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Title: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Mythdracon on April 12, 2010, 10:02:25 PM
Say you have Last Days out, and you discard Courageous Easterling in a skirmish. Is the new minion that gets played now fierce, twilight cost -2, and strength +2?
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: jdizzy001 on April 12, 2010, 10:15:24 PM
why not
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MuadDib85 on April 12, 2010, 10:26:19 PM
Last Days has text that let's you play minions from hand, Courageous Easterling has text that let's you play minons from your discard pile.

So with Last Days in play you can use Courageous Easterling's text to discard himself, triggering Last Days (cheaper minion from hand) and also play a minion from discard pile (not cheaper).

Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Smeagollum on April 12, 2010, 11:26:20 PM
Say you have Last Days out, and you discard Courageous Easterling in a skirmish. Is the new minion that gets played now fierce, twilight cost -2, and strength +2?

IMO: You'll need to choose if you either play one from your hand with last days (+bonus) or from your discard (without the bonus from last days). You can't do both.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MuadDib85 on April 12, 2010, 11:28:50 PM
You can do both.

Last Days says each time. So it automatically happens when Courageous Easterling uses his text.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on April 12, 2010, 11:29:43 PM
Last days isn't an ability. It is always active.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Smeagollum on April 12, 2010, 11:33:36 PM
You can do both.

Last Days says each time. So it automatically happens when Courageous Easterling uses his text.

In that case the binus still won't trigger.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MuadDib85 on April 12, 2010, 11:35:45 PM
Yes it does.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on April 12, 2010, 11:43:20 PM
Yeah, Last Days will respond every time a [Men] minion is discarded. It doesn't matter how they are discarded, because each time means each time.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Elessar's Socks on April 12, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
I think MaudDib has it right with being able to use the text of both Last Days and Courageous Easterling.

CE discards himself as the cost of his skirmish action. Last Days triggers from this action, and you may play a [Men] minion with it. When responses are over, proceed to CE's effect, playing a [Men] minion from your discard pile.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Smeagollum on April 13, 2010, 12:20:12 AM
I think MaudDib has it right with being able to use the text of both Last Days and Courageous Easterling.

CE discards himself as the cost of his skirmish action. Last Days triggers from this action, and you may play a [Men] minion with it. When responses are over, proceed to CE's effect, playing a [Men] minion from your discard pile.

But it will not get the -2 cost and +2 bonus if you play the minion from your discard pile.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on April 13, 2010, 12:59:32 AM
Yeah, the two abilities are playing two different minions.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Smeagollum on April 13, 2010, 01:32:07 AM
Yeah, the two abilities are playing two different minions.
that's what i meant
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Elessar's Socks on April 13, 2010, 01:41:51 AM
Ah, then I misread the "You can't do both."  Right, the Last Days benefits applies only to the minion played with Last Days.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: MuadDib85 on April 13, 2010, 01:58:50 AM
So with Last Days in play you can use Courageous Easterling's text to discard himself, triggering Last Days (cheaper minion from hand) and also play a minion from discard pile (not cheaper).
That's what I said to begin with. :P
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Smeagollum on April 13, 2010, 03:03:01 AM
So with Last Days in play you can use Courageous Easterling's text to discard himself, triggering Last Days (cheaper minion from hand) and also play a minion from discard pile (not cheaper).
That's what I said to begin with. :P

Then you should have write it in Dutch  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: CCCORNIV on April 13, 2010, 03:20:24 AM
Su veet Lest Deys in pley yuoo cun use-a Cuooregeuoos Iesterleeng's text tu deescerd heemselff, treeggering Lest Deys (cheeper meeniun frum hund) und elsu pley a meeniun frum deescerd peele-a (nut cheeper). Bork Bork Bork!
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Sam, Great Elf Warrior on April 13, 2010, 08:28:35 AM
You can play two minions: one from hand and one from your discard pile. The minion from your hand is cost -2 and strength +2; the minion from your discard pile is not. It's like this:
Pay Costs: Discard Courageous Easterling.
     Optional Response: Use Last Days to play a minion from hand for cost -2; it is fierce and strength +2.
Perform Effects: Play a minion from your discard pile; it is fierce.
Title: Re: Last Days + Courageous Easterling
Post by: Mythdracon on May 02, 2010, 12:33:44 PM
Great! Thanks for the help. Now for some Stampeding Chieftains.  :hey: