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Foresight
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:44 pm
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
When you play a card, can it spot itself? For example, if I play From Deep In Shadow, can I count the card itself as a Gollum culture card I can spot?
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elf lvr
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:50 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
First off, events never hit the table, they go straight from your hand to your discard pile, so, that card couldn’t spot itself.

And for cards with spotting requirements, no, because you have to spot the others to get the card in play.
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TheJord
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:50 pm
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 486 Location: UK
No. Before a card comes into play it is in a ’void’ where it is neither in your hand or in play and all requirements to play it, and its ensuing results, are done without it being included in any spotting requirements.

For example, Undaunted can only boost Gandalf for the twilight already in the pool, not with those used for paying for the card.
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elf lvr
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:51 pm
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Void, discard pile, same difference. Razz
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TheJord
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:53 pm
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 486 Location: UK
That was just a CRD reference, probably not helpful if I didnt point that out Laughing
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Foresight
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:14 pm
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Thanks for helping a fella’ out. I’ll grant you both a GP for the swift responses.
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corvus
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:10 am
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 1696 Location: Roaming, but dangerous!!!
TheJord wrote:
For example, Undaunted can only boost Gandalf for the twilight already in the pool, not with those used for paying for the card.


That is incorrect. All costs most be paid before any effects take place. Exerting and placing the twilight (cost) is before spotting the twilight (effect).
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TheJord
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:50 pm
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 486 Location: UK
I stand corrected. I had mistaken something I had read. My apologies.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:04 pm
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What about Gladden Homestead? Can I play it to add a token for itself?
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corvus
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:08 pm
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Nope.
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