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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:30 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Personally, I still think both Gandalfs are a little weak. I know you’re loathe to put more than one ability on most companions, which I can certainly respect, but in this case I think you need to break with the norm.
What if I increased their resistance and/or strength?
To finish off Gandalf: (i’m pretty sure I’ve spoiled some of these on another thread, but never mind)
 Lightning 
Event • Skirmish
Spell.
Spot a wizard to wound a minion assigned to an unbound companion (or wound it twice if it has less strength than that wizard).
... when the goblins came to grab him, there was a terrific flash like lightning in the cave, a smell of gunpowder, and several of them fell dead.
H1 U 110
• Glamdring, Blade of Gondolin
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be Gandalf.
He is damage +1
Regroup: Play this possession from your hand or discard pile.
The goblins just called it ’Beater’ and hated it even more than Biter...
H1 R 104
• Gandalf’s Staff, Focus of Light
Artifact • Staff
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each time Gandalf is discarded, this artifact becomes a strength 6 vitality 3 resistance 4 wizard companion that cannot bear other cards until the end of the regroup phase. If this card is killed, place it in the discard pile.
Regroup: Spot Gandalf to make this card lose all tokens on it, and it is now borne by Gandalf.
H1 R 103
Next time it will be some lovely eagles.
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:31 pm |
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Thranduil wrote:
Invisibility
Event • Skirmish
Spell.
If a Wizard is not exhausted, discard him.
Where was Gandalf?
H1 U 109
Word it discard a non-exhausted Gandalf Wizard.
 Wizard’s Power
Event • Regroup
Spell.
Play a Wizard from your discard pile to make, until the end of the turn, each minion skirmishing a companion strength -2.
Just at that moment all the lights in the cavern went out, and the great fire went off poof! into a tower of blue glowing smoke...
H1 U 124
worded bad again it should be Play a gandalf wizard from your discard pile to make each minion skirmishing a companion strength -2 until the end of the turn. one Q though. since when do minions skirmish companions in the regroup?
Courage
Event • Regroup
Play a Wizard from your discard pile to discard each Shadow condition.
’Follow me quick,’ said a voice fierce and quiet...
H1 R 93
cool!
 • Radagast, Good Cousin
Companion • Wizard
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 7
Toil 2.
Radagast is not a non-flyer.
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot 3 companions to take a event into hand from your discard pile. Then choose a Shadow player that may draw a card.
’... not a bad fellow as wizards go.’
H1 R 120
is not a non-flyer WTH? make it he may be spotted as a flyer |
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![]() Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:34 pm |
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SoP, with your wording of Wizard’s power, the snapshot rule ruins it. It’s got to make, until the end of the turn, each skirmishing minion worse, rather than make each skirmishing minion worse (as they won’t be skirmishing in the regroup).
What do people think about Radagast?
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![]() Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:42 pm |
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OK I am confused. what is the snapshot rule, and how does it work in regroup(the card)
Thranduil wrote:
Lightning
Event • Skirmish
Spell.
Spot a wizard to wound a minion (or wound it twice if it has less strength than that wizard).
... when the goblins came to grab him, there was a terrific flash like lightning in the cave, a smell of gunpowder, and several of them fell dead.
H1 U 110
make it skirmishing an unbound companion
• Glamdring, Beater
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be Gandalf.
He is damage +1
Regroup: Play this possession from your hand or discard pile.
The goblins just called it ’Beater’ and hated it even more than Biter...
H1 R 104
sure
• Gandalf’s Staff, Focus of Light
Artifact • Staff
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each time Gandalf is discarded, this artifact becomes a strength 6 vitality 3 resistance 4 wizard companion that cannot bear other cards until the end of the regroup phase. If this card is killed, place it in the discard pile.
Regroup: Spot Gandalf to make this card lose all tokens on it, and it is now borne by Gandalf.
H1 R 103
weird how would the rule of 9 work with this?
Next time it will be some lovely eagles.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:55 pm |
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Thranduil wrote: Invisibility
Event • Skirmish
Spell.
If a Wizard is not exhausted, discard him.
Where was Gandalf?
H1 U 109
Okay....
Thranduil wrote: Wizard’s Power
Event • Regroup
Spell.
Play a Wizard from your discard pile to make, until the end of the turn, each minion skirmishing a companion strength -2.
Just at that moment all the lights in the cavern went out, and the great fire went off poof! into a tower of blue glowing smoke...
H1 U 124
I’d put "until the end of the turn" last. Much cleaner that way.
Thranduil wrote: Courage
Event • Regroup
Play a Wizard from your discard pile to discard each Shadow condition.
’Follow me quick,’ said a voice fierce and quiet...
H1 R 93
Okay, I’m starting to see the theme here. Not bad, not bad.
Thranduil wrote: • Radagast, Good Cousin
Companion • Wizard
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 7
Toil 2.
Radagast is not a non-flyer.
Each time the fellowship moves, you may spot 3 companions to take a event into hand from your discard pile. Then choose a Shadow player that may draw a card.
’... not a bad fellow as wizards go.’
H1 R 120
I don’t understand the "non-flyer" thing. Double negatives always hurt my head. The other ability is pretty nifty, though.
Thranduil wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: Personally, I still think both Gandalfs are a little weak. I know you’re loathe to put more than one ability on most companions, which I can certainly respect, but in this case I think you need to break with the norm.
What if I increased their resistance and/or strength?
That would work, I think, at least for Friendly Stranger: up his strength to 8 and he’s good. The other...I dunno. Maybe some minor ability when moving to or from certain sites.
Thranduil wrote: Lightning
Event • Skirmish
Spell.
Spot a wizard to wound a minion (or wound it twice if it has less strength than that wizard).
... when the goblins came to grab him, there was a terrific flash like lightning in the cave, a smell of gunpowder, and several of them fell dead.
H1 U 110
I agree with SoP’s suggestion.
Thranduil wrote: • Glamdring, Beater
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be Gandalf.
He is damage +1
Regroup: Play this possession from your hand or discard pile.
The goblins just called it ’Beater’ and hated it even more than Biter...
H1 R 104
It works, but the title is, most unfortunately, way too close to Glamdring, Orc Beater. (I had the subtitle "Beater" and had to try and come up with something else myself.)
Thranduil wrote: • Gandalf’s Staff, Focus of Light
Artifact • Staff
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each time Gandalf is discarded, this artifact becomes a strength 6 vitality 3 resistance 4 wizard companion that cannot bear other cards until the end of the regroup phase. If this card is killed, place it in the discard pile.
Regroup: Spot Gandalf to make this card lose all tokens on it, and it is now borne by Gandalf.
H1 R 103
Very, very odd, but it works, I think. |
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![]() Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:56 pm |
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sickofpalantirs wrote: OK I am confused. what is the snapshot rule, and how does it work in regroup(the card)
Snapshot rule is that cards take a ’picture’ of the game when the card is played.
With wizard’s power, if it said ’... to make each minion skirmishing a companion strength -2 until the end of the turn’ it would do nothing, because the snapshot is in the regroup phase when there are no minions skirmishing companions. (which is why your wording doesn’t work, Dain)
Similarly, if it said ’... to make each minion strength -2 until the end of the turn’ it would only apply to minions ’in the picture’ when the card was played, not minions that are played in the next site.
That’s the snapshot rule. With my wording, it should work so that all minions, even the ones they play next shadow phase, will be worse.
sickofpalantirs wrote: weird how would the rule of 9 work with this?
It’ll be fine, because you have to discard a companion to turn it into a companion.
Made some changes. How do they look now?
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Changed the subtitle of Glamdring.
Am I getting any more on this, or should I continue?
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![]() Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:14 am |
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Thranduil wrote:
Lightning
Event • Skirmish
Spell.
Spot a wizard to wound a minion assigned to an unbound companion (or wound it twice if it has less strength than that wizard).
... when the goblins came to grab him, there was a terrific flash like lightning in the cave, a smell of gunpowder, and several of them fell dead.
H1 U 110
Bit powerful, might make it cost  . Cool though.
• Glamdring, Blade of Gondolin
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Bearer must be Gandalf.
He is damage +1
Regroup: Play this possession from your hand or discard pile.
The goblins just called it ’Beater’ and hated it even more than Biter...
H1 R 104
Ok.... fair enough with your discard gandalf theme.
• Gandalf’s Staff, Focus of Light
Artifact • Staff
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Gandalf.
Each time Gandalf is discarded, this artifact becomes a strength 6 vitality 3 resistance 4 wizard companion that cannot bear other cards until the end of the regroup phase. If this card is killed, place it in the discard pile.
Regroup: Spot Gandalf to make this card lose all tokens on it, and it is now borne by Gandalf.
H1 R 103
You really like screwing with the rules dont you!? Wow. Erm... Well if i ignore the potential rules mindfield youre creating its sound enough. Though a fighting stick is kinda a scary thought.
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lem0nhead wrote: You really like screwing with the rules dont you!? Wow. Erm... Well if i ignore the potential rules mindfield youre creating its sound enough. Though a fighting stick is kinda a scary thought.
Screwing with rules is what I do best. Wait until you see what I do with sites in the Battle of the Five Armies... 
As promised, some flying things now, to tie in with the Wizards, remembering this keyword:
Flyer (This character can only take 1 wound per phase, regardless of its source.)
 Looking Ahead
Event • Maneuver
Discard a Wizard or Eagle.
’Where did you go, if I may ask?’
H1 C 113
Pressing Business
Event • Skirmish
If a Wizard or Eagle is not assigned to a skirmish, discard them.
’It is no use arguing, I am already late through bothering with you people.’
H1 C 119
Looking Behind
Event • Regroup
Play a Wizard (or add and play an Eagle) from your discard pile to discard up to 2 minions.
It was the wizard’s voice that had kept the trolls bickering and quarrelling, until the light came and made an end of them.
H1 C 114
Nick of Time
Event • Regroup
Choose one: play a Wizard from your discard pile to heal each companion; or play an Eagle from your discard pile and add to heal each companion.
It was just then that Gandalf came back.
H1 U 116
I’ve just realised I haven’t used the keyword I just reminded you of! Oh well, I’ll add this one:
Eagle Warrior
Companion • Eagle
Str: 5
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Flyer.
While you can spot 3 companions in your discard pile, this companion is strength +3.
Eagles are not kindly birds.
H1 C 97
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Last edited by Thranduil on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:06 pm; edited 3 times in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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Thranduil wrote:
Looking Ahead
Event • Maneuver
Discard a Wizard or Eagle.
’Where did you go, if I may ask?’
H1 C 113
Fair enough but if the entire tactic of this culture is around discarding it seems a little too easy to just make a card costing to discard them.
Pressing Business
Event • Skirmish
If a Wizard or Eagle is not assigned to a skirmish, discard them.
’It is no use arguing, I am already late through bothering with you people.’
H1 C 119
See above.
Looking Behind
Event • Regroup
Play a Wizard (or add and play an Eagle) from your discard pile to discard up to 2 minions.
It was the wizard’s voice that had kept the trolls bickering and quarrelling, until the light came and made an end of them.
H1 C 114
Make it cost. Too cheap to recycle a companion and discard minions.
Nick of Time
Event • Regroup
Choose one: play a Wizard from your discard pile to heal each companion; or play an Eagle from your discard pile and add to heal each companion.
It was just then that Gandalf came back.
H1 U 116
Same comment again.
Eagle Warrior
Companion • Eagle
Str: 5
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Flyer.
While you can spot 3 companions in your discard pile, this companion is strength +3.
Eagles are not kindly birds.
H1 C 97
I like this guy, very cool.
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