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Felipe Musco
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:48 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Yes, other copies CAN be discarded for healing. That’s why adding more copies of a companion you need to draw isn’t much of a waste, you can at least heal him. But, think about it: if you’d add a Legolas to heal Greenleaf, why don’t you add in Might of Numenor on that spot, and heal anyone you might want to? Wink
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alehaak
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:17 pm
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:
deck updated...

43 cards but is better than the older :p


what i remove ?! =(


im thinking to put

2x Alliance Reforged
2x Company of Archers
4x Many Miles

are they good ?
Felipe Musco
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:42 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
alehaak wrote:
i’m new at LOTR, and this is my 1st deck... i really need help to make it stronger! ^^

*THE RING 1

1x The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles

*COMPANIONS 5

1x Galadriel, Bearer of Wisdom (s)
1x Legolas, Greenleaf (s)
1x Arwen, Queen of Elves and Men (s)
1x Gil-galad, Elven High King
1x Aragorn, Heir to the White City

AT LEAST 2 copies of Gil-Galad.

*ARTIFACTS[5]

1x Aiglos
2x Nenya, Ring of Adamant
2x Vilya, Ring of Air

2 Gil-Galad for 1 Vylia, of it’ll clog up you hand. Also, only 1 Nenya.

*POSSESSIONS [12]

4x Elven Bow
1x Aragorn’s Bow, Ranger’s Longbow
1x Asfaloth, Elven Steed
1x Legolas’ Sword
2x Sword of the Fallen
2x Lembas
1x Phial of Galadriel

I’d drop Legolas’ Sword, for now. If there’s enough room, you can put it back. Also, I’d drop one Elven Bow, since you only have 3 Elves to make archers from anyway.

*CONDITIONS [14]

4x Hosts of the Last Alliance
4x Gondor Bowmen
2x Into The West
2x Shadow Between
1x The Tale of Gil-galad
1x The Splendor of Their Banners

Shadow Between, I’d say the same thing I said about Legolas’ Sword. Cut out Hosts of the Last Alliance for now, too. Too many cards.

*EVENTS 8

4x Double Shot
2x Mighty shot
2x Might of Numenor

Total: 43 cards Smile

do u know better cards to this deck? tell me Very Happy

edit: update the build


So, we’re left with:

-4 Hosts of the Last Alliance
-2 Shadow Between
-1 Legolas’ Sword
-1 Nenya
-1 Vylia
-1 Elven Bow
+1 Gil-Galad, Elven HIgh King
+1 Elrond, Herald to Gil-Galad (helas companions AND is another bearer for Vylia)

So, at -8 cards, we’re left at 35, so there’s room for two more cards. I’d consider putting back Legolas’ Sword, for even more healing, and you’re still left with room for one card, although I’d playtest it at 36, with these changes. Then, if you really need the healing, you could consider putting back another Nenya. Now, you need a fast cycling shadow, so I’d go with Moria, Dunland or Gollum.
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alehaak
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:30 pm
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:
hmm, i like it... but i really want at least 2 Hosts of The last alliance!
Cuz a minion archery deck will destroy my elves =// and it will help to i dont lose companions...

and about many miles? is a good card for archery...

or Company of Archers for some condition removal ?



ill make the changes on the deck now...
Felipe Musco
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:54 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Well, I suggested adding Nenya and Legolas’ Sword, which both heal companions, thus making you less vulnerable to archery. I think, however, that you need some condition discarding, so company of arhers might be cool. It’s better to deny archery players those valuable Howdah and Orc Bowmen than just try to "take less archery".
As to Many Miles, I deeply prefer Break the Charge, although in this build, I’d use none. Elven Marksmanship might be considered...
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alehaak
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:05 pm
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:
this deck is very balanced... same number of possessions, conditions and events =p


but still with more than 40 cards! =/

and i dont want to remove cards! :S
alehaak
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:17 am
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:
Thinking to change the deck...

Remove:
-1 Aragorn, heir to the white city (banned ¬¬ )
-1 Aragorn’s bow, ranger longbow
-4 Gondor Bowmen
-1 The last alliance of elves and men
-1 No stranger to the shadows


Insert:
1x Dinendal, Silent Scout
1x Rumil, Elven Protector
1x Orophin, Lorien Bowman
1x Calaglin, Elf of Lorien
1x Celeborn, Lord of Lorien
4x Swan-ship of the Galadhrim


and thinking to put gollum shadow ...

PLUS stronger minions like

Ulaire Enquea, Lieutenant of Morgul
Ulaire Toldea, Messenger of Morgul
Ulaire Cantea, Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Sauron, The Lord of the Rings

Why these cards ?

Simple,
Ulaire Enquea, Lieutenant of Morgul: with 5 burdens can kill a vit3 companion Smile or 3 exausted companions ( :O )!
Ulaire Toldea, Messenger of Morgul: with 4 burdens can wound 2 times an companion weaker than him (or kill a companion Razz ).
Ulaire Cantea, Lieutenant of Dol Guldur: can discard some extremely necessary weapons of the fellowship Wink
and are all fierce str10+ ! Smile
Sauron, The Lord of the Rings: why sauron? Razz he’s a really BIG MONSTER! and costas -x where x is the number of burdens !
Desert Lord: can wound at least 1 companion or exert 2 companios :p very cool with the others ...

this can help the little gollum to take some companions to dead pile Razz

some ideas ?
Felipe Musco
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:06 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
Make a Ninja Gollum Shadow side, rather than adding thos other minions. It can take on companions EASILY!
Swan-ship is not at all that useful... Drop it.
That bunch of allies won’t help out, either. If you’re dropping Gondor, then add a Gandalf Splash (AC has a GREAT article about it, check it out sometime). That alone will help you remove burdens AND win skirmishes, with cards like Servant of the Secret Fire and Gandalf’s Staff will let not only you play SotSF for free, but ALSO cancel a skirmish against a very strong minion that got past your defenses.
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alehaak
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:56 am
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 196 Location:
Im thinking in a ninja gollum side... but its very difficult to build one! :O

Swan ship is like a double shot ! but costs 1 and i have a discard "companion" (ally) to skirmish with "strongest" minions :p

i like this card with some good home 6 allies...


i read AC article and didn’t see a gandalf for my deck =/

just the one that make me be with 9 cards in hand Razz

and what i will remove to put gandalf cards ? when they will comes in hand ?

i dont think that’s a good strategy ! :/

help me with a ninja gollum shadow ?
i see at least 6 different builds! =(
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:47 am
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
figure out which NG you want depending on what cards you have at the moment and what cards you think you could get.
Also if you are really going for heavy archery
cut all the aragorn cards depending on how much corruption is in your area cut the Phial of Galadriel cut lembas and an into the west or 2 and replace them with double shot’s and elven marksmanships
If you are cutting aragorn add a companion possible Cirdan(high vitality) or celeborn(newer one can replay double shot)
of course fi you want to play allies.(you are going to get creamed in expanded with allies IMHO) heavy archery gets the job done.
and if you have gilgalad with aiglos he can very possible clean up whats left over from archery with grenleaf in there you might consider a tale of Gil-galad for him. theres my Two Cents.
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