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Thranduil |
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:41 am |
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lem0nhead wrote: If thats the case shouldnt it be IF bearer has an artifact they can use the get out clause, not if they do not bear it?
Damn, you’ve seen through my makeshift justification!
You’re right and I might change it for the compelling flavour reasons you give.
lem0nhead wrote: LMAO Dain is funny. Im not having a fit but i do obviously think its overpowered. Id sacrifice a few strength any day for exertions. I dont like minions gettting more than terror 1. I personally think it shouldnt be terror X it should just be terror as a set keyword that makes you exert at the start of the skirmish like a rohan horse. Bearing that in mind id limit it to heal twice to gain terror 1. But of course its your mechanism, do what you think best!
This i WILL have a fit about. Even easier condition to meet and could getting wildy out of control. Up cost severely or just limit it to 2 or something.
Can we hold off on a judgment for a second on these two, because there are also quite a few cards and mechanisms that require wraiths to lose their terror, as you’ll see below. Plus, there are only I think 3 minions with base twilight in this set - all others require Nazgul rings or expensive conditions to gain that keyword.
Terror of the Shadow
Event • Assignment
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to exert a companion X times. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 C 173
Shroud of Evil
Event • Assignment
Spell.
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to choose one: draw X cards; add [X]; or add X threats. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 U 165
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lem0nhead |
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:10 am |
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Thranduil wrote:
Can we hold off on a judgment for a second on these two, because there are also quite a few cards and mechanisms that require wraiths to lose their terror, as you’ll see below. Plus, there are only I think 3 minions with base twilight in this set - all others require Nazgul rings or expensive conditions to gain that keyword.
Ill have to see....
Terror of the Shadow
Event • Assignment
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to exert a companion X times. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 C 173
Well this doesnt change my judgement as this is still doing exactly what terror does exert companions. Seems pointless to me other than directing the exertions which isnt that useufl for a 3 card combo.
Shroud of Evil
Event • Assignment
Spell.
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to choose one: draw X cards; add [X]; or add X threats. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 U 165
This is much better, no problem with this.
Dungeons of the Necromancer
Event • Assignment
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to choose one: add X burdens; or Lock X companions until the end of the regroup phase. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 R 151
Wow this seems to hard even with the cost. Id up the current cost either in twilight or/and an addtional requirement.
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Overall my opinion doesnt change a great deal as i wouldnt bother with these cards in my deck anyway as id much rather heal enquea 3 times and get 3 exertions on companions than add 3 or add 3 threats without having to play an extra card. Still think terror is a strong mechanism that would be better not being able to have X after it. |
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DáinIronfoot |
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:27 pm |
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Well, there’s not much sense in me adding my thoughts, since they match lem0n’s almost exactly. Scary.... |
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:18 pm |
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ditto dain and
lem0nhead wrote:
Thranduil wrote: sickofpalantirs wrote: works for me. missing what the artifact has to do with it.
It’s artifacts that are and should be the best weapons against Wraiths, because they’re older and in Middle-Earth older is always better.
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If thats the case shouldnt it be IF bearer has an artifact they can use the get out clause, not if they do not bear it?
this is what I was getting out, but I had to go about then and didn’t have the time to post them. |
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elf lvr |
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:45 pm |
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Quote: Terror of the Shadow
Event • Assignment
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to exert a companion X times. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 C 173
Lots of direct exertion for ? I’d raise the cost...
Quote: Shroud of Evil
Event • Assignment
Spell.
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to choose one: draw X cards; add [X]; or add X threats. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 U 165
Cool!
Quote: Dungeons of the Necromancer
Event • Assignment
Make a minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to choose one: add X burdens; or Lock X companions until the end of the regroup phase. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 R 151
I’m slightly worried about the burden part.. how much terror can your minions get?
But beyond that seems fine. |
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Thranduil |
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:37 am |
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elf lvr wrote: Lots of direct exertion for ? I’d raise the cost...
Except that, as lem0n pointed out, you’re just exchanging exertions that the FP player can place with targetted ones.
elf lvr wrote: I’m slightly worried about the burden part.. how much terror can your minions get?
I estimate 4 would probably be the maximum, and that would be exceedingly expensive. I expect that they’ll be no more than 2 or 3, but I’m having some ideas about that last card, so I’ll have something new a bit later.
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elf lvr |
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:25 pm |
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Thranduil wrote: elf lvr wrote: Lots of direct exertion for ? I’d raise the cost...
Except that, as lem0n pointed out, you’re just exchanging exertions that the FP player can place with targetted ones.
There’s a big difference between a Freeps player placing exertions and a Shadow player placing them.
Exerting Frodo is a lot less harmful than exerting Eowyn, Lady of Ithilien.
Just one directed exertion could cost . Multiple needs a cost of or . |
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:47 pm |
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Okay, put the cost of the common back up to .
Now, how about this:
Dungeons of the Necromancer
Event • Assignment
Spot 3 minions with terror to add a burden or Lock a companion until the end of the regroup phase. Then you may make those minions lose terror (and unable to gain terror) until the regroup phase to repeat this.
H3 R 151
Wording’s a bit messy, but is this more agreeable?
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:30 pm |
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I guess.
I think it would be simpler, to make the first one add a burden, and then you make them lose terror to lock a companion. |
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lem0nhead |
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:13 am |
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I think its fine now Thran. |
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