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BattleWarg
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:58 pm
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location:
Hey, I’m noticing some combos (with AC’s article) - and found almost a complete one. But it’s missing a piece that I can’t find.

Is there a way to discard Smeagol in the fellowship phase (besides events)?


I’m sure it’s been seen before, but I haven’t and Erkenbrand’s Horn makes it too good...
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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:12 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Ive searched all the possiblities and i cant find a way. Whats your silly combo BW?
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"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
TheJord
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:53 am
Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 486 Location: UK
The only way I know off is an event called Serving the Precious
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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:56 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Yeah theres more than 1 way using events but BW needs something else which is intruiging me...
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Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:27 am
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
combine BW spill the beans Wink
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BattleWarg
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:20 am
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location:
Well... we start with AC’s combo: (Note: I play casual with mostly movie block cards)

Start:

Frodo, Master of the Precious
Smeagol, Slinker
Sam, Son of Hamfast
Gamling, Defender of the Hornburg

If you feel confident your opponent won’t, bid 8 (not 9, as Smeagol’ll add another burden, if I remember right). Go first to get Dammed Gate-stream as site 1.

Do the Something Slimy to play New Chapter as AC pointed out (playing any New Chapters in hand - it gets fun with 2 or more...) - Sam and Frodo allow it.

Add 1 to play Erkenbrand’s Horn from your deck if it’s not in hand.


If you can get 2 New Chapters out, each time you exert Erkenbrand and play a follower, you heal him once and Sam twice - Basically removing 2 burdens to play a follower from your deck.

If you can pull off 3 New Chapters, remove 3 burdens to play a follower from your deck.


Okay, I think there was something else in it last night, but I’m drawing a blank now...

But an ideal card would be something that can get a follower into your deck from play and discards Smeagol... As long as you have a single New Chapter in your hand, you get an infinite loop - more and you get free healing, burden removal.

Also, if you can get a combo that pulls it off, that would be useful, too.


EDIT: Okay, you do add twilight, true, but you can combime with AC’s follower deck to clear it out.
Last edited by BattleWarg on Tue May 15, 2007 8:24 am; edited 1 time in totalOur time here is ending...

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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:23 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Eh? I see the idea but i got lost where u say u need to discard smeagol and move a follower from play to your deck... Please help me! Wink
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Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
BattleWarg
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:36 am
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
Eh? I see the idea but i got lost where u say u need to discard smeagol move a follower from play to your deck... Please help me! Wink

Okay, I’m not quite sure why I need to get Smeagol played again and again, that might be the missing card that I forgot...


Assuming you have 1 New Chapter in hand:

Start with the 4 companions I listed, bid 8, start Dammed Gate-stream and add a burden for Smeagol.

Start of the fellowship phase actions:
Dammed Gate-stream: Play Something Slimy to play New Chapter from your deck.
Gamling, Defender of the Hornburg: Add 1 to play Erkenbrand’s Horn from your deck.

Fellowship:
Exert Sam x3 to remove 3 burdens (6 burdens remain)
Play New Chapter from hand (any copies in hand, but we assume only 1)
Exert Erkenbrand to play a follower.
2x New Chapter trigger - Heal Erkenbrand once (fully healed) and Sam twice (1 wound)
Exert Sam to remove a burden (5 burdens)
...

If we can discard Smeagol to get a follower from play to your deck (whether directly, through your discard pile or through your hand) -

Do so.
Add a burden to play Smeagol using Frodo’s text, and add another burden.
Exert Sam twice to remove those 2 burdens.
Exert Gamling to play the same follower to heal him once and Sam twice.


It gets better with more New Chapter, as you get another wound healed each time.
Our time here is ending...

What did you want to see before the end?
It will be made in the Request-a-card Set #1 (name ideas also welcome Smile).
lem0nhead
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:39 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Ok yup i got the idea but why do you want to add the burdens with smeagol just so sam can remove them? The loops would only be infinite if there was a way like you say of getting a follower back inot your deck which i dont think there is. Otherwise the loops last for as long as there are followers in your deck. The smeagol discard is unecessary isnt it? Or am i being a bit thick?
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Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:18 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
to me it seems unnecessary too...
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(mm)"SoP: you will always be the Official CC Spammer in my heart"
"DáinIronfoot"
Spammers really are amazing creatures. You can learn all there is to know about their ways in a month. And yet, after a hundred years, they can still surprise you. Razz

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