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| menace64 | 
 Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:52 pm | 
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CarpeGuitarrem wrote: 
  Delved Too Greedily   
Condition • Support Area
 
Each time bearer moves to an underground site, add    (or    if bearer is a Dwarf).
 Response: If a goblin is played, transfer this condition to a companion.
 
18 R 87   
 
 
Perfect.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   The Darkness Beneath   
Condition • Support Area
 
To play, spot 3    minions (or 2 goblins).
 Maneuver: Discard this condition to play the Fellowship’s next site; the Free Peoples player may discard a goblin unless that site is an underground site.
 
18 R 88  
 
 
Fellowship shouldn’t be capitalized.
 
Fine.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Crawling With Goblins   
Condition • Support Area
 
While you can spot a goblin, the shadow number of each underground site is +1.
 
18 S ??  
 
 
It’s all right, but won’t be too useful (it costs 2, and requires a double-move). | 
 
Riddle 9
 
When I came to Abraham I let him live just a moment longer. When I came to Moses I saved his life more than once. But the salmon... I regret to say I had a hand in its death.
 
 
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| CarpeGuitarrem | 
 Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:27 pm | 
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| Good point on Crawling With Goblins...would a twilight cost decrease be better? | 
 
| "ok, change of plans. the Cobracards christmas party is coming to my house, and we’re gunna teach FM how to hunt." (mm) | 
 
 
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| CarpeGuitarrem | 
 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:16 am | 
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Okay, I edited Crawling with Goblins slightly, and have initiated an interesting new culture twist for the gobbos...(no, they won’t be able to control all sorts of sites...it will be very limited).
 
 
  Ai! A Balrog!  
 
Event • Shadow
 
Spot a goblin at an underground site to play The Balrog from your draw deck; its twilight cost is -3.
 
18 U 89
 
 
 •Already WeNOLINKary  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
Strength: -1
 
Skirmish events may not be played in a skirmish involving bearer.
 
Response: If your   minion wins a skirmish involving a Wizard or a Captain, transfer this condition to the losing character.
 
18 U 90
 
 
 •Cave Troll of Moria, Dark-Dweller  
 
Minion • Troll
 
Strength: 14
 
Vitality: 4
 
Site: 5
 
Damage +1. Captain 2. While you can spot 2 goblins, this minion’s twilight cost is -2.
 
18 U 91
 
 
  Swarms From Below  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
To play, spot an   minion at an underground site.
 
At the start of the Shadow phase, you may discard this condition to make each goblin that is played gain Reinforcements 1 until the end of the turn.
 
Maneuver: Discard this condition and exert a goblin to replace the fellowship’s current site with an underground site from your Adventure Deck.
 
18 U 92
 
 
  Taken the Gates  
 
Event • Maneuver
 
Exert two   captains (or The Balrog) to control an underground site.
 
18 U 93
 
 
  Denizens of the Deeps  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
While you control two underground sites, each goblin is site number -1.
 
18 U 94
 
 
 •Goblin Weapons  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
Each goblin bearing an   hand weapon is strength +1.
 
Shadow: Discard this possession to add   for each hand weapon you can spot (limit 5).
 
18 U 96
 
 
Don’t worry, the S rarity will have cards for stacking goblins on sites. | 
 
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| thonnas7 | 
 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:41 pm | 
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CarpeGuitarrem wrote: Okay, I edited Crawling with Goblins slightly, and have initiated an interesting new culture twist for the gobbos...(no, they won’t be able to control all sorts of sites...it will be very limited).
 
  Ai! A Balrog!   
Event • Shadow
 
Spot a goblin at an underground site to play The Balrog from your draw deck; its twilight cost is -3.
 
18 U 89
  
 •Already WeNOLINKary   
Condition • Support Area
 
Strength: -1
 
Skirmish events may not be played in a skirmish involving bearer.
 Response: If your    minion wins a skirmish involving a Wizard or a Captain, transfer this condition to the losing character.
 
18 U 90
 Oh, I like it. You should make it be that free peoples skirmish events can’t be played though and take off the strength modifier.
 •Cave Troll of Moria, Dark-Dweller   
Minion • Troll
 
Strength: 13
 
Vitality: 4
 
Site: 5
 Damage +1. Captain 2. While you can spot 2 goblins, this minion’s twilight cost is -2.
 
18 U 91
 Why is he strength 13 and 9 twilight? I like him though.
  Swarms From Below   
Condition • Support Area
 
To play, spot an    minion at an underground site.
 
At the start of the Shadow phase, you may discard this condition to make each goblin that is played gain  Reinforcements 1 until the end of the turn.
 Maneuver: Discard this condition and exert a goblin to replace the fellowship’s current site with an underground site from your Adventure Deck.
 
18 U 92
 I like it, although it should be unique.
  Taken the Gates   
Event • Maneuver
 
Exert three    captains (or The Balrog) to control an underground site.
 
18 U 93
 Whoa. That’s hefty. I’d make the twilight cost   and just exert one captain.
  Denizens of the Deeps   
Condition • Support Area
 
While you control an underground site, each goblin is site number -1.
 
18 U 94
 Hmm...that’s kind of easy. Maybe 2 sites? I like the thoery though.
 •Goblin Weapons   
Condition • Support Area
 
Each goblin bearing an    hand weapon is strength +1.
 Shadow: Discard this possession to add    for each hand weapon you can spot (limit 5).
 
18 U 96
 I love this one. GP!
Don’t worry, the S rarity will have cards for stacking goblins on sites.  | 
 
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| CarpeGuitarrem | 
 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:01 pm | 
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| Modified some of the cards slightly. I’ll be posting some more later. | 
 
| "ok, change of plans. the Cobracards christmas party is coming to my house, and we’re gunna teach FM how to hunt." (mm) | 
 
 
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| CarpeGuitarrem | 
 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:47 pm | 
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  Skulking Underdweller  
 
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 6
 
Vitality: 1
 
Site: 4
 
Goblin. Reinforcements 2.
 
Regroup: Stack this minion on an underground site you control.
 
18 C 97
 
 
  In the Shadows  
 
Event • Maneuver
 
Spot a goblin. That minion may not be assigned to a skirmish until the start of the regroup phase.
 
18 C 98
 
 
  Goblin Blade  
 
Possession • Hand Weapon
 
Strength: +1
 
Bearer must be a goblin.
 
When you play this possession, you may spot 2 goblins to add  .
 
18 C 99
 
 
 •Protection of Darkness  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
To play, spot 3 goblins. While the fellowship is at an underground site, goblins cannot take wounds (except during skirmishes).
 
18 C 100
 
 
  Swarming Attacks  
 
Event • Skirmish
 
Discard a goblin to make another goblin strength +1 for each underground site on the site path.
 
18 C 101
 
 
 •Goblin Tunnel-Dweller  
 
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 7
 
Vitality: 3
 
Site: 4
 
Goblin. Reinforcements 1.
 
18 C 102
 
 
  Goblin Seekers  
 
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 5
 
Vitality: 2
 
Site: 4
 
Goblin. Reinforcements 4.
 
18 C 103
 
 
  Goblin Scurrier  
 
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 6
 
Vitality: 1
 
Site: 4
 
Goblin. Reinforcements 2.
 
18 C 103
 
 
  Goblin-Holes  
 
Event • Regroup
 
Stack a goblin on an underground site you control.
 
18 C 104 | 
 
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| thonnas7 | 
 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:09 pm | 
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CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Skulking Underdweller   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 6
 
Vitality: 1
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 2.
Regroup: Stack this minion on an underground site you control.
 
18 C 97
 Good card.
  In the Shadows   
Event • Maneuver
 
Spot a goblin. That minion may not be assigned to a skirmish until the start of the regroup phase.
 
18 C 98
 This card confuses me...
  Goblin Blade   
Possession • Hand Weapon
 
Strength: +1
 
Bearer must be a goblin.
 
When you play this possession, you may spot 2 goblins to add   .
 
18 C 99
 I think you could make it be a strength +2 possession.
 •Protection of Darkness   
Condition • Support Area
 
To play, spot 3 goblins. While the fellowship is at an underground site, goblins cannot take wounds (except during skirmishes).
 
18 C 100
 This is a very good card. GP!  
  Swarming Attacks   
Event • Skirmish
 
Discard a goblin to make another goblin strength +1 for each underground site on the site path.
 
18 C 101
 I’d make it cost 0 and have it discard a Goblin assigned to a skirmish.
 •Goblin Tunnel-Dweller   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 7
 
Vitality: 3
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 1.
18 C 102
 I don’t see why I’d use this.
  Goblin Seekers   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 5
 
Vitality: 2
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 4.
18 C 103
 Reinforcements 4...  
  Goblin Scurrier   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 6
 
Vitality: 1
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 2.
18 C 103
 Same as above.
  Goblin-Holes   
Event • Regroup
 
Stack a goblin on an underground site you control.
 
18 C 104
 Nice. I could see these little buggers getting really annoying, really fast. | 
 
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| DáinIronfoot | 
 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:29 pm | 
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First let me say that I’m a big fan of goblins. I think it’s important that they have their own flavor. I thought it was a bad move on Decipher’s part to lump all the Orcs (even those from Moria) into one big Orc culture. It’s a good idea for some things, and I understand why they did it, but it takes something away from the different cultures evident in the LOTR story’s Orcs...especially when it comes to goblins. Props for coming up with an easy way to keep them seperate yet still within the   culture.
 
 
Also, reinforcements is a neat idea. Could get out of hand, but only if it’s all over the place (which I imagine you’ll be careful not to do). Good show.
 
 
Now, on to the cards!
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Skulking Underdweller   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 6
 
Vitality: 1
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 2.
Regroup: Stack this minion on an underground site you control.
 
18 C 97  
 
Nice. If he lives up to the regroup phase, you get to keep him around a bit longer.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   In the Shadows   
Event • Maneuver
 
Spot a goblin. That minion may not be assigned to a skirmish until the start of the regroup phase.
 
18 C 98  
 
...and now an easy way to ensure your Skulking Underdwellers live through the skirmish phase.
 
 
It MIGHT be easier to just skip a step and have this stack them right away. Perhaps not, since that changes the card and lessens the impact of text like the Skulking Underdweller, but it might be a little less confusing. *shrug*
 
 
I like what such stacked minions do with cards like Crawling With Goblins and look forward to how else you plan on using them.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Goblin Blade   
Possession • Hand Weapon
 
Strength: +1
 
Bearer must be a goblin.
 
When you play this possession, you may spot 2 goblins to add   .
 
18 C 99  
 
Perfect as is, IMO.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:  •Protection of Darkness   
Condition • Support Area
 
To play, spot 3 goblins. While the fellowship is at an underground site, goblins cannot take wounds (except during skirmishes).
 
18 C 100  
 
Ouch! I like it quite a bit.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Swarming Attacks   
Event • Skirmish
 
Discard a goblin to make another goblin strength +1 for each underground site on the site path.
 
18 C 101  
 
I agree with Thonnas that the cost could be reduced.   would be okay, but   might be better. Maybe, if you do  , require the goblin you discard to be unwounded.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:  •Goblin Tunnel-Dweller   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 7
 
Vitality: 3
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 1.
18 C 102  
 
I don’t see why you’d make him cost  , especially with no gametext other than the reinforcements 1. Make him cost  .
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Goblin Seekers   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 5
 
Vitality: 2
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 4.
18 C 103  
 
This guy, on the other hand, is perfectly costed. Most 5/2 minions cost only  , but his evil reinforcements 4 makes   juuuuust right.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Goblin Scurrier   
Minion • Orc
 
Strength: 6
 
Vitality: 1
 
Site: 4
 Goblin. Reinforcements 2.
18 C 103  
 
Ditto here. Good stuff.
 
 
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:   Goblin-Holes   
Event • Regroup
 
Stack a goblin on an underground site you control.
 
18 C 104  
 
Maybe either make it cost   or limit it to unwounded goblins.
 
 
I like these a lot. Always had a soft spot for goblins. You get a gold star! (AKA GP)   | 
 
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| CarpeGuitarrem | 
 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:36 pm | 
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Thanks for the feedback! I’ve been justfying some of the higher costs on these minions with Crawling With Goblins. But I know that only goes so far...
 
 
And I do plan on being able to play stacked goblins aka Goblin Swarms that can’t be discarded. | 
 
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| CarpeGuitarrem | 
 Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:51 pm | 
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  Denizens of Moria  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
While you can spot 2 goblins, you may play goblins stacked on a site as if from hand.
 
Maneuver: Wound a goblin twice to take control of an underground site. Discard this condition.
 
18 S 105
 
 
  Crawling With Goblins  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
While you can spot a goblin stacked on a site, the shadow number of each underground site is +1.
 
18 S 106
 
 
 •Beyond Reach  
 
Condition • Support Area
 
While you can spot 2 goblins at an underground site, other   conditions may not be discarded.
 
Skirmish: Discard this condition to stack a goblin on an underground site you control.
 
18 S 107 | 
 
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