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BattleWarg
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:48 pm
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Makes sense. I was just thinking that the starting fellowship was a special case (something like, you can’t add twilight before the game starts and you can put 4 twilight worth of companions into play. So for Elrohir/Elladan, you use up 3 of that to play the first, and the remaining 1 for the other.)

Which would be interesting with toil companions...
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Merrick_Hale
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:20 pm
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
From the Comprehensive Rules 4.0

Twilight Cost

"Cards already in play that affect another card’s twilight cost have that effect only when the card to be modified is coming into play."

So the twilight cost of the card immediately goes back to the printed value once it enters play. So per BattleWarg’s example you would need to remove three tokens to discard it.
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:42 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
Merrick_Hale wrote:
From the Comprehensive Rules 4.0

Twilight Cost

"Cards already in play that affect another card’s twilight cost have that effect only when the card to be modified is coming into play."

So the twilight cost of the card immediately goes back to the printed value once it enters play. So per BattleWarg’s example you would need to remove three tokens to discard it.

Hey, thanks for that! I’ve been searching for a reason Elladan-Elrohir didn’t cost just 2. I wasn’t buying that stuff about "imaginary twilight pool". So, not related to this question, but thanks for that!
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:56 am
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bobtheorc
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:20 am
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Yeah remember with Elladan-Elrohir one of them is played first for 3 then the other is played for 1 = 4.

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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:52 pm
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Not if you use Narsil, Forged by Telchar or Hope Renewed or Derufin to get rid of Grond first. Twisted Evil
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:56 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Or Nimble Attack. With all the threats you’re running, might be worth it.

1 Nimble Attack Gondor
Event • Fellowship or Skirmish
Spot 2 Gondor companions and add a threat to discard a shadow possession.
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This is going to become a staple of Gondor wraiths. And IB.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:38 pm
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that is a nice card, but shadow possession aren’t always major killers its more of a meta-card IMO. corsairs, grond sure but vs. forestguls?
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:18 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
sickofpalantirs wrote:
that is a nice card, but shadow possession aren’t always major killers its more of a meta-card IMO. corsairs, grond sure but vs. forestguls?

You’re forgetting the new Men possession decktype. It’s incredibly good, now that we’ve got Easterling Dispatcher. I predict that Nimble Attack and similar cards like Throne of Minas Tirith will cause a rise in the Gondor culture with this new decktype on the loose.
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bobtheorc
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:07 am
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
Good point.
That Easterling Dispatcher is way to good with support area possessions.
SO we might see the rise of the anti-shadow possession strategy.
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