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NBarden
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:43 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
However, I believe that the shadow player would have to play it on the FP player’s Gandalf/Radagast. Because your shadow cards are not active during your turn. So you can’t play a shadow card on your turn.

Which leads to the point, why would you play it on an opponents gandalf?
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:43 am
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If Gandalf gets exhausted, you could remove the staff later on and kill him.
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:48 pm
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Think So...you play a card that exhausts Gandalf then pull the staff? Interesting...but in the meantime, he gets the strength +2 Vitality +1 bonus...still think its a bad move.
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ingold55
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:08 pm
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macheteman wrote:
ok, another question. if my opponent plays a Saruman and it is the only minion left when the regroup phase comes, can i discard the staff to take my opponent’s Saruman into my hand?


interesting idea...
i don’t think this would work though, because it is your opponents card, and not yours...
correct me if i am wrong, but i thought your cards applied only to your cards, not a friends...(or enemies Wink )
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Cobra
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:36 pm
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Your cards can most definitely apply to other player’s cards; see Bib’s post on the first page of this thread! I wasn’t sure if there was a rule preventing you from taking other player’s cards into your hand, but apparently there’s not, which means the short answer to macheteman’s question is "yes."

Just to be clear, this would only apply to multi-player games, where you’re trying to take a Saruman belonging to a fellow Shadow player into your own hand. If you’re in a two player-game, this won’t work because your Staff of Saruman, Fallen Istar’s Stave will nNOLINKever be active at the same time as your opponent’s Saruman.
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ingold55
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:17 pm
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ok, thanks Cobra. Smile
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:49 pm
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Cobra wrote:
Your cards can most definitely apply to other player’s cards; see Bib’s post on the first page of this thread! I wasn’t sure if there was a rule preventing you from taking other player’s cards into your hand, but apparently there’s not, which means the short answer to macheteman’s question is "yes."

Just to be clear, this would only apply to multi-player games, where you’re trying to take a Saruman belonging to a fellow Shadow player into your own hand. If you’re in a two player-game, this won’t work because your Staff of Saruman, Fallen Istar’s Stave will nNOLINKever be active at the same time as your opponent’s Saruman.


To tell you the truth, i would rule it completely differently. With the same logic that i cannot discard a fellow shadow player’s corsair war galley to add tokens, i have no right to avtivate a text on a fellow shadow player’s artifact, whoever its bearer might be.

Of cource, the fpp’s capability of activating the staff is totally out of the question, as then he could just make the shadow player discard his opponent’s corsair war galley to get rid of them. I guess Bib’s answer on this was misinterpreted.
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:14 pm
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
If it is your staff played on an opponent’s Gandalf, you can use the staff’s text to take another shadow player’s Saruman into your hand.
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:27 am
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Geez, what is the likelihood of that happening?
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:47 am
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Slim to none since it relies on you playing a multi-player game with two players playing with Saruman and a mutual opponent playing Gandalf.
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