shadowfax GotM

[St. Grimmin]

a little confused about the text. says discard all possesions and can't bear a hand weapon. so does that mean he can bear other possesions after you play it as long as its not a hand weapon like radagasts herb bag? thanks for the input

[MR. Lurtzy]

So long as it is not a hand weapon, the companion can bear possessions after GoTM is played.

[Sid the Squid]

cool thanks Lurtzy

[St. Grimmin]

excellent   :hey:

[Gil-Estel]

The game text should be: When you play Shadowfax, remove it from the game.....ridiculous card.....

[FM]

I'm sorry, but since the card doesn't say "to play, discard all possessions...", it SHOULD mean that it is a continuous effect, meaning, the card is CONSTANTLY discarding other possessions, meaning you COULD play possessions on him, but they'd be instantly discarded. Why doesn't it work this way?

[HawkeyeSPF]

but it also doesn't say "bearer may not bear other possessions or hand weapons", which would be consistent wording, especially for the effect you think it should have.

[FM]

That is indeed a good point. But even so, it IS poor wording, then, one way or another.

[HawkeyeSPF]

no doubts there. it's hard sometimes, as a designer, to step back from the text and try to see what you're writing as game text makes sense (intent-wise) from a player's perspective, as if reading it for the first time.

[MR. Lurtzy]

Honestly I don't see the problem, the text looks pretty straightforward to me.

[Olorin]

Obviously the card text confuses some people here... therefore I would apprecciate if at least you guys speak in clear words... so now:

If Shadowfax GoM is played - all possessions from bearer get discarded - right? - Ok.

But:

May I play THEN another possession (e.g. Glamdring [hand weapon], or radagast's herb bag [no weapon]) on bearer - would this possession then be discarded or stay in play? 

[MR. Lurtzy]

You cannot play Glamdring, as it is a handweapon, but any other possession is fine to play.

[ket_the_jet]

Obviously the card text confuses some people here... therefore I would apprecciate if at least you guys speak in clear words... so now:

If Shadowfax GoM is played - all possessions from bearer get discarded - right? - Ok.

But:

May I play THEN another possession (e.g. Glamdring [hand weapon], or radagast's herb bag [no weapon]) on bearer - would this possession then be discarded or stay in play?  

You cannot play Glamdring, as it is a hand weapon. You can, however, play Radagast's Herb Bag or Salt of the Shire or any other eligible possession that is not a hand weapon. Keep in mind as well that Gandalf's Staff is an artifact.
-wtk

[Thranduil]

The wording is very mirky, but I do believe the intention agrees with our general consensus. I think the card should be worded as:

"When you play Shadowfax, discard all other possessions borne by bearer. Bearer may not bear a hand weapon."

Thranduil

[Olorin]

The wording is very mirky, but I do believe the intention agrees with our general consensus. I think the card should be worded as:

"When you play Shadowfax, discard all other possessions borne by bearer. Bearer may not bear a hand weapon."

Thranduil

Well, if this is the consense here - I'll join your point of view.

I have been ruling that shadowfax always like: discard all other possessions all the time