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Mumakiller
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:26 am
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Under the Bridge
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Hobbits get big and damage +1 with a little help from their boy, Gimli. FP only, for now.
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Hey all, you guys are much more active than the boards at the big D so I thought I’d see if you could help me. I did this trick with Ents a long time ago where they’d all be damage +1 and huge. It did pretty well and they had amazing moving power. I’d always loved the idea of bringing dmg+1 to companions who would otherwise not get it, so now I’m trying it with Hobbits.

The main idea is for Hobbits to get big and win fights. They will be damage +1 due to the four copies of Dwarven Embassy (11C5) and Defending the Keep (5C6, it gets the Embassies back). Gimli also brings Blood Runs Chill, which addresses another of the Hobbits main weaknesses. Add this to their already impressive bag of tricks and the Hobbits should be pretty good, right?

The big problem is that I’ve never really played Hobbits before. I need some help trimming and maybe some advise on what to do to make these little guys into total beasts.

Gimli, BoG
The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles (I know it could get tricky with burdens, but he needs the vitality for BRC)

Starting Fellowship
Frodo, Frenzied Fighter
Sam, Great Elf Warrior

Decksize (43, that’s why I need your help Very Happy )

Companions/Allies (6):
Frodo, Frenzied Fighter (s)
Sam, Great Elf Warrior (s)
Merry, The Tall One
Pippin, The Short One
Bilbo, Aged Ring Bearer
Rosie Cotton, Hobbiton Lass

Possessions/Artifacts (12):

Hobbit Sword x4
Gimli’s Battle Axe (1R14, static Damage +1 helps BRC)
Sting, Weapon of Heritage
Salt From the Shire x2
Mithril Coat (2R105, should help Frodo fight)
Phial of Galadriel, The Light of Earendil
Ring of Fury x2

Followers (2):
Daddy Twofoot, Next-Door Neighbor
The Gaffer, Master Gardener

Conditions (13):
Dwarven Embassy x4
A Promise x4
There and Back Again
Sudden Fury x2
Fates Entwined x2
Little Golden Flower

Events (10):
Defending the Keep x2 (recycles Dwarven Embassy)
Blood Runs Chill x3
Hobbit Intuition x3(played for the pump, not the stealth)
Sworn Companion x2


Thanks for any help you can give!
Last edited by Mumakiller on Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:31 pm; edited 2 times in total
menace64
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:43 am
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Wichita, Kansas
I may be able to help.

First off, get rid of Rosie. Allies are a big no-no in general, and she doesn’t give enough of a benefit to stay.

If you’re going for strength, drop both Salt from the Shires and Phial of Galadriel. Hobbits have good enough resistance without them.

You’re gonna want 4 Sudden Fury. They are amazing for Hobbits. Mithril-coat is a mabye, so drop it for a SF if you want to.

I also suggest a couple Dagger Strike. You’ve got the hand weapons, and it gives damage +1.

It’s a very, very interesting deck! Let me know how it turns out.

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Mumakiller
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:32 am
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Under the Bridge
Thanks for lending a hand!
Rosie? She’s gone. I’ll definetly work on getting 4 Sudden Furys in the deck, probably take out some pumps (Sworn Companion is gone). I’ll pitch the Salts of the Shire too.
As for the Phial of Galadirel, it might be necessary, if I can’t get the decksize down to 32-33 a little muster could really help. I think I’ll hold off on the Dagger Strikes for now as well. These guys should be Damage +1 anyway and we’ll have to see if that is going to be good enough during playtesting.

I think maybe that I should go with either Frodo/Sam fighters (promise, Bilbo, etc) or Merry/Pippin (Everyone Knows). That would let me boil the deck down a little more.

Any other ideas out there?

Current Deck after changes:
-2 Salt of the Shire
-1 Rosie Cotton, Hobbiton Lass
-2 Sworn Companion
+2 Sudden Fury


Gimli, BoG
The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles (I know it could get tricky with burdens, but he needs the vitality for BRC)

Starting Fellowship
Frodo, Frenzied Fighter
Sam, Great Elf Warrior

Decksize (40, that’s why I need your help Think )

Companions/Allies (5):
Frodo, Frenzied Fighter (s)
Sam, Great Elf Warrior (s)
Merry, The Tall One
Pippin, The Short One
Bilbo, Aged Ring Bearer

Possessions/Artifacts (10):

Hobbit Sword x4
Gimli’s Battle Axe (1R14, static Damage +1 helps BRC)
Sting, Weapon of Heritage
Mithril Coat (2R105, should help Frodo fight)
Phial of Galadriel, The Light of Earendil
Ring of Fury x2

Followers (2):
Daddy Twofoot, Next-Door Neighbor
The Gaffer, Master Gardener

Conditions (13):
Dwarven Embassy x4
A Promise x4
There and Back Again
Sudden Fury x4
Fates Entwined x2
Little Golden Flower

Events (Cool:
Defending the Keep x2 (recycles Dwarven Embassy)
Blood Runs Chill x3
Hobbit Intuition x3 (played for the pump, not the stealth)

Thanks for any help you can give!
Mumakiller
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:28 am
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Under the Bridge
After much debate, this deck is down to 35!

Gimli, BoG
The One Ring, Answer to All Riddles (I know it could get tricky with burdens, but he needs the vitality for BRC)

Starting Fellowship
Frodo, Frenzied Fighter
Sam, Great Elf Warrior

Decksize (35, Yay!)

Companions/Allies (3):
Frodo, Frenzied Fighter (s)
Sam, Great Elf Warrior (s)
Bilbo, Aged Ring Bearer

Possessions/Artifacts (7):
Hobbit Sword x2
Gimli’s Battle Axe (1R14)
Sting, Weapon of Heritage
Mithril Coat (2R105)
Ring of Fury x2

Followers (2):
Daddy Twofoot, Next-Door Neighbor
The Gaffer, Master Gardener

Conditions (15):
Dwarven Embassy x4
A Promise x4
Sudden Fury x4
Fates Entwined x2
Little Golden Flower

Events ( 8 )
Defending the Keep x2 (recycles Dwarven Embassy)
Blood Runs Chill x3
Hobbit Intuition x3

Bid as much as you feel comfortable with to get Green Dragon Inn and play Bilbo. Play it safe on that first move, your guys won’t be incredibly strong yet. Pair it with a shadow that is good early and it should do ok.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:10 am
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Nazgul maybe? They quit roaming on site 2 or 3, and can give your opponent a real headache. also both sides have to be the same.
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