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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:52 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: lem0nhead wrote: Thranduil wrote: Not sure what to do with that Palantir, because I definitely do not want  to be good at removing threats in this set. Thoughts most certainly appreciated.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 
Okay, done! Thanks.
DáinIronfoot wrote: Would Stalwart work with minions’ combined strength, or only if ONE of the assigned minions, by itself, had more strength? I assume it’s combined, but I’m not entirely sure.
Currently Stalwart is worded as follows:
Stalwart - ability (each time this character is assigned to a character of greater strength, you may use this ability)
So it is not combined. Do you think it should be?
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Thranduil wrote: Not sure what to do with that Palantir, because I definitely do not want to be good at removing threats in this set. Thoughts most certainly appreciated.
In the mean-time, let’s have a tri-culture cycle before our  Men:
 • Host of Lorinand 
Companion • Elf
Str: 9
Vit: 4
Res: 6
Archer. Stalwart - make a minion strength -2 until the regroup phase.
To play, spot 3 Elves.
coolio cut strength by 1
• Host of Khazad-Dum 
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 8
Vit: 5
Res: 6
Damage +1. Stalwart - make a companion gain bloodlust 1 until the regroup phase.
To play, spot 3 Dwarves.
...cut vitality by 1. cut s
 • Mighty Host of Numenor
Companion • Man
Str: 10
Vit: 4
Res: 5
Defender +1. Stalwart - choose a Shadow player who must discard their minion.
To play, spot 3 Men and add a threat.
cut strength by 1 too |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:20 pm |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: coolio cut strength by 1
...cut vitality by 1. cut s
cut strength by 1 too
I’m not sure, because Gil-galad and Elendil have those same stats with better game texts and less spotting requirements.
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:29 am |
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So, you’ve seen one version of the Witch-King as a man before he was corrupted, but here’s another, not necessarily to work with other Men (because in order to use all 9 you need the High-King as ring-bearer), but more as a splash.
Oh, and for his subtitle, it’s basically extrapolation. Tolkien said that 3 of the Nazgul were once men of Numenor, so I assumed they were the more powerful, making them The Witch-King, Toldea and Enquea (because Attea is defined by decipher as Khamul the Easterling).
• The High-King, Man of Numenor
Companion • Man
Str: 9
Vit: 4
Res: 6
Terror 1. Bloodlust 1. Enduring 1.
While the High-King has resistance 0, he is strength -4.
So, basic principle of the men: huge very powerful guys, but also immensely dangerous, especially when you’ve got too many burdens.
 • Ring of Command, Of the Nine
Artifact • Ring
Str: +1
Vit: +1
Res: -3
Legendary  .
Bearer must be the High-King.
Maneuver: Spot a Man, Orc or Nazgul and exert the High-King to make that minion strength -1 until the regroup phase.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:40 am |
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Thranduil wrote: • The High-King, Man of Numenor
Companion • Man
Str: 9
Vit: 4
Res: 6
Terror 1. Bloodlust 1. Enduring 1. Damage +1.
While the High-King has resistance 0, he is strength -4.
I GUESS his drawback is decent, but he’s still awfully good, especially with the enduring. Perhaps give him a spotting requirement? I dunno. It’s so hard to even wrap my head around the idea of Wikkie as a companion....
Thranduil wrote: • Ring of Command, Of the Nine
Artifact • Ring
Str: +1
Vit: +1
Res: -3
Lendary .
Bearer must be the High-King.
Maneuver: Spot a Man, Orc or Nazgul and exert the High-King to make that minion strength -1 until the regroup phase.
Boy, you MUST have been tired when making this, because unless I missed something...uh...not in English, that should be Legendary there, my friend. 
I guess this is as balanced as it can get, since the resistance -3 is a BIG drawback when coupled with Wikkie’s resistance 0 text. Fair enough, I suppose. |
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| Anonymous Prodigy |
![]() Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:46 am |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Thranduil wrote: • Ring of Command, Of the Nine
Artifact • Ring
Str: +1
Vit: +1
Res: -3
Lendary .
Bearer must be the High-King.
Maneuver: Spot a Man, Orc or Nazgul and exert the High-King to make that minion strength -1 until the regroup phase.
Boy, you MUST have been tired when making this, because unless I missed something...uh...not in English, that should be Legendary there, my friend.
No, I get it! Lendary! Before he was in service to Sauron, he worked at the Bank of Númenor!  |
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:50 am |
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DáinIronfoot wrote:
I dunno. It’s so hard to even wrap my head around the idea of Wikkie as a companion....
Hard isnt it? See why ive had bow out. My reviews will be next to useless as none of us here have ANY idea how these will actually turn out, any feedback we give will be irrelevant til we played with them. Reviewing DC’s come from knowledge of the agme and mechanisms. Here we have none of that so it makes it impossible. |
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![]() Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:18 pm |
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Thranduil wrote:
• The High-King, Man of Numenor
Companion • Man
Str: 9
Vit: 4
Res: 6
Terror 1. Bloodlust 1. Enduring 1. Damage +1.
While the High-King has resistance 0, he is strength -4.
cut strength by one, and cut a keyword IMSO.
• Ring of Command, Of the Nine
Artifact • Ring
Str: +1
Vit: +1
Res: -3
Lendary .
Bearer must be the High-King.
Maneuver: Spot a Man, Orc or Nazgul and exert the High-King to make that minion strength -1 until the regroup phase.
I would make it -2/ |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:32 pm |
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lem0nhead wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote:
I dunno. It’s so hard to even wrap my head around the idea of Wikkie as a companion....
Hard isnt it? See why ive had bow out. My reviews will be next to useless as none of us here have ANY idea how these will actually turn out, any feedback we give will be irrelevant til we played with them. Reviewing DC’s come from knowledge of the agme and mechanisms. Here we have none of that so it makes it impossible.
There have been lots of invented cultures in these DC threads, like  ,  etc. Just treat these Men as a new culture with a new strategy. It’s not nearly as mind-boggling as it could have been - I had a lot of ideas I’m not currently using!
 • Lemenya, King of Men
Companion • Man
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Fellowship: Exert Lemenya to play a condition or artifact from your draw deck.
While Lemenya has resistance 0, he cannot be healed.
• Ring of Vigour, Of the Nine
Artifact • Ring
Vit: +1
Res: -2
Legendary .
Bearer must be Lemenya.
He gains "Stalwart - exert or heal a minion".
• Nertea, King of Men
Companion • Man
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Skirmish: Exert Nertea to make a Man strength +2.
While Nertea has resistance 0, he cannot be healed.
• Ring of Might, Of the Nine
Artifact • Ring
Vit: +1
Res: -2
Legendary  .
Bearer must be Nertea.
He gains "Stalwart - make Nertea gain enduring 1 until the end of a skirmish involving him.".
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:43 pm |
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I’ve added some rings to the above post in order to give you perhaps a clearer idea of the strategy.
It’s just a new strategy like my Lake-men, Eagles or Giants from the Hobbit. The fact that they happen to be versions of the Nazgul is actually irrelevant for gameplay.
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