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lem0nhead

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:59 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

DáinIronfoot wrote:

•Gandalf, Grey Wanderer Gandalf

Companion • Wizard
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Fellowship: Play a Hobbit and add

to heal Gandalf.
Skirmish: Exert Gandalf and a Dwarf to make Gandalf damage +1.
Response: If a Man or Elf (except the Ring-bearer) is about to take a wound, exert Gandalf to prevent that wound.
“Tales and adventures sprouted up all over the place wherever he went, in the most extraordinary fashion.”

Ok this gandalf rocks Dain, one slight tweak id say "and add

" when exerting to prevent the wound.

I also strongly considered Friend and Counsellor as the subtitle, so if you review, could I kindly ask you to vote for your favorite subtitle, too? Angel

Thanks!

Friend and Counsellor!

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:29 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Okay, there’s one subtitle vote...anyone else? Smile

Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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WeyounsLastClone

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:49 am

Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 175 Location: The Netherlands

I like the card, and would also go for ’Friend and Councellor’. Maybe the Dwarf ability could be a bit more powerful. Have it spot a Dwarf, and not exert it, maybe.

Thranduil

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:41 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

DáinIronfoot wrote:

Okay, before I go to bed, here’s a fun Gandalf I whipped up as a second version for the set. Let me know what you think! Smile

•Gandalf, Friend and Counsellor Gandalf

Companion • Wizard
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Fellowship: Play a Hobbit and add

to heal Gandalf.
Skirmish: Exert Gandalf and a Dwarf to make Gandalf damage +1.
Response: If a Man or Elf (except the Ring-bearer) is about to take a wound, exert Gandalf to prevent that wound.
“Tales and adventures sprouted up all over the place wherever he went, in the most extraordinary fashion.”

I also strongly considered Grey Wanderer as the subtitle, so if you review, could I kindly ask you to vote for your favorite subtitle, too? Angel

Thanks!

Great Gandalf! Thumbs Up

WLC’s right, the dwarf ability needs to be better. Maybe it should say ’exert a Dwarf to make Gandalf...’? And friend and counsellor is a much better subtitle for this guy.

Thranduil

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:50 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Thranduil wrote:

DáinIronfoot wrote:

•Gandalf, Friend and Counsellor Gandalf

Companion • Wizard
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Fellowship: Play a Hobbit and add

WLC’s right, the dwarf ability needs to be better. Maybe it should say ’exert a Dwarf to make Gandalf...’? And friend and counsellor is a much better subtitle for this guy.

I opted to exert Gandalf and spot a Dwarf, as WLC suggested. Otherwise, you could toss Gandalf in with a bunch of Dwarves and easily get him up to something like damage +10, which would be a bit crazy. Razz

I’m going to add the card to the Lasting Alliances cardlist now, but if you have any more changes to recommend, let me know and I’ll certainly still make them. Smile

And any other suggestions? It’s a BIG set: there’s got to be some holes in it SOMEWHERE.

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:25 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

DáinIronfoot wrote:

Okay, before I go to bed, here’s a fun Gandalf I whipped up as a second version for the set. Let me know what you think! Smile

•Gandalf, Friend and Counsellor Gandalf

Companion • Wizard
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Signet: Gandalf
Fellowship: Play a Hobbit and add

to heal Gandalf.
Skirmish: Exert Gandalf and spot a Dwarf to make Gandalf damage +1.
Response: If a Man or Elf (except the Ring-bearer) is about to take a wound, exert Gandalf to prevent that wound.
“Tales and adventures sprouted up all over the place wherever he went, in the most extraordinary fashion.”

hum...quite interesting. works for me

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:05 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Potential gaps, in my mind:

- Cards tying Gandalf

Men and Dwarves together. There’s a few, but do you think I should create a couple more?

- Cards tying Elves and Dwarves together. I’d like at least a couple, but I don’t think I have any strong ones right now.

- Shire

in general didn’t have quite as many cards as I thought I’d come up with. Do you see any strategies I could/should expand a little there?

- Generally, I don’t have a lot of site control/liberation. Should I add some more, and if so, with which culture(s)?

- I have several Rohan

cards that work with Gondor

, but not many Gondor

cards that work with Rohan

. Should I add a couple?

- Do you think the Spiders and other Green

minions have enough right now, or should I work on them a little more?

There, that should help narrow things down for you as you search the card lists. (IF you search the card lists. Razz

)

Also, I know several people like the capturing/resucing mechanic I’ve added, but others hate it and think it’s badly overpowered, at least when FP characters are captured. So what if I changed it so that, at the end of each turn, you have to add/remove the cost of a captured character to keep it captured, and otherwise you have to return it to its owner’s discard pile? This would make it all but impossible to hold on to captured minions like Sauron and tough to keep captured companions like Aragorn and Gandalf.

If you don’t like that idea either, do you have a suggestion for how I CAN make the mechanic better balanced?

Here’s the mechanic as it works currently, for those who have forgotten:

Capturing is a new concept in my sets, in which captured characters are placed in your support area. Captured characters cannot be used by their owner, and the player who captured them can get some benefits from them via other cards. They can only become "un-captured" when their owner rescues them somehow. Basically rescuing (and capturing) works much the same way as site liberation (and control). That’s probably the easiest way of putting it.

Players who capture an opponent’s characters can do all manner of nasty things. They can spot them to add (or remove, if you’re a FP player with captured minions) twilight, threats, and burdens. They can have characters and other cards with text that triggers off captured characters (like "while you can spot a captured character in your support area, this minion is fierce"). They can exert or wound them, giving them a slow or quick death while you watch, helpless to do anything about it. And of course, while one of your unique characters is captured, you can’t play another version in their place, so it’s the equivalent of them being in the dead pile...without you potentially being able to get to them in the dead pile. Yuck.

The one exception? Because it would obviously break the game, you can’t capture the Ring-bearer, much like you can’t discard the Ring-bearer. Sorry, but it ain’t THAT easy, Shadow players. Razz However, you CAN try and capture the bulk of his fellowship, or at least a couple key characters in it. Likewise, FP players can try and capture some of the nastier minions out there and keep them from causing trouble. Heck, capture the Witch-King or Sauron and laugh as they stew in your support area. Twisted Evil

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:48 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

yes I think capturing is overpowered. I think they should only be captured for 1 complete skirmish phase.

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:05 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

I think you should either have the option of holding onto captured characters (at a cost) from turn to turn, OR at least have it last one full turn...perhaps until the start of the next turn’s phase that you capture the character in. For example, if you capture a companion in the maneuver phase, you would hold him until the next turn’s maneuver phase. Make sense?

Personally, though, I think paying a cost at the end of each turn to hold onto a captured character (and if you’re unwilling or unable to pay that cost, returning that character to its owner’s discard pile {or somewhere else, like their deck or hand or perhaps even straight back into play}) would make it MUCH more balanced.

Thoughts? Come on, guys...several of you have complained about capturing before. Help me fix it. I’m listening.

Thranduil

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:41 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

I like the idea of an ’upkeep’ (thank you Foresight!) for captured cards, but you’d have a hard time making it totally universal. Can Free Peoples players capture minions? That makes it even harder, because then twilight doesn’t work - for the free peoples player to add twilight is never an issue.

Should you have a cost built in to the cards that capture people?

Thranduil

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