in to it....
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January 30, 2009, 03:55:01 AM
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2009, 03:55:01 AM »
Ok guys, help me here. If you play movieblock, without Reflections, what are the rulings regarding different cards. I mean, cancelling RB skirmish was banned due to the Reflections. etc etc etc. How do you play it?
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January 30, 2009, 04:03:06 AM
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2009, 04:03:06 AM »
I'd say it's ok to cancel skirmishes if reflections is not allowed. Movie Block is a format created for players anyway and there is no official rulings for it, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't even know how accurate is the X-List on this topic for movie block, 'cause i thought Galadriel, LR was banned before shadows.