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alehaak

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:50 am

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:

The deck is on the last post! Razz

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alehaak

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:17 am

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:

i’ve read the article from felipe ( http://lotrtcgdb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=2242 )

and like a LOT his archery tatics...

but, why a lot of same companions? only to heal that companion? Oo
is this a good strategy?

on my deck i use only 1 of each companion! =O

help! :/

Felipe Musco

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:36 am

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil

Hey, thanks for reading my article! Must’ve taken quite some time. Well, your card pool is MUCH bigger in Extended than in Fellowship Block, so we had to struggle to make a good deck, and we didn’t have those nasty events the elves have nowadas, except for Double Shot. So, that deck is hybrid, between Elves and Gondor. Problem is, a LOT of cards REQUIRE a Gondorian companion, so if you had the bad luck of not going first to use The Prancing Pony (first version, fixed site number), you had to rely on drawing them, and doing it fast!
For instance, your deck’s packing INSANE amounts of cards, since an expanded deck should have something between 30-38 cards, tops, and you have 34 events. CLEARLY, something is wrong here. So, first thing you have to decide: do you want archery, or some Cirdan + Events trick? Start here, cut Cirdan (he CAN, and probably WILL come back to the deck later) and ALL non-archery events and conditions, and see where you’re at. From there, check how many archery events and conditions you REALLY need, adn check if there’s some way to re-use them, make their effects better, etc. Then, let’s face it, but the real good thing is the TARGETED archery, so consider AT LEAST squeezing in a version of Aragorn and Aragorn’s Bow, if you can, and also because Gondor has a great card called Might of Numenor, that provides some good healing. Also, depending on the Aragorn you choose, he can serve other purposes as well...
Now, with this in mind, you will either need some beef-ups for Aragorn, some events for the Elves to win skirmishes, and some strong companions. "But I’m just back where I started!", you might be saying. But that’s not true! You have decided the strategy, cut (I hope) A LOT of unnecessary events, maybe even added some cards you didn’t think of in the beginning, and THEN added some "complementary" cards to keep your companions alive!
Now, I COULD just go and say: "cut this, add that, etc...", but the other guys will do that (be sure), and they’re fairly good players, and know more cards than I do, so I’d listen to their specific advice. However, I want to show you how to BUILD a deck (and, since YOU will be building it, you’ll most certainly know how to play it), rather than giving you a ready decklist, ’cause this is the kind of thing that sharpen your playing instincts: going through cards in a binder/website, asking for advice, playtesting, etc.
Btw, (I know this is self-promotion, and all, but what the hey) if you liked my article, stay tuned, ’cause I’m starting to write some "different" types of articles, specially useful for newer players, that I think you may like. It’ll be up and running next week, I believe, or the one after. Thanks again for reading my other article! Very Happy

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alehaak

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:10 pm

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:

Im thinking to use some allies...

like Rumil, Elven Protector , Orophin, Lorien Bowman , Calaglin, Elf of Lorien
to add 3 to total archery...
Galadriel, Lady of Light , Celeborn, Lord of Lorien to heal the allies... and Elrond, Herald to Gil-galad to heal the companions ...

in this case the ring bearer is Frodo, Protected by Many with The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles

some ideas?! Very Happy

Felipe Musco

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:14 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil

Those allies only add to the archery at their home site (in which they’re moved to the same row as the companions, and may not even "fire", but take archery wounds as well, and be assigned to skirmishes), and their home site is the site 6 of Fellowship of the Ring, so they’ll never add to the archery total in Expanded, only in Fellowship Block, and at site 6. Their abilities, however, CAN be used, so you COULD wound some Uruk-hai and Orc, and heal them, but in Expanded there’re better ways to go. Use the Ally Elrond, on the other hand, could be cool, if you won’t miss losing the Companion Elrond. Using Calaglin, however, is cool in a Rainbow deck, using unbound hobbits, Aragorn, Wingfoot, and the Calaglin + Galadriel + Celeborn combo, so you can do some SERIOUS wounding at the regroup. Also, some hobbit followers and No Visitors with Unheeded + Shadowplay + Smeagol would seal the deal: kill anything that comes down, cancel the rest, and kill on the Regroup phase. Adding Bilbo Baggins, Retired Adventurer, Elrond, Lord of Rivendell and Power According to His Stature, alongside Gandalf’s Staff, Glamdring, Foe-hammer and a good Gandalf makes up for a very cool deck.

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alehaak

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:44 pm

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:

sry, my post was before i read your 1st post :p

"Those allies only add to the archery at their home site"
d'oh!

i didn’t know this! :X

then forget my last post, that tatic was horrible! Razz

my strategy is to do a lots of archery with Elven Bow, Bow of the Galadhrim, Legolas’ bow, Double Shot, Many Miles, The Spelndor of Their Banners and mighty shot. plus moves fast with lembas to reconcile my hand, Final shot to give str bonuses for a skirmish, Legolas’ sword to heal companions, and Gil-galad, Elven High King to kill the remaining minions.

If a lot of minons survive Blades drawn can hold it, if a powerfull minion survives Point Blank Range and final shot avoid an overhelm and Lorien Protector help to take only 1 wound ...

Im thinking to puto Aragorn, Heir to the White City with Aragorn’s Bow to have a good archery skirmisher ... on this case i need to put possessions for him... and what i take off from this deck?! :S

alehaak

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:57 pm

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:

if i use aragorn i’ll put Gondor Bowmen, The Saga of Elendil, The Last Alliance of Elves and Men and Ranger’s Sword,
my first site will be The Prancing Pony ! :p

is it a good tatic ?

Felipe Musco

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:27 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil

-To the last post:
Kind of. You see, this deck SHOULD be about Archery, so an Aragorn with Aragorn’s Bow should suffice, maybe a The Saga of Elendil. Gondor Bowmen would ALSO require exertions, so you’d either need some way to heal him DURING the archery phase (which I can’t recall if it’s possible), or add ANOTHER Gondor companion. You can think about doing this if either your archery isn’t enough or your companions are having trouble winning skirmishes. Than, there’s also a Gondor event from The Two Towers that wounds minions during the maneuver, which could be useful with Might of Numenor. And there’s Quick as May Be, but that’s just too much splashing...

-To the other one:
Bow of the Galadhrim does not add to the archery total, and both it and Legolas’ Sword are only helpful if Legolas WINS a skirmish. Your Legolas is kind of weak, and will be exhausted a lot of times (to kill dangerous minions), so it’s dangerous assigning him to a skirmish, I’d cut both off.
Legolas’ Bow costs more than Elven Bow for the same ability, cut it off too. Your Legolas is already an archer, and as I said, you won’t get to exert him a lot... Maybe another strategy with a different Legolas could work better with the bow.
Many Miles is not that great, I’d cut it over Double Shots. Mighty Shot is good, but will only add tons of archery against a good swarm, so you could have only 2 copies of it in the deck and still do fairly good.
Minions shouldn’t survive your archery, so you shouldn’t need a ton of skirmish events, maybe some of those that count wounds on minions, which should be great in this build, and you’d also want to have some Condition removal, for things like Wreathed in Shadow, Goblin Swarms, His Terrible Servants, Goblin Armory, etc... Btw, Lorien Protector only prevents wounds to himself, so he kinda sucks... I’d rather have something like Naith Warband (in which case, Legolas’ Bow could be useful to have around), although as I said, it shouldn’t be necessary.
Lembas should not be necessary, I’d leave it off for now, and if you REALLY need them, bring them in later, but 2 copies, tops. You shouldn’t need one to go through sites 1-3. So, a useful one would be to get from either 3-5 or 4-6, since you SHOULD have to stop at site 6 for healing anyway. Then, you’d need another one to go from 6-8, or from 7-9, so 2 copies should suffice.

-To both:
Just click the Edit button on your posts if you want to add anything to them, if there’re still no replies to it, to avoid double-posting in a row.

So, how does your deck look right now?

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alehaak

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:32 pm

Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:

"...both it and Legolas’ Sword are only helpful if Legolas WINS a skirmish."

i don’t understand it... why Legolas’ Sword is only helpful if Legolas WINS?! the text of card is "Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot a wounded minion to heal Legolas." its very usefull to move more than once !

i use Legolas’ bow to have another archer in my companions... leglas is 1 plus 4 elven bow... only 5 archers...with legolas’ bow is 6 archers Razz

this 1 archery may save my life Razz

about lorien Protector ... he just prevent wounds to himself?!?! Oo the text said "While ANOTHER companion is assigned to a skirmish, during each skirmish, prevent all wounds to this companion after the first wound." i understand that if another companion is on a skirmish, lorien prevent the OTHER companion... am i wrong!? Oo

and about companions... how much companions do u think is necessary to this build ? 2 legolas and 2 aragorn ?

u said on the first post to remove the cirdan... is it really necessary? how much companions is the best tatic ?

My deck is like this:

*STARTING LINE

1x The One Ring, The Ring of Rings
1x Galadriel, Bearer of Wisdom
2x Legolas, Greenleaf
1x Arwen, Queen of Elves and Men

*COMPANIONS

2x Gil-galad, Elven High King
1x Cirdan, The Shipwright
1x Aegnor, Elven Escort
1x Elrond, Venerable Lord
2x Aragorn, Heir to the White City
1x Galadriel, Bearer of Wisdom (s)
2x Legolas, Greenleaf (s)
1x Arwen, Queen of Elves and Men (s)

*ARTIFACTS[2]

2x Nenya, Ring of Adamant

*POSSESSIONS [13]

4x Elven Bow
1x Aragorn’s Bow
1x Gwemegil
1x Asfaloth
1x Phial of Galadriel
1x Legolas’ bow
1x Legolas’ Sword
1x Hadafang
2x Lembas

*CONDITIONS

2x Hosts of the Last Alliance
1x The Splendor of Their Banners
4x Blades Drawn
1x The Tale of Gil-galad
1x The Saga of Elendil

*EVENTS [14]

4x Double Shot
2x Curse Their Foul Feet!
2x Final Shot
2x Mighty shot
2x Point Blank Range
2x Might of Numenor

TOTAL: 45 cards... isn’t that much, is? :p

when i finish this deck i edit my first post with it :p

now is the fellowship good?! ^^

CarpeGuitarrem

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:16 pm

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville

alehaak wrote:

Maybe he was thinking of Hadhafang.

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He only prevents wounds to himself. "This" refers to the original card. If it was referring to another card, it would say "that".

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and about companions... how much companions do u think is necessary to this build ? 2 legolas and 2 aragorn ?

Have quite a few...although I don’t think you need the full 9 companions. Drop Cirdan and Elrond, and that’s a good amount...

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u said on the first post to remove the cirdan... is it really necessary? how much companions is the best tatic ?

Cirdan doesn’t help tons in a non-Elvent deck. Same thing goes for Elrond.

I would recommend getting your hands on some Sword of the Fallen-that’s a wicked sweet combo with Arwen, Queen of Elves and Men.

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