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Turin06
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:05 am
Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 197 Location: Good Question
[quote="Felipe Musco"]
2Gollum, Desperate and Deadly Gollum
Minion
Str: 5
Vit: 4
Site: 3
Gollum is strength +1 for each wounded companion.
Regroup: Heal Gollum X times to make the Free peoples player exert X companions.
"Clever Hobbitses to climb so High!!!!"
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Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 7
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,56

Flavor text doesn’t link very well to the ability, but that’s mainly it. Some other minor mistakes, but a very solid, creative approach to explore the Gollum culture’s best cards.
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I feel that my mark for flavour text was too low. It is a quote from the movie and the book. It comes at a point where Gollum is at his most desperate because they are right up at Mount Doom so that fit’s with the title. he is also at his most deadly because Frodo and Sam are both beyond exausted. It fit’s in with the ability because Gollum takes strength at this point from the fact that frod and sam have collapsed and chooses to attack them while they are down which fits with the first ability.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:36 am
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Felipe Musco wrote:



3The City is Rank With it Sauron
Event • ???
Spot 2 Sauron minions to exhaust a companion (except the ring-bearer). The Free Peoples Player may add 3 burdens to prevent this.
U
[size=9]"Fear, the city is rank with it"[/size=9]

Card Title: 7
Rarity: 7
Twilight Cost: 7
Abilities: 8
Creativity: 8
Flavor Text: 7
Spelling and other Issues: 5
Consistance: 6
Overall: 6,88

This card just has A LOT of issues in my book, I can’t really get the card title (or the flavor text, for that matter), it’s EXTREMELY powerful for just having a spotting requirement, and is ABSURDLY broken considering it’s a Sauron card, which means the deck could pack Hate as well. Kinda similar to Can You Protect Me From Yourself, so not very creative here, and undercosted. Definitly sop’s worst card, curious it would come right after his best one.



FINAL GRADE: 7,587

OK in return of the king(I am assuming you have seen the movie if you watched it again it would pop right out at you) Gothmog is talking to Advance Captain before the battle and says “Fear the city is rank with it. Let us ease their pain.” Then the catapult the severed heads of Osgiliath soldiers on to the walls. The funny thing is I never knew about that Can you protect me from yourself card. It probably is a little overpowered, but it does cost 3. And you have to spot 2 minions so it is going to take some twilight. In hindsight I should have made it Exert 2 minions. you said that would be my best chance so... I did it. (look at leowyn)
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:34 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
thonnas7 wrote:
Felipe Musco wrote:
Ok, next one up for the massacr... ahem, for the grading is thonnas7. As he submited 2 companions, I simply cut the last one out.

2 Bilbo, Lord of Bag-End Shire
Ally • Home 1F and 3F • Hobbit
Strength: 2
Vitality: 3
Fellowship: Exert Bilbo and add 1 to take a Shire tale into hand from your discard pile.
Rare +

Card Title: 6
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 6
Spelling and other Issues: 7
Consistence: 9
Overall: 8,5

I had only issues with this card’s title, since Bilbo Baggins is not an acceptable title anymore, they’re all named just Bilbo to avoid confusion. Also, I think this one is TOO close to the FotR Bilbo, so that lost some creativity points. The rarity was a BIG upside, after all, it’s a nice catch to put an out-of-context ally as a R+, since it’s an out-of-contest set after all!


Ok, my pledge is fairly straight forward. I believe that the score on Card Title should be upped, as we were suppossed to get the feelings of differen sets. In the early sets, Bilbo Baggins was entitled just that, Bilbo Baggins, it wasn’t until later sets when it was changed. That’s my pledge.


Thonnas7 DOES have a point, although the earlier cards DID receive errata to have their titles corrected (but of course, unless they were dragged into newer sets, those titles would never see printing). So, he’s partially correct in claiming the feeling for earlier sets by the card’s title. Because of this, I’ll raise his grade accordingly, and also restore the title to the old one.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:40 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
AnxiousChieftain wrote:
Quote:
3 Double Vigilance Sauron
Event • Response
If a companion is played, reveal a Sauron Uruk-hai from your hand to exert that companion twice.
"’Nazgûl uneasy. Spies feared on Stairs.’"
Uncommon

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 7
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,5

Didn’t like the flavor text, I don’t think it keys well to the card. Also, one minor issue on formatting: If it’s a Shadow card, then you’re on your Shadow phase, thus, ANY companion played WILL be being played by the Free Peoples Player, too redundant.

I believe that the score for flavor text should be increased. The lore comes directly from the books, when Gorbag and Shagrat are conversing. Shagrat received news that spies were feared on the Stairs, and that they were to have "Double Vigilance". The game text keys off of this - it a companion is played, then the Uruks are to harry him. Everything flows together nicely - the title, the ability, and the lore.

That’s my challenge for the round. Cheers

- AC


As my books are in portuguese, I don’t recognize lores right away. But upon checking my English version, AC’s correct. His grade will be raised accordingly.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:46 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
[quote="Turin06"][quote="Felipe Musco"]
2Gollum, Desperate and Deadly Gollum
Minion
Str: 5
Vit: 4
Site: 3
Gollum is strength +1 for each wounded companion.
Regroup: Heal Gollum X times to make the Free peoples player exert X companions.
"Clever Hobbitses to climb so High!!!!"
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Flavor Text: 7
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,56

Flavor text doesn’t link very well to the ability, but that’s mainly it. Some other minor mistakes, but a very solid, creative approach to explore the Gollum culture’s best cards.
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I feel that my mark for flavour text was too low. It is a quote from the movie and the book. It comes at a point where Gollum is at his most desperate because they are right up at Mount Doom so that fit’s with the title. he is also at his most deadly because Frodo and Sam are both beyond exausted. It fit’s in with the ability because Gollum takes strength at this point from the fact that frod and sam have collapsed and chooses to attack them while they are down which fits with the first ability.


Turin06 also has a point in his flavor text mark. However, it’s a very faint link, most people besides the card’s maker and VERY avid fans (who know almost all the lines by heart, like I do from FotR). Most other players would read it and think "... ok." But ashe DID explainwhere the line came from,his grade WILL be risen.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:52 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
sickofpalantirs wrote:
Felipe Musco wrote:



3The City is Rank With it Sauron
Event • ???
Spot 2 Sauron minions to exhaust a companion (except the ring-bearer). The Free Peoples Player may add 3 burdens to prevent this.
U
[size=9]"Fear, the city is rank with it"[/size=9]

Card Title: 7
Rarity: 7
Twilight Cost: 7
Abilities: 8
Creativity: 8
Flavor Text: 7
Spelling and other Issues: 5
Consistance: 6
Overall: 6,88

This card just has A LOT of issues in my book, I can’t really get the card title (or the flavor text, for that matter), it’s EXTREMELY powerful for just having a spotting requirement, and is ABSURDLY broken considering it’s a Sauron card, which means the deck could pack Hate as well. Kinda similar to Can You Protect Me From Yourself, so not very creative here, and undercosted. Definitly sop’s worst card, curious it would come right after his best one.



FINAL GRADE: 7,587

OK in return of the king(I am assuming you have seen the movie if you watched it again it would pop right out at you) Gothmog is talking to Advance Captain before the battle and says “Fear the city is rank with it. Let us ease their pain.” Then the catapult the severed heads of Osgiliath soldiers on to the walls. The funny thing is I never knew about that Can you protect me from yourself card. It probably is a little overpowered, but it does cost 3. And you have to spot 2 minions so it is going to take some twilight. In hindsight I should have made it Exert 2 minions. you said that would be my best chance so... I did it. (look at leowyn)


And the psychological impact of the heads exhaust them... Think Well, it makes some sense, but hasthe same problem as Turin06’s, TOO specific. It’s easier for the card’s maker, because after all, HE thought of it, so he links it with the whole scene very quickly, but not for everyone else. But you DID manage to explain the reason. So, since I lowered 4 of you grades for the same reason, Card Title, Flavor Text, Spelling and Other Issues AND Consistance will be all slighty risen. Great job on this one, sop.
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bobtheorc
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:12 pm
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
Felipe Musco wrote:

0Dwarven Shield Dwarven
Possession • Armor
Vitality: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
The Shadow player may not place wounds or exertions on bearer.
Regroup: Discard this possession to heal bearer.
“The shield of a dwarf protect him from all but the greatest of arrows and blows..”
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 7
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 9
Arrow Flavor Text:
Spelling and other Issues: 7
Consistence: 8
Overall: 8,88

I just think it costs too little for all the benefits. Also, I think you could’ve gone further on this one, making it a Possession • Shield, and adding the wording "bearer can’t bear more than one hand weapon".



Okay my pledge is pretty simple, You didn’t give me a grade for my flavor text. It might have been in your calculations but I don’t see it here.

So that is my pledge.

Also once you get the pledges done it would be great if you could get the requirements for the next challenge up, if possible, before this weekend so we all have time to work on them. Thanks.
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corvus
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:24 pm
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 1696 Location: Roaming, but dangerous!!!
Felipe Musco wrote:
3 • Galadriel, Sister to Nom the Wise Elven
Companion • Elf
Strength: 3
Vitality: 3
Recistance: 6
To play, spot 2 Elven companions.
Skirmish: Exert Galadriel to reveal the top card of your draw deck. If it is an Elven card, wound a minion skirmishing an Elven companion
"...a great witch lives in this forest!"
Rarity R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 7
Twilight Cost: 9
Stats: 9
Abilities: 8
Creativity: 6
Flavor Text: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 6
Consistence: 6
Overall: 7,89

To be honest, I was disappointed to see corvus open his submission with such a "weak" card. Not a lot of issues on formatting, but the wording on her ability... It basically means that, should you reveal an Elven event, you can reveal the same event over and over again, as long as she has vitality! This ability should either be a one-shot thing, or it should either discard that card or make you shuffle your draw deck. Also, people are sticking too much to old concepts! This galadriel has no means of protecting herself, and is HARSH on the requirements to play (I know this is to justify the ability, but it still doesn’t make it cool), so it could:
-Cost less;
-Have some kind of protection (like being an ally, or being able to be replaced in a skirmish by some means);
-Be an uncommon or;
-Have higher stats.



My pledge is: this card is not played within the sf, hence it can only use its ability as long as it reaches play by spotting 2 more elves! And companions that is! Being Galadriel forces a non-elven ring-bearer and at some point, she will run out of vitality. That means, she is neither over or under powered. Increase anything you want.
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Celebrimbor
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:00 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
Felipe Musco wrote:

14Gothmog, High-Chieftain of Angband [Balrog]
Minion Balrog
Strength: 18
Vitality: 4
Site Number: 5
Fierce. Damage +1. Rallying. (When you play this minion, you may exert it to play another character from the same race from your draw deck or discard pile)
Gothmog is twilight cost -1 for each companion that has a shadow token on it.
Each time a possession is played, you may reveal this card from hand to place a shadow token on a companion (except the Ring-bearer).
R+ (Starter Rare is still a Rare, Celebrimbor. I’ll let it slip this time, only lowering your "Rarity" grade, but do not repeat this mistake again, or you’ll get a 0 on the whole card, for exceeding the given quota for the rarity.)

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 8
Twilight Cost: 10
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 10
Spelling and other Issues: 9
Consistence: 10
Overall: 9,63

AMAZING card! Creative-wise as it can get! Creating a whole new culture for Balrogs was a VERY nice idea, which no one explored so far! Not to mention, this card would make it one tasty preview card for a new set! Comeback of The Balrog, a new culture, a new ability and new ways to use tokens, creating generic tokens which’ll be able to be spotted for several cards of several cultures, not to mention the fun it’ll be in a multi-player match! Too bad the rarity thing lowered your grade on this one!


The Only reason I chose SR for the rarity for this card was that I wanted it to represent a new type of rarity, "Super Rare". I thought it really sounded like it came from an entirely different set. Oh, and why did you color the uniqueness dot red?
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:52 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
bobtheorc wrote:
Felipe Musco wrote:

0Dwarven Shield Dwarven
Possession • Armor
Vitality: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
The Shadow player may not place wounds or exertions on bearer.
Regroup: Discard this possession to heal bearer.
“The shield of a dwarf protect him from all but the greatest of arrows and blows..”
R

Card Title: 10
Rarity: 10
Twilight Cost: 7
Stats: 10
Abilities: 10
Creativity: 9
Arrow Flavor Text:
Spelling and other Issues: 7
Consistence: 8
Overall: 8,88

I just think it costs too little for all the benefits. Also, I think you could’ve gone further on this one, making it a Possession • Shield, and adding the wording "bearer can’t bear more than one hand weapon".



Okay my pledge is pretty simple, You didn’t give me a grade for my flavor text. It might have been in your calculations but I don’t see it here.

So that is my pledge.

Also once you get the pledges done it would be great if you could get the requirements for the next challenge up, if possible, before this weekend so we all have time to work on them. Thanks.


OUCH! How did I miss that?!? Thank goodness I didn’t count the grade in the calculations, but you still got a better grade anyway! Wink
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