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Merrick_Hale

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:24 pm

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas

Yes. 1 > 2x0 which falls into the formula for the overwhelm rules as written.

Comprehensive Rules 4.0 wrote:

If the total strength of one side is at least double the total strength of the other side, all the characters on the losing side are overwhelmed and killed (regardless of how many wounds or how much vitality each has).

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:06 am

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or you could say that 0+0<1
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Merrick_Hale

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:39 am

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas

Not exactly. The way the rule is worded is:
2X <= (Less than or equal to) Y
OR
Y >= (Greater than or equal to) 2X

Where X is the lower strength and Y is the higher strength.

So if Y = 1 and X = 0 you get
1 >= 2x0
which is true.

The issue with both having 0 strength is that it is really a tie which is why they put in the clarification:

Comprehensive Rules 4.0 wrote:

A side with a total strength greater than zero will overwhelm a side whose total strength is zero. If the strength of both sides is zero, the Shadow side wins the skirmish (but does not overwhelm).

This clarification modifies the rule to say mathematically:

Overwhelm = True when:
Y >= 2X

Where:
Y = the higher strength
X = the lower strength
X /= Y (X is not equal to Y)

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NBarden

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:21 pm

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...

0 + 0 = 2 x 0 so I don’t think it matters.

Oh, and with the things that prevent from being overwhelmed unless strength is tripled

0 + 0 + 0 = 3 x 0.

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Merrick_Hale

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:43 pm

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas

Yes, this works for all values, since you just do X + X, but it is simpler to say 2*X or 3*X.

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