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NBarden
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:49 am
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Just make it spot Pippin, and that’s good.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:43 pm
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OK I think AC’s version is to harsh. But I will make it exert a hobbit.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:26 pm
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OK time for a new DC.

2 Tom Bombadillo Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot X ring-bound hobbits to heal X allies. Then if the fellowship is at a river site, you may remove a burden or threat.

or Di’s version
2 Tom Bombadillo Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot X Ring-bound Hobbits to heal X Shire allies. Then, if the fellowship is at a river site, spot a Ring-bound Hobbit or a non-Hobbit Shire ally to remove a burden or threat.

or another version

2 Tom Bombadillo Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot X ring-bound hobbits to heal X allies. Then if the fellowship is at a river site, you may spot a Shire ally remove a burden or threat.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:47 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
sickofpalantirs wrote:
OK time for a new DC.

Excellent. By the time I got the last one, you already had about 20 reviews. Razz

sickofpalantirs wrote:
2 Tom Bombadillo Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot X ring-bound hobbits to heal X allies. Then if the fellowship is at a river site, you may remove a burden or threat.

Well there’s only three Ring-bound Hobbits (Frodo, Sam, and Bilbo), so you’re looking at healing 3 allies at most. So let’s start with similar cards:

Friends of Old heals X Elven allies, where X is the twilight cost of a card you reveal from an opponent’s hand.

Guarded Fastness discards 2 cards from hand to heal ALL Rohan allies. Pretty powerful.

Both of those cards only cost 1. So for the healing of allies, the only thing I would recommend is maybe limiting it to Shire allies. Not sure about it, but I’d lean more towards doing it than not doing it. Other than that, though, it seems balanced so far.

Of course, Tom Bombadillo does more than heal allies. It also removes a burden or a threat if you’re at a river. Again, let’s look at similar examples:

Elf-song costs 1 and spots an Elf to remove a burden.

Ease the Burden costs 2 and exerts a Gandalf Wizard to remove a burden...or 2 burdens if the fellowship is at a specific site (dwellings, in this case).

Nine-fingered Frodo and the Ring of Doom costs 0 and exerts a Shire character to remove a burden or two threats.

The end analysis? I think that, since this costs 2 and only removes 1 burden or 1 threat as well as doing some ally healing, it’s balanced.

However, I think there’s a flaw here. Right now, there’s no cultural enforcement for the second ability. You can choose to ignore the healing all together (and thus ignore spotting any Hobbits) and just turn this into a burden/threat remover for any culture.

So, I’d recommend doing this:

2 Tom Bombadillo Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot X Ring-bound Hobbits to heal X Shire allies. Then, if the fellowship is at a river site, spot a Ring-bound Hobbit or a non-Hobbit Shire ally to remove a burden or threat.

Now both abilities require at least one Ring-bound Hobbit. I suppose you could drop "Ring-bound" from the second one and just spot any ol’ Hobbit, but I get the impression that’s not what you intended.

Nutshell: this is a good card, one that certainly find its way into many Shire decks thanks to its versatility. It just needs a couple little tweaks. You certainly don’t have to do what I recommended, but I would strongly encourage at least limiting it to Shire allies and adding some type of cultural enforcement for the burden/threat removal.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:03 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
could i just make the second ability spot a shire ally? just to make sure they have to use the first?
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:15 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
DáinIronfoot wrote:

2 Tom Bombadillo Shire
Event • Fellowship
Spot X Ring-bound Hobbits to heal X Shire allies. Then, if the fellowship is at a river site, spot a Ring-bound Hobbit or a non-Hobbit Shire ally to remove a burden or threat.

Now both abilities require at least one Ring-bound Hobbit. I suppose you could drop "Ring-bound" from the second one and just spot any ol’ Hobbit, but I get the impression that’s not what you intended.

Nutshell: this is a good card, one that certainly find its way into many Shire decks thanks to its versatility. It just needs a couple little tweaks. You certainly don’t have to do what I recommended, but I would strongly encourage at least limiting it to Shire allies and adding some type of cultural enforcement for the burden/threat removal.


Um...if you’re healing the allies with ring-bound hobbits, obviously you can spot one, so you might as well just put remove a burden. I doubt people are gonna splash this card in for burden removal, better ways to do it.

I do like DI’s ideas...though.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:12 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
OK I have several different version of the card for you to decide which is best, but its time for a new DC

2 •Grima, Servent of Isengard Isengard
Minion • Man
Strength • 4
Vitality • 3
Site Number • 3
Each time you play an Isengard Man (including Grima), you may exert a Rohan companion.
Maneuver: Exert Grima to take an Isengard condition from your discard pile into hand.

This little guy is supposed to work with isengard men, though the first ability is a little specific, the second one has some uses with isengard men conditions.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:29 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
sickofpalantirs wrote:
2 Grima, Servent of isengard Isengard
strength • 4
Vitality • 3
Site number • 3
Each time you play an Isengard man you may exert a Rohan companion.
Maneuver:Exert grima to take an Isengard condition from your discard pile into hand.

Don’t forget Minion • Man. Smile On that note, you probably need to specify whether his first ability works for him by doing one of the following:

Each time you play an Isengard man (including Grima), you may exert a Rohan companion.

Each time you play another Isengard man, you may exert a Rohan companion.

As written right now, it’s kind of fuzzy.

Also, make sure to capitalize his name and add []s around "Isengard" in his second ability. And maybe limit it to once per phase.

I like him, though. Certainly very useful.
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bobtheorc
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:37 pm
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
What type of Isengard conditions are discarded to do stuff?
Just wondering.
Right now I can only think of stuff like Saruman’s ambition
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NBarden
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:40 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
sickofpalantirs wrote:
2 Grima, Servent of Isengard Isengard
strength • 4
Vitality • 3
Site number • 3
Each time you play an Isengard man you may exert a Rohan companion.
Maneuver:Exert Grima to take an Isengard condition from your discard pile into hand.


Best kind of card, a generic card with specific culture targeting. I like it. Although I would use it for its maneuver ability, its first ability is helpful for anti-Rohan. I made a few typo changes to the card, but other than that, good.
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