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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:00 pm |
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sickofpalantirs wrote:
 Lothlorien Archer, 
Defender of the Golden Wood.
Companion • Elf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Defender +1.
Skirmish: Exert Lothlorien Archer to make a minion
strength -2.
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give him archer instead of defender +1 and make it a wounded minion
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| Gate Troll |
![]() Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:15 pm |
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Okay guys, a lot of reviews contrasted- Lem0nhead thought I should make
Hobbit Archer, unique NBarden thinks that is, as he put it "But being unique,  can now throw out a grand total of 1 archery. Useless, make it do something cool." And lem0head thought that a non-unique archer was, "too good." And SoP thinks that the Lothlorien Archer should be Archer, and NBarden agrees with Lem0n. Geez. Suffice it to say, the strength -2 is the archery ’shot’. I’ll ditch the defender stuff. |
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| Gate Troll |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:13 am |
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 •Variag Captain, 
Battle-Hardened Warrior
Minion • Man
Strength: 8
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Variag. Captain. Hunter 2.
Shadow: When you play this minion you may
discard a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
Variag Scout
Minion • Man
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site:4
Variag. Hunter 4.
Each time this minion wins a skirmish,
you may discard a a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
•Battle-Hardened Foe
Condition • Support Area
Shadow: Each time you play a
minion add a token here (or add two
tokens if that minion is a Variag). Maneuver: Remove X tokens from
this card to discard X cards from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck (limit 3).
Variag Poleaxe
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Site -1
Bearer must be a .
If bearer is a Variag, bearer
is Damage +1.
 •Half-Troll of the South,
Savage Monster
Minion • Half-Troll
Strength: 11
Vitality 3
Damage +1. Hunter 4.
Shadow: This minion is strength +X until the regroup
phase where X is the number of Variags you have played.
Regroup: At the start of the Regroup
phase your opponent must discard 3 cards from the top of their
draw deck for each card in their dead pile.
Reviews and Critisiscm Welcome -GT |
| Last edited by Gate Troll on Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:10 pm; edited 9 times in total"Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains that victory."-George S. Patton. |
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:32 am |
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Gate Troll wrote: Variag Captain,
Battle-Hardened Warrior
Minion • Man
Strength: 8
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Variag. Captain. Hunter 2.
Shadow: To play this minion, discard
a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck, or add a burden.
Needs rephrasing; When you play this minion, discard a card from the top of the free peoples draw deck or add a burden. But id remove the burden bit. WAY too powerful to get a burden just for playing him. If he’s not unique and you havent got a previous copy of him you dont need a subtitle.
Variag Scout
Minion • Man
Strength: 4
Vitality: 2
Site:4
Variag. Hunter 6. Ambush 3.
Each time Variag Scout wins a skirmish,
discard a a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
Cut the ambush down to 1 and make it hunter 5.
Battle-Hardened Foe
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play a Variag
add 2 tokens here. Each time you play a
minion which is not a Variag add only one token
here. Remove X tokens from this card to discard
X cards from the top of your opponent’s draw deck (limit 4).
Rephrase it to "Each time you play a minion add a token here (or 2 tokens if that minion is Variag)."
The ability needs a phase such as Shadow: At the moment you cant use it because you havent said when to activate it.
As it is its way too powerful, this card alone could deck your opponent out in half a game with your other variags discarding. Need to say something like Shadow: Remove 4 tokens from here to discard the top card from the free peoples players draw deck.
 Variag Poleaxe
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Site -1
Bearer must be a .
If bearer is a Variag, bearer
is Damage +1.
If youre making it damage +1 id drop the site -1 and drop the strength to +1.
•Half-Troll of the South,
Savage Monster
Minion • Half-Troll
Strength: 11
Vitality 3
Damage +1. Hunter 4.
Play X Variags to make this minion
Strength +X. Regroup. Discard a 3 cards for each
card in you opponent’s dead pile.
The way of phrasing this minion how you want it to work is to say: This minion is strength +1 for each Variag you spot OR Shadow: Play a Variag to make this minion strenght +1 until the regroup phase. But the second one is probably too powerful. As it is it doesnt make any sense and doesnt work. Dont understand what the regroup ability does either. Damage +1 Hunter 4 and Regroup: all need bold.
Reviews and Critisiscm Welcome -GT |
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| Gate Troll |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:47 am |
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| I made some changes. |
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:52 am |
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Gate Troll wrote: Variag Captain,
Battle-Hardened Warrior
Minion • Man
Strength: 8
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Variag. Captain. Hunter 2.
Shadow: To play this minion, discard
a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
Still needs phrasing how i said.
Variag Scout
Minion • Man
Strength: 4
Vitality: 2
Site:4
Variag. Hunter 6.
Skirmish: Each time Variag Scout wins a skirmish,
discard a a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
Dont need the Skirmish:
Battle-Hardened Foe
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play a Variag
add 2 tokens here. Each time you play a
minion add a token here (or add two tokens if that minion is a Variag).
Remove X tokens from this card to discard
X cards from the top of your opponent’s draw deck (limit 3).
Need to remove the first line. Needs a phase still for the action. And its still too powerful.
Variag Poleaxe
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Site -1
Bearer must be a .
If bearer is a Variag, bearer
is Damage +1.
Too powerful.
•Half-Troll of the South,
Savage Monster
Minion • Half-Troll
Strength: 11
Vitality 3
Damage +1. Hunter 4.
Shadow: Play X Variags to make this minion
Strength +X. Regroup: Your opponent must discard
3 cards from hand for each card in your opponent’s dead pile.
Still doesnt work how you want it to. Phrase it one of the ways i suggested. And like i said unless you state it the strength wont last until the regroup.
And the last ability shouldnt have Regroup: It should just say At the start of the regroup phase. Or i would personally just edit yours to say Regroup: Exert this minion to make an opponent discard......3 cards from the top of the draw deck for..... Doing it from hand seems pointless.
Reviews and Critisiscm Welcome -GT |
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"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
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| LeoKula |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:53 am |
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Not a DC expert, but I think the assignment orc is too powerful. I can’t remember any minion before in the game with a so clean assignment special ability. Rare cards like Mouth of Sauron, Shadowy Mount, FOTR Toldea, all of them need something to get them going. You can splash him in any deck for an extra wound and to take the biggest guy out of your way, and it’s U.
I think you should add a very easy way for the freeps to get around his ability, actually make it more like a bonus because being an archer is already great for a 3/6/2 U minion.
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| Gate Troll |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:56 am |
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I’ve reworded it:
I wrote: I thought I might as well get back into DC-making. 
Orthanc Minion 
Minion • Uruk-hai
Strength: 10
Vitality: 2
Site: 5
Damage +1. Skirmish:
Exert X Uruk-hai to make Orthanc Minion strength +X
(limit +4).
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Orcish Sniper 
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Archer. Lurker.
Assignment: Assign this minion
to a companion (except the Ringbearer.)
The free-peoples player can add or discard
a card from hand to prevent this.
U
•Variag Troop,
Army of Khand
Minion • Man
Strength: 13
Vitality: 5
Site: 4
Variag. Fierce. Hunter 3 Ambush 2.
Each time this minion wins a skirmish you may
spot X Variags to discard X cards from the top of the free-peoples draw deck.
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Lothlorien Archer,
Defender of the Golden Wood.
Companion • Elf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Archer.
Skirmish: Exert Lothlorien Archer to make a minion
strength -2.
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Hobbit Archer
Follower
Aid-Add a threat. Bearer must be a companion.
Bearer is an Archer.
Reviews and Criticism welcome! -GT |
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| LeoKula |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:04 am |
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Now it looks great   |
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:19 am |
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Gate Troll wrote: Variag Captain,
Battle-Hardened Warrior
Minion • Man
Strength: 8
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Variag. Captain. Hunter 2.
Shadow: To play this minion, discard
a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
The subtitle should come before the culture icon, and generally, only unique characters have subtitles anyway. I think he SHOULD be unique based on his text, so add a uniqueness dot (•) before his name. I agree with lem0n: his text needs a little rephrasing.
For me, the card would look like this:
•Variag Captain, Battle-Hardened Warrior
Minion • Man
Strength: 8
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Variag. Captain. Hunter 2.
Shadow: When you play this minion, you may discard a card from the top of your opponent’s draw deck.
Overall, though, a neat card. Just needs a little rephrasing and such.
Gate Troll wrote: Variag Scout
Minion • Man
Strength: 4
Vitality: 2
Site:4
Variag. Hunter 6.
Skirmish: Each time Variag Scout wins a skirmish,
discard a a card from the top of your opponent’s
draw deck.
I think it would be better if the ability was optional, like this:
Each time this minion wins a skirmish, you may discard a a card from the top of your opponent’s draw deck.
Notice I also changed "Variag Scout" in the text to "this minion". I did this because, if the minion is NOT unique, it should say simply "this minion" in the text--always--instead of the name. The name is ONLY used in the game text for unique character. I also chopped out "Skirmish" because it’s not needed.
Gate Troll wrote: Battle-Hardened Foe
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play a Variag
add 2 tokens here. Each time you play a
minion add a token here (or add two tokens if that minion is a Variag).
Remove X tokens from this card to discard
X cards from the top of your opponent’s draw deck (limit 3).
A little rephrasing again:
Each time you play a minion, add a token here (or add two tokens if that minion is a Variag).
Shadow: Remove X tokens from this card to discard X cards from the top of your opponent’s draw deck (limit 3).
You had some extra text in there I cut out. I added a phase to the ability, though if you don’t want to do it in Shadow, then just do the phase you DO want instead. I’d also make this condition unique, as it’s VERY powerful.
Gate Troll wrote: Variag Poleaxe
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Site -1
Bearer must be a .
If bearer is a Variag, bearer
is Damage +1.
Needs to say "Bearer must be a minion". I might drop the site number reduction or make it cost , though, as it’s pretty powerful.
Gate Troll wrote: •Half-Troll of the South,
Savage Monster
Minion • Half-Troll
Strength: 11
Vitality 3
Damage +1. Hunter 4.
Shadow: Play X Variags to make this minion
Strength +X. Regroup: Your opponent must discard
3 cards from hand for each card in your opponent’s dead pile.
Again, subtitle before culture, like I did with Variag Captain, Battle-Hardened Warrior.
Rewording suggestions:
Shadow: Play another Variag to make this minion strength +1 until the regroup phase (limit 3).
At the start of the regroup phase, the Free Peoples player must discard 3 cards from hand for each card in their dead pile.
I added a limit to the Shadow ability and also reworded it...it wouldn’t work the way you had it written originally. I also tweaked the regroup ability so it’s clearer what you’re trying to do.
Neat ideas...I’m just trying to help you express them. |
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