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TheJord

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:35 am

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 486 Location: UK

I wanted to see what people thought the highest strength it is possible to pull out of minion! So far with Gothmog, Lieutenant of Morgul I have managed to make him huge! This is pretty ridiculous and required 2 Sauron decks working together to work.

Gothmog, Lieutenant of Morgul: 13
Seven controlled sites (highest amounts of legitimate sites to control)
Tower Walkway: +7
Gothmog’s Warg: +15
Besieging Pike (with initiative): +5
3x Great Siege Towers (max boost allowed): +6
Rank and File: +10 (probably not much more)
4x Beaten Back: +28

That makes him a massive 84! Shocked

Now pit him against Merry, From O’er The Brandywine Applause

Merry, From O’er The Brandywine: 3
Hobbit Sword: +4 (thanks to his text)
He has an Ent Draught and Escape on him (6 vitality)
4x Everyone Knows: +12
2x Incognito: +6
You have only 3 cards in hard, 2 of which are So Fair, So Desperate. Some how you have managed to play your enitre deck of conditions, possessions, companions and allies totalling 30 Shire cards. This is technically possible.
2x So Fair, So Desperate: +60(!!)

Merry is now an 85. Gothmog takes one wound... d'oh!

Whats the highest skirmish phase you can make?

Last edited by TheJord on Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:16 pm; edited 2 times in total

NBarden

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:54 am

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...

KILLER BOROMIR!!!!!

Boromir, Doomed Heir
The Saga of Elendil
Ranger’s Cloak
Narsil, Blade of the Faithful
Bow of Minas Tirith
Coat of Mail
Flaming Brand
Athelas x 4
Kingsfoil x 4
Shield of Boromir
Horn of Boromir
Boromir’s Gauntlets
Brego, Loyal Steed

Total: 6 vitality, 16 possessions

Base Strength: 10

Exert him 5 times: 96

Guarded City x 4 + Heirs of Gondor = 65 tokens = Strength + 132

TOTAL: 228!

Fistful of Skirmish Events?

Rally the Company x 4
Sentinels of Numenor x 4 (fierce Skirmish)

Strength: 260

Then run cards that make him defender + infinity....

I know you wanted minions, but I think that this would be interesting too....

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BattleWarg

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:29 am

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Okay, I’m not 100% sure this will top Boromir, but... (after finished comment: HAH!)

Assuming 8 card hand. Boosting: Merry, skirmishing a fierce hunter Troll or Uruk-hai (fierce skirmish), Site 9 (Valley of the Silverlode) with Strong Arms on it (making it a Plains), Frodo in skirmish, each site is a river or dwelling, and shadow has initiative with 4 or less cards in hand

Frodo, Resolute Hobbit (Ideal - 11/4/7/F) - 6 burdens from followers
Merry, The Tall One (65/8/12/T) - +1 str per possession (+13), +1 str per fierce minion, considered mounted, +1 str per Ring-bound Hobbit (+3)
Bilbo, Aged Ring-bearer (7/4/3 - Boosts each Ring-bound Hobbit by +1 s)
Sam, Steadfast Friend (6/4/4 - Boosts each other by +1 r)
Gandalf, Leader of the Company (13/4/12)
Faramir, Wizard’s Pupil (15/6/6/F - Exert to boost Merry by +2 s)
Boromir, Son of Denethor (15/7/6/F - Exert to boost Merry by +3 s)
Gimli, Unbidden Guest (10/9/5/G - Exert to boost Merry by +1 s)
Legolas, Archer of Mirkwood (10/3/5/T - Win skirmish to heal Gimli)

Allies-
Treebeard, Earthborn (Need an Ent)
Rumil, Elven Protector
Orophin, Lorien Bowman (Need 3 Elves)
Goldberry, River-daughter (6 Vit - Exert to boost Merry by +1 s)
Leod, Westfold Herdsman (3 Vit - Exert to boost mounted companion by +2 s)
--Coif Equipped (+1 Vitality)
--Rider’s Mount (to get him mounted for Thundering Host)

Followers-
Hobbiton Farmer, Lover of Pipeweed (+1 s, +1 r, +1 s per fierce minion - adds a burden) - transfer to Merry
Hobbiton Brewer, Maker of Fine Ales (+2 s - adds 2 burdens) - transfer to Merry
Rohirrim Doorwarden (+1 strength per possession) - transfer to Merry
4x Rohan Stable Master (+1 s, bearer is mounted) - transfer to Merry
Pallando, Far-travelling One (+1 s) - transfer to Merry, exerts him twice
The Gaffer, Master Gardener (+1 s) - transfer to Merry, heals him twice
Frodo Gamgee, Son of Samwise (+1 v, +1 strength per Ring-bound hobbit) - transfer to Merry

Possessions on Merry-
Salt from the Shire - +2 resistance
Horn of the Shire - +1 strength and Theoden signet
Hobbit Sword - +2 strength, thought about Merry’s Sword, but Shire

card better
Orc Armor - thought about Merry’s Armor, but ends up not worth it
4x Lembas
Elven Brooch
Bill the Pony
The Gaffer’s Pipe
Elven Cloak
Elven Rope

Other Cards in play-
Little Golden Flower - Boosts Vitality (has a hand weapon), Resistance (has a follower) and Strength (is unwounded) by 1 each of each Hobbit - Merry will not be wounded
4x Don’t Let Go - Effect for Merry when discarded: +4 strength each
4x Sudden Fury - +1 strength per token
Simple Living
4x Long Live The Halflings - +2 strength to each 7+ vitality companion each
4x Measure of Comfort - +1 resistance to each unbound companion each
4x Confronting the Eye - +1 strength to each unbound companion each
4x G for Grand - +1 strength to each companion with 6+ resistance each (Gandalf/Frodo/Merry/Faramir/Boromir)
4x Everyone Knows - +1 strength for each vitality above 3 each
4x Ent Draught - Merry, Faramir, Boromir and Gimli get +1 vitality
Escape - On Merry for +1 vitality
There and Back Again (discarded during maneuver) - Each Hobbit gets +2 strength
Stone Trolls - On Merry
Narsil, Blade of the Faithful - On Boromir for Vitality boost
Ring of Retribution - On Gimli for Vitality boost
2x Ranger’s Cloak - On Faramir and Boromir for Vitality boost
4x Fates Entwined
4x Invigorated - to heal Boromir (4 times, 8 times if a minion is roaming)
4x Thundering Host - to heal Leod (4 times)
Boromir, My Brother - On Faramir for Vitality boost
Stout and Strong - To make Merry strength +3 (assuming 3 Dwarven

tokens.
4x Endurance of Dwarves - On Gimli for vitality boost
The Saga of Elendil - On Boromir for vitality boost

In Hand-
4x Concerning Hobbits - +9 strength each
4x So Far, So Desperate - +4 threats = +40 each (I believe, may be one or two off...)

In Discard-
16 Shire

cards (including conditions discarded)
4x Everything But My Bones - removes these all for +3 strength each

So, before using anything, Merry is 67 Strength (+1 per fierce minion not assigned to Frodo or Merry), 8 Vitality with 12 resistance.

Next-
Exert Goldberry 5 times (+5 strength)
Exert Leod twice (+4 strength)
Use 2 Thundering Hosts to heal Leod fully
Exert Leod twice (+4 strength)
Use 2 Thundering Hosts to heal Leod fully
Exert Leod twice (+4 strength)
Use 4 Concerning Hobbits (+36 strength)
Use 4 So Far, So Desperate (+164 strength, 4 threats)
Use Stout and Strong (+3 strength)
Use 4 Long Live the Halflings (+8 strength to each 7+ resistance companion)
Use 4 Don’t Let Go (+16 strength)
Remove the 16 Shire

cards to use 4 Everything But My Bones (+12 strength)
Exhaust Boromir / 6 exertions (+18 strength)
Exhaust Faramir / 5 exertions (+10 strength)
Exhaust Gimli / 8 exertions (+8 strength)
Use any tokens on Sudden Fury (+1 strength per token)
Use Invigorated and exhaust Boromir (+12 strength or +24 strength with roaming minion)
Add 5 threats for Merry’s ability (+10 strength)

Merry ends up with 399 strength (+1 strength per fierce minion not skirmishing Merry or Frodo, +1 strength per token on Sudden Fury, +12 if you can spot a roaming minion during fierce skirmishes).

I’m sure I got some of this wrong, allowing some things to boost higher, and some that aren’t allowed, but still...

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:35 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

there was a thread like this on D. also a get pippin huge contest. Someone got him past 400 with sudden fury.

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NBarden

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:00 pm

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That may be high-strength, but Boromir still rules b/c of defender bonuses. Razz

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:07 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

oh and someone thought about a broken in defeat combo. it was pretty cool but max strength was low. also someone had an online game pic of a 102 strength orc.

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WitchKingBlkCapt

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:16 pm

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 409 Location: Minas Morgul

there was also one discussion where smeagol was pushed over 1000 strength.

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:18 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

details how? I want more. that sounds so sweet though. Where was this?

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