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lem0nhead
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:09 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
DáinIronfoot wrote:
This is definately one of the most powerful cards I have ever made, but I THINK it’s balanced. You tell me...enjoy!

2Lies and Deception Isengard
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot Saruman, the twilight cost of each Free Peoples condition is +1.
Shadow: Spot an Isengard minion and discard this condition to play an Isengard card from your discard pile.
“‘I was lulled by the words of Saruman the Wise; but I should have sought for the truth sooner, and our peril would now be less.’”

Its not very likely any conditions will be played when saruman is out to be fair, unless its the follower. The ability is REALLY good, maybe add another cost to it? Dunno.

And here’s a reprinted card that works pretty well with it:

4 Hollowing of Isengard Isengard (reprint)
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an Isengard Orc.
Shadow: Discard this condition to add 3.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:37 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
DáinIronfoot wrote:
y!
2Lies and Deception Isengard
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot Saruman, the twilight cost of each Free Peoples condition is +1.
Shadow: Spot an Isengard minion and discard this condition to play an Isengard card from your discard pile.
“‘I was lulled by the words of Saruman the Wise; but I should have sought for the truth sooner, and our peril would now be less.’”
I don’t see why it is so powerful...

good yes, most powerful? tech no.
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legoles3333
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:39 am
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 861 Location: In a place that is beyond your imagination
DáinIronfoot wrote:
The blade has been tweaked as recommended, lem0n. Thanks, guys! Thumbs Up

Now that we’re playing all these Orcs, let’s get some more out of them, eh? Twisted Evil

1The Muster of Isengard Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time you play an Isengard Orc, add an Isengard token here.
Shadow: Remove 2 Isengard tokens from here to play an Isengard minion; that minion’s twilight cost is -1.
Shadow: Remove 3 Isengard tokens from here to play an Isengard Orc from your draw deck.
“‘Build me an army worthy of Mordor!’”

sweet!

0 Our Time Is At Hand Isengard
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Saruman.
Each time the fellowship moves, if you can spot Saruman or an Isengard Orc, you may remove 1 to draw a card.
“‘Wolves and orcs were housed in Isengard, for Saruman was mustering a great force on his own account, in rivalry of Sauron and not in his service yet.’”
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:38 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
This is definately one of the most powerful cards I have ever made, but I THINK it’s balanced. You tell me...enjoy!

2Lies and Deception Isengard
Condition • Support Area
While you can spot Saruman, the twilight cost of each Free Peoples condition is +1.
Shadow: Spot an Isengard minion and discard this condition to play an Isengard card from your discard pile.
“‘I was lulled by the words of Saruman the Wise; but I should have sought for the truth sooner, and our peril would now be less.’”

Saruman, Servant of Sauron? I think its a little underpowered.

And here’s a reprinted card that works pretty well with it:

4 Hollowing of Isengard Isengard (reprint)
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an Isengard Orc.
Shadow: Discard this condition to add 3.
“‘Rip them all down!’”

Reprint? Yeah, its a great card.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:37 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
There seem to be some mixed opinions on Lies and Deception, which usually means it’s fair and balanced. Smile

So, here’s a couple new ones. Enjoy!

1 The Citadel of Saruman Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot Saruman and another Isengard minion to add 3.
“Westward he looked and saw...Orthanc, the pinnacle of Isengard, like a black spike.”

This is a semi-reprint of Tower of Orthanc, though hopefully a little more useful. Thumbs Up

1 News of Their Journey Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Shadow: Spot Saruman and reveal your hand to reveal the Free Peoples player’s hand.
Shadow: Exert Saruman to reveal a card at random from the Free Peoples player’s hand. The Free Peoples player must place that card on top of or beneath their draw deck. Discard this condition.
“‘But Saruman has many ways of learning news. Do you remember the birds?’”

Who says only Elves have good telepathy? Twisted Evil
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:39 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:
There seem to be some mixed opinions on Lies and Deception, which usually means it’s fair and balanced. Smile

So, here’s a couple new ones. Enjoy!

1 The Citadel of Saruman Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot Saruman and another Isengard minion to add 3.
“Westward he looked and saw...Orthanc, the pinnacle of Isengard, like a black spike.”

This is a semi-reprint of Tower of Orthanc, though hopefully a little more useful. Thumbs Up

Nah. Not really. Unless you turn out some sort of Isengard Forced March.

1News of Their Journey Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Shadow: Spot Saruman and reveal your hand to reveal the Free Peoples player’s hand.
Shadow: Exert Saruman to reveal a card at random from the Free Peoples player’s hand and place it on top of that player’s draw deck.
“‘But Saruman has many ways of learning news. Do you remember the birds?’”

Who says only Elves have good telepathy? Twisted Evil

Nobody. Gandalf does pretty well to. But this has already been tried and The Palantir of Orthanc ended up on the x-list. Sorry to burst your bubble. Very Happy
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:45 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
NBarden wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
1 The Citadel of Saruman Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot Saruman and another Isengard minion to add 3.
“Westward he looked and saw...Orthanc, the pinnacle of Isengard, like a black spike.”

This is a semi-reprint of Tower of Orthanc, though hopefully a little more useful. Thumbs Up


Nah. Not really. Unless you turn out some sort of Isengard Forced March.

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NBarden wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
1News of Their Journey Isengard
Condition • Support Area
Shadow: Spot Saruman and reveal your hand to reveal the Free Peoples player’s hand.
Shadow: Exert Saruman to reveal a card at random from the Free Peoples player’s hand and place it on top of that player’s draw deck.
“‘But Saruman has many ways of learning news. Do you remember the birds?’”

But this has already been tried and The Palantir of Orthanc ended up on the x-list. Sorry to burst your bubble. Very Happy

Blast...good call.

Okay, I tweaked it a bit, and truth be told, I actually like the new and improved version better. How about you?
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
NBarden
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:47 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Better.
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Thranduil
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:55 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Both solid cards.

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:36 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
ditto thran.
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