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legoles3333
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:21 am
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 861 Location: In a place that is beyond your imagination
Anonymous Prodigy wrote:
I’ll start off with Beorn, and after the kinks have been worked out, I’ll post a couple of cards to work with him. Thumbs Up


5 • Beorn, Skin-changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Strength: 10
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
To play, spot a Gandalf Wizard.
Maneuver: Exert Beorn twice and discard a Gandalf card from hand to reveal a Shadow player’s hand; you may add 1 to discard a minion revealed.
”’He is very strong, and he is a skin-changer.’”
R52


w00t w00t new beorn!!!! anyway sweet cad,
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lem0nhead
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:29 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Anonymous Prodigy wrote:

5 • Beorn, Skin-changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Strength: 10
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
To play, spot a Gandalf Wizard.
Maneuver: Exert Beorn twice and discard a Gandalf card from hand to reveal a Shadow player’s hand; you may add 1 to discard a minion revealed.
”’He is very strong, and he is a skin-changer.’”
R52

Oof, nice stats. However exert twice to discard a minion in the maneuver seems harsh and pointless unless for the double move. Why not in the fellowship phase?

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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:36 am
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
Done. GP for your review! Very Happy
I had to put something here.
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:36 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Same stats as both my versions of Beorn. Razz Obviously, I approve. Thumbs Up

I agree with lem0n: move the ability to fellowship. Very painful that way. Twisted Evil But then limit it to once per phase, since a Beorning Axe (and its vitality boost) or decent healing would make it a bit too good.
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lem0nhead
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:37 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Anonymous Prodigy wrote:
Done. GP for your review! Very Happy


No probs AP, now its an awesome card and id consider using him over the EME one! GP for great idea.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
Same stats as both my versions of Beorn. Razz Obviously, I approve. Thumbs Up

I agree with lem0n: move the ability to fellowship. Very painful that way. Twisted Evil But then limit it to once per phase, since a Beorning Axe (and its vitality boost) or decent healing would make it a bit too good.


Aye but would you want to exhaust you best warrior? I think the risk is what would make it worth it!
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Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:40 am
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
Can I get a third opinion on this? Should his ability be limited to once per phase or not?
I had to put something here.
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:43 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
I just think that discarding ANY two minions before the Shadow player gets to use them is too much. You could get rid of Sauron and The Balrog, for instance, before they ever got a chance to hit the table!

So my opinion is do it in fellowship and limit it to once per phase. If you go back to maneuver, I think you could safely leave it unlimited, since the chances of two minions even still being there at that point are pretty slim.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
lem0nhead
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:46 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Ok AP i agree with Dain now, his examples were valid. I hadnt thought of bomb tactics. If you faced swarm or beatdown though exerting him 4 times to discard 2 minions would be harsh so it wouldnt be OP if you werent sure whether it would pay off or not. That way it would be good but risky.
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Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
WeyounsLastClone
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:47 am
Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 175 Location: The Netherlands
Anonymous Prodigy wrote:

5 • Beorn, Skin-changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Strength: 10
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
To play, spot a Gandalf Wizard.
Fellowship: Exert Beorn twice and discard a Gandalf card from hand to reveal a Shadow player’s hand; you may add 1 to discard a minion revealed.
”’He is very strong, and he is a skin-changer.’”
R52


I don’t know, the cost to do it is heavy, but it’s a very powerful effect, especially if you could do it twice. Also, he is already a powerful companion with 10 strength, 4 vitality and damgae +1. Maybe it could be adapted somehow so that’s okay when it’s used twice, for example: remove the ’add 1’ and have the discard of the minion be the Shadow Player’s choice; or, discard 2 Gandalf cards from hand instead of one.
lem0nhead
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:55 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Its gotta be the free peoples choice thats what makes it awesome. If it was make the shadow discard a minion he could get rid of a little orc or something and id never be tempted to use that over the other grimbeorn.
Ban shampoo, demand real poo.
Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer

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