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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:09 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Well, I would hardly say I’m a Dwarven expert, but I’ll give it a shot....

NBarden wrote:
3 •Dwalin, Son of Fundin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 7
Damage +1.
Balin is twilight cost -2.
Skirmish: Exert Dwalin to make Balin damage +1.

I would say the twilight reduction is OP, but we have the sons of Elrond to thank for this being okay as-is. I think I’d either make that skirmish ability exert twice or be limited to once or twice per skirmish, though. Dwarves DO have easy damage bonuses, though...it MIGHT be okay to leave it.

NBarden wrote:
3 •Balin, Son of Fundin Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 7
Damage +1.
Dwalin is twilight cost -2.
Skirmish: Exert Balin to make Dwalin strength +2.

I’d definately limit the skirmish ability here, maybe by simply just saying "(limit +4)", but he’s okay otherwise.

NBarden wrote:
3 Flight to the Tunnel Dwarven
Event • Maneuver
Stealth.
Exert a Dwarf to spot a minion. Until the regroup phase, that minion may not be assigned to skirmishes.

Cool. MAYBE require spotting a couple Dwarves to avoid this being used in any ol’ fellowship with Gimli, though with the relatively high cost that may not be necessary.

NBarden wrote:
BTW, a new bit of info. After a culture is completed, I will give it some lore.

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NBarden
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:04 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
2 •Fili, Young Dwarf Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
While you can spot Kili, Fili is damage +1.
Assignment: Exert Kili and assign a minion to skirmish Fili to make that minion lose special abilities until the regroup phase.
Fili and Kili, however, who were young (for dwarves)...came out more or less smiling.

2 •Kili, Sharp-Eyed Dwarf Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
While you can spot Fili, Kili gains hunter 1.
Maneuver: Exert Fili to make the shadow player choose one: return a minion to its owners hand, remove a threat, or remove 2.
The end of their argument was that they sent Fili and Kili to look for better shelter. They had sharp eyes, and being the youngest of the dwarves...they usually got these sort of jobs.

2 Barrel-Riding Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Stealth.
Spot Bilbo and discard a Dwarven or Gandalf possession to cancel a skirmish involving a Dwarf.
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macheteman
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:19 am
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
NBarden wrote:
2 •Fili, Young Dwarf Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
While you can spot Kili, Fili is damage +1.
Assignment: Exert Kili and assign a minion to skirmish Fili to make that minion lose special abilities until the regroup phase.

2 •Kili, Sharp-Eyed Dwarf Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
While you can spot Fili, Kili is strength +1.
Maneuver: Exert Kili to make the shadow player choose one, return a minion to its owners hand, remove a threat, or remove 1.

2 Barrel-Riding Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Stealth.
Spot Bilbo and discard a Dwarven or Gandalf possession to cancel a skirmish involving a Dwarf.


my overall impression is that they are over powered. kili is fine. fili’s ability should exert kili twice, otherwise it’s too easy to do. and barrel riding is too easy as well especially since dwarves are loaded with cheap accessable possessions. but good ideas Thumbs Up i like the cards.

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Incognito
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:27 am
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 8 Location: You wish you knew.
NBarden wrote:
2 •Fili, Young Dwarf Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
While you can spot Kili, Fili is damage +1.
Assignment: Exert Kili and assign a minion to skirmish Fili to make that minion lose special abilities until the regroup phase.
I disagree with MM; exerting twice seems too high a cost. Although yours does seem a bit low. I’d say exert and add a threat.

2 •Kili, Sharp-Eyed Dwarf Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
While you can spot Fili, Kili is strength +1.
Maneuver: Exert Kili to make the shadow player choose one, return a minion to its owners hand, remove a threat, or remove 1.
Now the threat thing would tie in here, as well. If they can’t (or won’t) remove 1, then they’d have to return a minion or remove one of the threats.

2 Barrel-Riding Dwarven
Event • Skirmish
Stealth.
Spot Bilbo and discard a Dwarven or Gandalf possession to cancel a skirmish involving a Dwarf.
Seems quite fine. No worse than No Visitors, certainly.
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:58 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Edited Kili, I had made an error. It was supposed to be exert Fili
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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:04 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
I would make Kili’s ability remove 2. The rest look great! Thumbs Up
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Thranduil
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:36 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I think I’d actually swap their strength and resistance values as their abilities are quite powerful, but I think that’s mostly personal preference

Interesting cards.

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NBarden
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:37 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Time for an artifact.

4 •The Arkenstone, Treasure of the House of Thror Dwarven
Artifact • Support Area
To play, spot Bilbo and Thorin.
Bilbo is strength +1 for each of the following races you can spot: Dwarf, Elf, Man.
Each Dwarf is damage +1 and resistance -1.
Each Gandalf man is strength +1 and resistance -1.
Each Elf gains hunter 1 and resistance -1.
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4 Quiet as Can Be Dwarven
Event • Fellowship or Maneuver
Stealth. Toil 1.
Spot a Hobbit and a Dwarf to remove 3 (or 5 if you can spot Bilbo).
The dwarves could not, of course, compare with the hobbit in real stealth, and they made a deal of puffing and shuffling which echoes magnified alarmingly, but though every now and again Bilbo stopped and listened, not a sound stirred below.
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macheteman
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:16 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
NBarden wrote:
Time for an artifact.

4 •The Arkenstone, Treasure of the House of Thror Dwarven
Artifact • Support Area
To play, spot Bilbo and Thorin.
Bilbo is strength +1 for each of the following races you can spot: Dwarf, Elf, Man.
Each Dwarf is damage +1 and resistance -1.
Each Gandalf man is strength +1 and resistance -1.
Each Elf gains hunter 1 and resistance -1.\

cool. i like this card.

2 Quiet as Can Be Dwarven
Event • Fellowship or Maneuver
Stealth. Toil 1.
Spot a Hobbit and a Dwarf to remove 4 (or 8 if you can spot Bilbo).


are you kidding me!! up to 8 twilight removed in the fellowship phase. that would kill almost every shadow. no, maybe if it was remove 2 or 3 if you can spot bilbo.

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NBarden
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:29 pm
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Twilight cost raised, and I limited the ability.
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