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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:35 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
AgentDrake wrote:


1 Beat Into Dust Sauron
Event – Skirmish
Remove a threat to make a Sauron minion with damage +X strength +X. (Limit +4)
“His banner… they trod into the mire of his blood.”

Nice but a bit costly. Depending on how easy it is for you to add threats id make it cost 0.

1 Dark Fire Sauron
Condition
Strength -2
To play, spot a Balrog and remove a threat.
Bearer must be a companion (except the hero), limit 1 per bearer.
Each time the company moves, bearer must exert.
Shadow… and Flame.

Not a reprint but a good new version of it. Nice. Screams for unique as 4 of these on a fellowship is just plain wrong.

2 Trod Into The Mire Sauron
Condition – Support Area
To play, spot 2 Balrogs.
When you play this condition, you may place a Sauron token here.
At the start of each regroup phase, if a companion was killed this turn, you may remove 2 tokens from here to add a burden.
Shadow: Remove a threat to reinforce a Sauron token here.
“…They beat him into the dust….”

Nice, but only if balrogs need burdens and you can reinforce tokens. Are they part of their schemes?

0 *White Flame Sauron
Condition – Support Area
Strength +1
Vitality +1
Resistance +1
Each time bearer wins a skirmish, he or she must exert.
Each time bearer loses a skirmish, add a burden.
Response: If a Balrog wins a skirmish, transfer this condition from your support area to a companion that Balrog was skirmishing.
“…A white flame sprang up from the helm of Fingolfin as it was cloven.”

Oof mental card with lots of power and potential. Not sure what to make of it but ill say its bold! Seeing as its unique its quite cool.

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AgentDrake
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:56 pm
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 667 Location: Halfway between eccentric and insane...
Thanks everyone; changes made. Is Dark Fire still too powerful, or is it good now?

Alrighty, here we have the new keyword: Guard [Culture] X.
What this means is "While you can spot a/another [Culture] minion, this minion is strength +X."
The "a/another" is because there could be Orc cards which are Guard Sauron (While you can spot A Sauron minion...) or Guard Orc (While you can spot ANOTHER Orc minion.)

Quick example:
An Orc minion which is Guard Orc 2 is strength +2 while another Orc minion is out. Kill that other minion, and the guard loses the strength bonus.

There can also be FP guard against Shadow (ie, companion with Guard Orc) or Shadow Guard against FP (ie, minion with Guard Snow)


Okay, so here are three more cards, all Balrog-related, still, but also starting to bump into some other stuff. Like Glaurung....

0 * Boast Made Vain Sauron
Condition – Maneuver
To play, Spot Glaurung or exert two Balrogs.
When you play this condition, the Free Peoples player may discard the top two cards of his or her draw deck to discard it.
Each Free Peoples maneuver action gains the cost “Add a burden or a threat.”
Discard this condition at the end of the turn.
“‘Then you are fools….’”

7 Troll-Guard of Gothmog Sauron
Minion - Troll
Strength 12
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is strength +2.
Only the Troll-Guards of the Balrog Lord could stand against Hurin.

7 Troll Guardian Sauron
Minion – Troll
Strength 10
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is damage +1.
The trolls of Gothmog ground the Elvenking into the dust.
Last edited by AgentDrake on Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:26 pm; edited 1 time in totalNever kid about politicians. The more bizarre the joke, the more likely it is to come true.
legoles3333
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:43 am
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 861 Location: In a place that is beyond your imagination
AgentDrake wrote:
Thanks everyone; changes made. Is Dark Fire still too powerful, or is it good now?

looks good

Alrighty, here we have the new keyword: Guard [Culture] X.
What this means is "While you can spot a/another [Culture] minion, this minion is strength +X."
The "a/another" is because there could be Orc cards which are Guard Sauron (While you can spot A Sauron minion...) or Guard Orc (While you can spot ANOTHER Orc minion.)

Quick example:
An Orc minion which is Guard Orc 2 is strength +2 while another Orc minion is out. Kill that other minion, and the guard loses the strength bonus.

There can also be FP guard against Shadow (ie, companion with Guard Orc) or Shadow Guard against FP (ie, minion with Guard Snow)

kinda confusing, but sounds cool

Okay, so here are three more cards, all Balrog-related, still, but also starting to bump into some other stuff. Like Glaurung....

0 Boast Made Vain Sauron
Event – Maneuver
Spot Glaurung or exert two Balrogs to make each Free Peoples maneuver action gain the cost “Add a burden or a threat.” The Free Peoples player may discard a card from the top of his or her draw deck to prevent this.
“‘Then you are fools….’”

nice

8 Troll-Guard of Gothmog Sauron
Minion - Troll
Strength 12
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is strength +2.
Only the Troll-Guards of the Balrog Lord could stand against Hurin.

um ok

8 Troll Guardian Sauron
Minion – Troll
Strength 10
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is damage +1.
The trolls of Gothmog ground the Elvenking into the dust.


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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:17 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
AgentDrake wrote:
Thanks everyone; changes made. Is Dark Fire still too powerful, or is it good now?

Yeah just right now.

Alrighty, here we have the new keyword: Guard [Culture] X.
What this means is "While you can spot a/another [Culture] minion, this minion is strength +X."

Ok thats quite cool i like it.

0 Boast Made Vain Sauron
Event – Maneuver
Spot Glaurung or exert two Balrogs to make each Free Peoples maneuver action gain the cost “Add a burden or a threat.” The Free Peoples player may discard a card from the top of his or her draw deck to prevent this.
“‘Then you are fools….’”

Awesome idea but discarding one card is too easy, make it 2 even though i hate discard cards it needs making better. Is "passing" a maneuver action?? Razz

8 Troll-Guard of Gothmog Sauron
Minion - Troll
Strength 12
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is strength +2.
Only the Troll-Guards of the Balrog Lord could stand against Hurin.

Nice, not sure if he shouldnt cost 7 though even with his text.

8 Troll Guardian Sauron
Minion – Troll
Strength 10
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is damage +1.
The trolls of Gothmog ground the Elvenking into the dust.

This should definately cost less, 7 for sure even with toil as its only 1.

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Thranduil
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:45 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
AgentDrake wrote:
Alrighty, here we have the new keyword: Guard [Culture] X.
What this means is "While you can spot a/another [Culture] minion, this minion is strength +X."
The "a/another" is because there could be Orc cards which are Guard Sauron (While you can spot A Sauron minion...) or Guard Orc (While you can spot ANOTHER Orc minion.)

That is unnecessary. Simply change the keyword definition to ’another’, and it would work in all situations. It’s interesting, reminds me a lot of soem mechanics in MTG.

Just a couple of thoughts: why don’t you do ’guard’ for races as well? And you could have something like ’Guard Sauron Damage +1’.

AgentDrake wrote:
0 Boast Made Vain Sauron
Event – Maneuver
Spot Glaurung or exert two Balrogs to make each Free Peoples maneuver action gain the cost “Add a burden or a threat.” The Free Peoples player may discard a card from the top of his or her draw deck to prevent this.
“‘Then you are fools….’”

The get out clause is too easy for a card with such a high cost. Hilariously funny. Does the added cost stack? If so, it’s too good and I’d make it a unique condition that discards in the regroup phase.

AgentDrake wrote:
8 Troll-Guard of Gothmog Sauron
Minion - Troll
Strength 12
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is strength +2.
Only the Troll-Guards of the Balrog Lord could stand against Hurin.

Works for me. Possibly should be 7.

AgentDrake wrote:
8 Troll Guardian Sauron
Minion – Troll
Strength 10
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is damage +1.
The trolls of Gothmog ground the Elvenking into the dust.

I agree with Lem0n. Alternativley, you could up both vitalities to 4.

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:16 am
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
AgentDrake wrote:

0 Boast Made Vain Sauron
Event – Maneuver
Spot Glaurung or exert two Balrogs to make each Free Peoples maneuver action gain the cost “Add a burden or a threat.” The Free Peoples player may discard a card from the top of his or her draw deck to prevent this.
“‘Then you are fools….’”
kinda worthless considering they already have had a chance to play an event. you could make it shadow

8 Troll-Guard of Gothmog Sauron
Minion - Troll
Strength 12
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is strength +2.
Only the Troll-Guards of the Balrog Lord could stand against Hurin.
GP for the italics. cut cost to 7

8 Troll Guardian Sauron
Minion – Troll
Strength 10
Vitality 3
Site 4
Damage +1. Toil 1. Guard Sauron 2. (While you can spot another Sauron minion, this minion is strength +2.)
While you can spot a Balrog, this minion is damage +1.
The trolls of Gothmog ground the Elvenking into the dust.

nice! but cut cost to 6
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AgentDrake
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:34 pm
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 667 Location: Halfway between eccentric and insane...
Wow. Been a long time.
I’m back temporarily, but I leave again pretty soon, and I don’t think I’ll have any chances to update this while I’m in England, soooo.....

Anyhow, here’s another group. I haven’t looked at all at AP’s NiHH set, so I don’t know if any of my stuff is ridiculously similar to his or not....

...I doubt mine are as good. Oh well. Crying or Very sad

Anyhow, here’s some more Sauron:

0 Deep Dungeons Sauron
Condition – Support Area
To play, spot a Sauron minion.
While there are no more than two cards stacked here, each time your Sauron Guard wins a skirmish, you may remove 2 to stack that minion here.
Shadow: Remove a threat to play a minion from here as if from hand. Then discard this condition or remove 1.


1 Troll’s Warspear Sauron
Possession – Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Sauron Troll.
When you play this possession, you may remove a threat to add 2.
The spear wielded by a troll is seldom hampered by mere metal armor.

1 Twisted Creatures Sauron
Event – Skirmish
Choose one: Make a Sauron minion gain Guard Orc 2 or make an Orc minion gain Guard Sauron 2.
The armies of Morgoth were filled with trolls and orcs, and other twisted creatures.[/i]
Last edited by AgentDrake on Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:28 pm; edited 2 times in totalNever kid about politicians. The more bizarre the joke, the more likely it is to come true.
lem0nhead
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:29 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
AgentDrake wrote:
Wow. Been a long time.
I’m back temporarily, but I leave again pretty soon, and I don’t think I’ll have any chances to update this while I’m in England, soooo.....

Where will you be in England AD???

Anyhow, here’s some more Sauron:

0 Deep Dungeons Sauron
Condition – Support Area
To play, spot a Sauron minion.
While there are no more than two cards stacked here, each time your Sauron Guard minion wins a skirmish, you may remove 2 to stack that minion here.
Shadow: Remove a threat to play a minion from here as if from hand. Then discard this condition or remove 1.

1 Troll’s Warspear Sauron
Possession – Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a troll.
When you play this possession, you may remove a threat to add 2.
The spear wielded by a troll is seldom hampered by mere metal armor.

Yeah sound.

1 Twisted Armies Sauron
Event – Skirmish
Choose one: Make a Sauron minion gain Guard Orc 2 or make an Orc minion gain Guard Sauron 2.
The armies of Morgoth were filled with trolls and orcs, and other twisted creatures.[/i]


Cool. Nice batch.


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"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:15 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
AgentDrake wrote:
Wow. Been a long time.
I’m back temporarily, but I leave again pretty soon, and I don’t think I’ll have any chances to update this while I’m in England, soooo.....

Awesome. I’d LOVE to travel overseas.

AgentDrake wrote:
Anyhow, here’s another group. I haven’t looked at all at AP’s NiHH set, so I don’t know if any of my stuff is ridiculously similar to his or not....

...I doubt mine are as good. Oh well. Crying or Very sad

Ah, don’t be so hard on yourself. Let US be the judges of that. Smile

AgentDrake wrote:
0 Deep Dungeons Sauron
Condition – Support Area
To play, spot a Sauron minion.
While there are no more than two cards stacked here, each time your Sauron Guard minion wins a skirmish, you may remove 2 to stack that minion here.
Shadow: Remove a threat to play a minion from here as if from hand. Then discard this condition or remove 1.

Assuming you don’t have any Sauron FP cards, you can probably drop "minion" after the "Guard". Otherwise, pretty nifty. Thumbs Up

AgentDrake wrote:
1 Troll’s Warspear Sauron
Possession – Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a troll.
When you play this possession, you may remove a threat to add 2.
The spear wielded by a troll is seldom hampered by mere metal armor.

"Troll" should be capitalized, but I like this weapon. Helps alleviate the Troll’s cost a little, which is always a good thing.

AgentDrake wrote:
1 Twisted Armies Sauron
Event – Skirmish
Choose one: Make a Sauron minion gain Guard Orc 2 or make an Orc minion gain Guard Sauron 2.
The armies of Morgoth were filled with trolls and orcs, and other twisted creatures.[/i]

Awesome! I love cards that make the old cultures work with the new. Good stuff. GP

Yeah, don’t worry about the shadow of AP or anyone else. You’re doing just fine. Cool
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:05 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
AgentDrake wrote:

0 Deep Dungeons Sauron
Condition – Support Area
To play, spot a Sauron minion.
While there are no more than two cards stacked here, each time your Sauron Guard minion wins a skirmish, you may remove 2 to stack that minion here.
Shadow: Remove a threat to play a minion from here as if from hand. Then discard this condition or remove 1.
I guess

1 Troll’s Warspear Sauron
Possession – Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a troll.
When you play this possession, you may remove a threat to add 2.
The spear wielded by a troll is seldom hampered by mere metal armor.
maybe add 2 or exert a companion.

1 Twisted Armies Sauron
Event – Skirmish
Choose one: Make a Sauron minion gain Guard Orc 2 or make an Orc minion gain Guard Sauron 2.
The armies of Morgoth were filled with trolls and orcs, and other twisted creatures.[/i]

whats guard do again?
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